TOPIC: What is your gut feeling about pmma in the long term

@manitou: Totally agree.

@jogift: When I die what the funeral director says or doesn\'t say is not a concern of mine.

PMMA has been used in contact lenses since the 1950\'s: www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk3/1984/8409/840905.PDF

First ever lens used in 1949, after it was observed that PMMA splinters from WW2 side windows were tolerated better by pilots than shards from standard glass - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poly(methyl_methac...ologies_and_implants

First used as bone cement in 1958 - www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3880950/

PMMA has a long history of in vivo applications.

Similar to other exogenous foreign substances used in medical applications, the majority of bodies tolerate it well, while a minority don\'t. And as seen in penile applications, the technique used in application tends to greatly impact the result (ref that bone cement article above, and associated cardiovascular impact in certain instances where a certain technique was used).

As it applies to specific penile application, it\'s a new frontier. As applies to human biological tolerance, old frontier.

My 2 cents: Even the FDA considers PMMA \"biocompatible\" - www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/ProductsandMe...llers/ucm2007470.htm

While there are no guarantees in life, PMMA doesn\'t seem to be a particularly dangerous roll of the dice (given a half-century+ of use).

If the coroners or these guys in the funeral parlours shoot their mouths when I\'m dead, the chicks I fucked and others would start thinking that now there are guys with robo-dicks! Apart from that, it matters little to me about long term, so long as there is no infection or appearance of disease. Life is to be taken by the day - a blood clot or other something could end a life long before PMMA is known to explode in the Dick or pull out your hair ...

I understand fm not many people can take such large Girth, and it makes sex very difficult but i hope it works out for you. I hope can i someday be thick like that, but the key is to know when to quit.

@FatMike,

I too enjoyed reading your thread, and appreciate your writing style.

I would encourage you to embrace what you got man. Be proud.

I\'ve noticed in several threads that some guys are very fearful of being \"called out\". On what? Having PMMA? Silicone? Pfft. Do women care if they get called out on fake tits? Are men totally turned off by fake tits? Some are, but not many. And for the ones that are, if a woman has a bad experience with a guy that \"calls her out\", she doesn\'t second guess herself or run to the doc to get \'em cut out. She says \"NEXT\" and moves on.

In fact, in the breast enhancement world, they order them so they stick out and defy gravity. They are obviously not real. And they\'re proud of them (and I would agree they should be).

Surgical enhancement means it is supposed to look enhanced. Enhanced = more than natural. I.e., unnatural.

You worked hard for your size @FatMike. The ED stuff sucks, but that isn\'t related to your size or PMMA. Let the haters hate. Just my personal opinion.

@FatMike:

I\'m sorry for your troubles dude but ....

I\'d say embrace your size and be proud. Manitou said it right. Women have surgeries all the time and they don\'t hesitate or feel bad. It\'s what they want and they go for it. Haters are going to hate. Don\'t let them get you down. You\'re the man!

I read some \'hate\' on my Girth size. I just laugh at it. Why? Because my wife and I are happy with my Girth. How many dudes are happily married for almost 40 years? Not many. We\'re almost there. It\'s not a big deal. I do what makes me happy.

There\'s an old expression \"Hating someone is like taking rat poison and expecting the other person to get sick.\"

Hate away haters.... LOL

You\'re a great guy FatMike! Don\'t forget that.

neverendingjourney

what about silkon by DR C for making the gland bigger. I feel like i have a small gland as well. mine is only 1.75\" wide at the flare. I\'m trying to figure out my best path with PMMA and having a small gland. I\'m not sure what to do.

as far as your ED goes. are you on testosterone? what about your diet and cardio? do you drink or smoke? do you lift weights? do you eat lots of veggies? do you eat processed foods?

Wow we sound to have the exact same issues down to a T. I\'m also the same age as you and didn\'t start getting ED until after all the PMMA. I am also like 4.5ish at the glans and 7ish mid shaft. As you, I did not want to get this big. But my first procedure was a disaster(check my picture history) and I needed more and more procedure to even it out. I also did the silicone smoothing procedure. It didn\'t help all that much and my result is far from smooth but better than before. I have some hard ball like things in many places and some hard chunks that are extremely papable.

I fully regret my decision having this done the way I did. My penis looks stupid and now my erections are weaker then a 70 year old. I would do it again, however. But just 10% and small sessions. I suggest that to anyone that asks. I also have a loose Circumcision so my tiny glans disappear in the hotdog bun of PMMA when Flaccid.

Hopefully, we can figure this out. I have even contemplated getting it removed since darkstaff did it successfully. I\'m just too scared it could end up looking worse and with skinny Girth. My next plan is to get Iodine and DMSO and try to make the hard chunks soften up. I read some reports that it can help with ED. I also take every supplement that has been known to help ED. Not helping much. But combined with viagra, I can get 80% Erection that allows me to have sex.

