TOPIC: PMMA: swelling after sex

While I\'ve heard of this phenomena (swelling after sex) I haven\'t experienced it, even with 3 rounds.

For those who do, I\'m not sure it matters much. There have been no reports of prolonged swelling/inflammation causing issues. Even people who have dramatic reactions (e.g. Olafspo) had the issues self resolve with time.

There are many, many hardcore pumpers who have created incredible localized inflammation on a routine basis for decades, and they never \"triggered\" cancer.

For peeps who want to post up cancer links, please be mindful that such actions tend to ignite \"worst case scenario\" speculation and neuroticisms, which are much more common maladies than PMMA-induced peen cancer.

I had 6 rounds, starting 5 years ago and still have swelling after sexy time

Also I guess this is more prominent with uncircumcised units as the skin will move around

manitou, the point is not about PMMA induced cancer. It is about frequent swelling (inflammation fighting what?) that increases the chances of DNA damage that can trigger neoplasia. I think, without any known statistic, to lay all the cards on the table for a more informed assessment of the risks we will take. How long did it take to link cancer to cigarettes ...

Manitou, as jogift points out, the concern here isn\'t necessarily cancer, it\'s swelling. As already pointed out, post-sex systemic swelling of the penis seems to be a common result of having PMMA in the penis. Swelling comes with its own set of issues. Until we have a better understanding of the swelling issues, there are two that currently disqualify PMMA as a viable option for me:
1. Recovery interfering with multiple sessions
2. Long-term health impact

@chest: I\'ll tell you man, coming from a guy that looked PMMA up and down for over 3 years...the amount of PMMA that actually gets injected into you is so so little. At least for me (1 round of 10%). Long term sides seem really unlikely.

I think swelling is due to the simple fact cartilage is now in the penis and It causes somewhat of an obstruction and therefore fluid builds. My swelling has a lot of fluid but literally no irritation or redness whatsoever. Looks nothing like an injury or post op swelling, just looks like fluid that needs longer to escape than usual.

I never noticed it before, but I guess I have a little as well - but it is not red, painful, tender or anything other than a little fuller - I never would have thought of it was swelling had I not seen this thread. Usually, if I have swelling I associate it with an injury - and some pain. This is no way like that. My dermal graft used to do the same thing but I assumed it was just blood still in the graft.

Sometimes though it is the opposite where my Dick tightens up as all the blood has gone out of it when I finish, like my Dick needs a rest which is sort of common - so it is not every time.

I would be curious to know as well if there is a correlation to swelling and amount of PMMA a person has. I have one more round than Mike but relatively modest to what some guys on here have. Many years ago I used to pump regularly and that was much more intense than this - it never occurred to me in a million years that continuous pumping would lead to cancer. I have read articles about chronic inflammation and certain foods being bad for the body - like sugar for example. I am ignorant if all causes of inflammation are the same or if it doesn\'t matter - just that it is inflamed. I think it would be a huge leap to think that this is leading to cancer.

By the way, I have also had HA and that did the same thing and that didn\'t phase me either - maybe any PE does the same thing. I would bet alloderm and Belladerm do the same as the fat graft did and that is similar.

I conjecture that during sex, the dermis moves (however slightly) over the \"cartilage\" as mike81 puts it and the irritation from this results in inflammation (swelling). The phenomenon is affected by the fluidity or slipperiness of the vagina, the grip (tightness) and the duration of the act.

PE aside, continually being inflamed in a given area is hazardous! mike 81 started a thread on something never touched on before, despite so many reports. Personally, this puts a blight on the objectivity and transparency of the forum - just as till now, there is still no clear answer about the rigidity or firmness of erections after filler procedures. I have to wonder why.

I have not yet put off PMMA, but as chester puts it \"recovery interfering with multiple sessions\" is a very serious concern (soreness or not) added to the swelling itself that\'s causing this.

I hope we\'ll have many more inputs on this ...

jogift wrote: mike 81 started a thread on something never touched on before, despite so many reports. Personally, this puts a blight on the objectivity and transparency of the forum - just as till now, there is still no clear answer about the rigidity or firmness of erections after filler procedures.