I\'m still looking into glans enlargement using HA but want to wait until I see more results. Anyways good luck, lets keep posted if we find any improvements. Cheers

@Mustang202While I\'m not having sex with beautiful slim women every single day, it\'s often enough that I know it\'s not the women that are the problem. I\'ve been with some very attractive women lately and I\'ve still had these issues. I can honestly say it\'s not psychological because never in my life have I felt more conformable around women and more confident in myself than I do now. Also before I started this journey I never had any ED problems with attractive women(or otherwise lol), while wearing a rubber or even when under the influence of alcohol. Maybe it\'s simply age? I guess that\'s a possibility, but I would hope not. I\'m only in my early 30\'s and it\'s only been 3 years since my non-issue pre-pmma days.
@chesterThat\'s not what I\'m saying. I know that no matter how big the shaft is it\'s not going to cause a vagina to be gaped open or something. But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I\'m feeling less fiction against my glans when having sex and this over a reasonably large sample size of time and partners. It has also gotten progressively worse with increased girth but it didn\'t get to the point of needing pharmaceutical\'s until I got close to the end of my journey after the last session, had the silikon glans treatment and went over 7(MSEG). The glans enhancement with silikon was done by Dr.C. and while my EQ did get noticeably worse after that they also added a large amount silikon to the shaft to touch up several areas. This actually added a surprising amount of overall girth(0.25) So that could be just as much more girth less=fiction than anything to do with the silikon in the glans or shaft. Plus the EQ issues had already start with just pmma before that session.

Also for the record that girth was not entirely by choice. My penis looked like it went through a freakin meat grinder after the first couple of sessions and that left me with only two options - removal and all the risks associated with that or \"the only way to go is up\" option, keep getting treatments in the hopes of eventually getting everything evened out. I choose option 2 and thankfully things worked out for me but I ended up with a much larger girth than I wanted. 7+inch girth is at times problematic for the kind of women I\'m interested in; pretty 20-somethings. That\'s why I\'m certain it comes down to one of two things; A) either something got messed up/damaged during one or more of my procedures. At one point I had a serious infection underneath the penile skin but the sensitivity didn\'t seem like it changed after that scary episode, I suppose it could of taken a while for the effects to be felt?
Or it\'s the girth/total volume of pmma > my shaft increases dramatically to about 6.5inch circumference just about an inch behind the glans meanwhile my glans are only 4.5inch! so logically would it not make sense that this would = less tightness and therefore less friction from the side walls of the vagina against the glans?

I tend to agree with Mustang about psychological ED in 90 percent of the cases. I\'ve experienced this myself when I thought I injured myself with manual PE. As far as PMMA, unfortunately the only evidence we have on the effect on EQ is a very small poll of 39 people. There were 5% who claimed EQ was worse post-PMMA in the 10 and 20 percent concentrations and 12% who had 30 percent PMMA. Too small to make a sound judgement on, however combined with other negative effects that have been reported it seems to me to give some indication of 10 percent PMMA being somewhat less risky.

~LL

While I believe that excessive PMMA has the potential to cause ED issues, female anatomy disqualifies the theory of vaginal tissue being \"pushed away\" from the glans by a bigger shaft. Vaginal walls don\'t work like an elevator, whose doors open to the widest width of the entrant or obstruction. Instead, the vaginal cavity conforms in concave fashion to whatever is inserted. Hence, deeper vaginal wall portions, such as those bordering an inserted glans, \"cave in\" to accommodate the smaller glans. Plenty of guys out there with small glans-to-shaft ratio without ED. However, I believe it would stand to reason that excessive PMMA can effect Erection quality, just based on common sense.

The thicker the sock, the less cold you feel.

In addition to psychological, I would add cardiovascular, to the short list of culprits.

I doubt that PMMA causes ED or contribute to it ,in most cases, I am thinking. I venture to say that ED is 90% psychological in many cases than physical.

Hey, get me a new different beautiful slim lady every day, and I guarantee I\'ll have great Erections with every one of them!!! I know I will, how about you?

I wouldn\'t pursue Phalloplasty with gut feelings. Ever.

wemustbecrazy - I concur with your sentiments above. I, too, have developed ED after my PMMA. My head is much smaller that the shaft thus I am looking for a procedure to enlarge. I\'m not 100% sure if that is the reason for my ED because I used to put it down to anxiety about my struggle to make my penis look presentable after a bad first procedure. So I think my ED is psychological too. But I also have weak erections while masturbating. I can feel the bumps and unnaturalness and it messes with my head into a negative thought process. I think with a women, it comes down to both. Less stimulation of the glans and my psyche. It\'s a tough cycle to break.

@manitou Actually yes ED can be related to size, at least that has been my experience. I didn\'t need to use pharmaceutical before but now I do. As the shaft has gotten progressively bigger it feels like my glands are getting less stimulation and the reason for this would seem to be pretty obvious. A women\'s vagina just won\'t be as snug/grip the head as well when her vaginal tissue is being pushed farther away from it by the much larger Girth of the shaft, especially if there is a dramatic increase in size right after the glands.