You are right to be skeptical of procedures and outcomes. In fact, it is welcomed. Skepticism can bring about some of the best discussions and exploration.

However, I take deference when you question the objectivity and transparency of this forum.

I personally have received PMMA and do not experience swelling. And I answered with my personal experience regarding rigidity/firmness of erections in other threads. Also, much of what happens with any filler is dependent on the individual\'s biological response.

So, in many cases there is not going to be a clear answer. For example, in my round 2 I experienced zero growth. There is no answer why. Some guys get nodules and poor aesthetics, while others sail through with no issues.

www.cancerquest.org/cancer-biology/immun...o19BySHRoC1hrw_wcB#7

Go down to the section \"inflammation and cancer\" ...

manitou, the point is not about PMMA induced cancer. It is about frequent swelling (inflammation fighting what?) that increases the chances of DNA damage that can trigger neoplasia. I think, without any known statistic, to lay all the cards on the table for a more informed assessment of the risks we will take. How long did it take to link cancer to cigarettes ...

@jogift, I was responding to you linking out to cancer articles. Glad to hear the concern isn\'t about cancer....but I\'m hoping you can see where that wasn\'t quite obvious to me, as even in your last quote, you say it\'s not about cancer, and then say \"how long did it take to link cancer to cigarettes...\"

There is a plethora of research regarding the long-term affects of PMMA in the human body, in general (not in the penis - in the body). Bone cement, ocular implants...places that are sensitive to the body. Places that should be able to stimulate immune response.

There\'s a lot that we don\'t know about this process...or about dermal fillers in general. My personal experience, after 3 rounds, is no post-sex swelling/inflammation, and no detriment to firmness of erections.

And I\'ll echo Briceb regarding objectivity and transparency. Just because there are experiences that counter a dissenting perspective doesn\'t mean that\'s a violation in objectivity. Just throwing my personal, first-hand experience with PMMA in the ring, feel free to disregard if you want, but no need to imply that I or anyone else has some need to \"convert\" people to PMMA. In fact, I would suggest against it for most people.

When I was calling in Frankfurt he told me also that with HA they have proofed that the immunesystem was fighting and thats the reason why they dont do it anymore.
This clinic did only HA and now they do nothing....other clinics told me the same but they offered FFT so i thought its marketing trick.
I know also other doctors who dont put HA into the penis as the also saying that the immune system is always fighting against it.

The human immune system is \"always\" fighting something, of course. PMMA has been used in the human facial tissue (mostly for AIDS victims if I recall correctly) for over ten years, and as far as I have read there are not issues with any cancer or immune system issues with PMMA. I do understand that we still do not have accurate long term data about PMMA in the face and more recently in the penis, but if you look at the \"overall\" sense of the data we have, so far, it looks positive.

I hope it stays positive for all the PMMA patients who have made the commitment to use it...Good luck t us all

I hope it all stays positive, as well. However, PMMA in the face, and even in the shoulders and arms (as with bodybuilding), will generate nowhere near the friction as it will in the penis. It is the act of sex that is causing the inflammation, not the PMMA itself. It is the constant, long-term activation of the PMMA within the body that is causing this ongoing inflammation. My concern is the long-term impact of systematic inflammation in the body. Of this we have no knowledge.

We do have SOME knowledge. There are people who have had it for a few years and so far have not reported, here anyway, any serious health issues. Long term, we do not know. What is long term BTW, 5 years, 10, 15, 20? What is a verified medical \"long term\" period for PMMA specifically? any one knows?

I\'d say there is a risk, but at this point who\'s to say either way. Let\'s enjoy our plastic beaded dicks as long as we can without worrying too much about what if? It is too late for people who have had PMMA...

I venture to say that LA air and traffic have much worse health issues than PMMA in my groin, trust me, I just got back from there and the air quality...well, there is no air quality! LOL......

Mustang, I definitely agree about not worrying about what-ifs if you\'ve already had PMMA. My concern is that we absolutely do not have any knowledge of what long-term systemic PMMA inflammation does to the body. By long-term I refer to any duration of time that takes the patient to the end of his natural life cycle, as you would expect with any permanent procedure. I raised the concern, not to alarm current implantees, but as a valid concern for those of us who are considering PMMA.