TOPIC: Major Changes Ahead

ll wrote: Although I\'m new to this forum I was an active member of PEGym and Thunders years ago and have done manual, stretching and pumping routines. I was banned from PEGym for speaking out on possible dangers of jelquing, and I was actually quoting a Urologist who believed manual PE could work, but just warning about the danger of jelqiing. Over the years I\'ve periodically been researching the best/safest methods for increasing Girth (a common desire) and I find this site invaluable.

So, when you\'re deleting posts if there is any way possible to leave at least an indication of the \"outcomes they aren\'t happy with\" (as hoddle10 mentions above) that would really be useful. People need to know what to expect from any procedure, positive and negative, so if there\'s a way to remove the neurotic/depressing stuff while still leaving any valuable *facts* that would be great.

Thanks to S.0. and the moderators and vets who\'ve contributed very useful information.

~LL

I\'ll do my absolute best to keep intact pertinent information. As mentioned in one of my previous replies, I believe the availability of \"negative\" reporting (i.e. complications, reports of dissatisfaction, etc) are invaluable and that I will make a distinction between \"negative reporting\" and \"reporting with negativity.\"

SO, you and the mods do a phenomenal job on this site, for the most part it is well informative and straight forward. I would agree that it needs to be cleaned as of late.

I was one of those guys at 6.25 to 6.5 el by 5.85 eg, that thought I was small and I NEEDED TO BE BIGGER.

Thanks to you and the mods I got fixed what was broke, the space between my ears. So even through the muck and yuck of some of the posts, this site does work, that is if the people reading have a rational thought process.


People that are desperate will do ill advised things like Indiano then whine and cry that everyone is ignoring him when he has an issue with his procedure. Please keep in mind while \" doing some house cleaning\" that even the negative posts like most of farmer john\'s have some value in them. He was freaked out in every way and it turned out ok.


Thanks for all you guys do,

J

Yeah baby if you don\'t want those extra inches I\'ll gladly take em!!!

2 extra inches. (1 length, 1 Girth)

i just wanna say that my vote goes to Resto getting carte fucking blanche to write anything he wants and to get anxious if he needs to at any time. so S.O. with respect mate, i think Resto or people who\'ve been right down during their journey are allowed to be anxious and to write about their anxieties whenever they like. some people are more equal than others if you ask me, and anyone whose been really in the shit should get leeway when it comes to how they chose to chronicle for us.

and jogift my old china are you fucking pissed mate? what are you hating on muslims for? and gays?

and does anyone know, since this is my 100th post, do i get an extra Inch or something?

@alek

Did the member who\'s implant hardened get rounds of 30%? Man that sucks.

Sadly if you think this is forum is all about PMMA only, you have not read enough material here.

There are countless pages and pages of people who were fucked by several doctors. Read mustangs log. Read restorations log. Read darkstaff log.

Its not only PMMA, but HA, FFT, and even a few brave new Elist implants.

There are doctors on board that cover a multitude of procedures.

Yes it is a online forum. A privately owned one, that can do whatever he pleases. Is there a rule about online forums I dont know of that makes them a democracy?

Im sorry you chose not to share your experience with us. I did and have not had a procedure, I was almost an Elist victim, I mean patient. I still chime in, some would say I\'m a disinterested party now since I chose to fix my insecurities rather than chance a issue with an normal penis.

I chose to donate several times way prior to the paid forum change. Yes the popularity of PMMA is high, for what you pay vs what you get is the best most cost effective way to obtain Girth enhancement.

That does not come without risk of irregularities, and there are good, bad and ugly stories here, for all types of pe.

Chester, you\'r an excellent analyst and almost got it right. Do you agree that the great strides in tehnology is since digital electronics?It\'s either \"yes or no\", \"1 or 0.\" HA moves? Yes or No! Should I read a thousand posts to get an answer?

lakingsfan, you are absolutely wrong! As chester says, it is a \"forum.\" Otherwise SO can just write papers and articles on the subject and publish them.

AndrogenS, what do you do until these \"promises\" have been established? Do you make use of what is available and proven? It\'s why we are here!

mike81, I think only the last paragraph of your post is correct. In line with that, in a former post of mine (few posts up), I mentioned that even the moderators are guilty of \"chiming\" in, to my disappointment.

mustang2020 is spot on ...

This forum has helped hundreds of readers in many ways. It is a source of great information about some forms of PE.

I hope some of the readers will sit back, relax and enjoy the wealth of Personal and Private information available here, information that some of us have taken a huge risks to obtain and turned around and shared it publicly.

I also hope that the same readers will try to add and contribute in a Positive way to this forum.

I sincerely wish for the continuation of this site.

Live Long and F*** Long

S.O. owes nobody anything. (He started out at 3.5\" Girth mind you)

If the forum disappeared tmrw, I wouldn\'t blame him.

The amount of sad-sack sob stories on here is pretty insane. Having a small Dick fucking sucks and I know it. I live it everyday. But I grit my teeth and lace up my boots everyday.. I suffer from depression and angst over it. I just work harder. If I was born 20 years ago, I\'d be fucked. No options. Now I\'m so thankful there is.

The thing that blows my mind is how sometimes a worthy thread can get little to no attention, while some crazy person comes on here talking about nonsense and everybody will come out of the woodwork to chime in.

What you guys don\'t get is it doesn\'t have to be fair or objective or liked among the members.

The same thing happened with the paid membership decision, people bitched and moaned about his decision. Its his forum. He paid for it out of pocket except for the small amount of donations.

Like it or not it is a online forum. That does not give anyone any right to determine how the administrative staff runs it, or the ownership operates it. It is not a democracy nor a publicly traded corporation. Its not a government agency and at the top of his forum rules it says very clearly

The rules of the forum are subject to change at any time.

Guess what folks they are changing and he is giving a heads up when he clearly doesnt need to.

I wasn\'t going to butt in, because I\'m fairly moderate on this issue and understand both sides, but I have to agree with aleksk. It\'s a point that I raised before in another thread. My fundamental disagreement with jogift is that he\'s viewing this forum as some sort of efficient FAQ tool. It is not. This is an organic, natural *forum* which is a very different thing. A forum is where people come to openly and honestly share a multitude of ideas, thoughts, formulas, experiences, ventings, etc., about all things related to the specified topic. By definition, a forum is an open platform of discussion. It can certainly be moderated, to ensure that information is relevant, and there are ways to accomplish S.O.\'s goal without deleting posts, as aleksk alluded to. I understand both sides, but it honestly doesn\'t bother me to read over some posts that easily miss the target of a thread, because I know that I\'m on a forum. This is what jogift doesn\'t seem to understand. This is not some kind of PE search engine. It\'s a forum. Either way, this is still, by far, the best place online to get truly informative and unbiased data and opinions about PE.

It\'s already very stressful to live in a society where I\'m forced to be tolerant to a muslim, if I consider them all to be terrorists; to gays, if I\'m straight or, if I\'m cut, to continue with a woman who was being fucked by an uncut guy and have \"smegma\" lining her cervix. Should we be dwelling on things like these? Should I take two hours obtaining two sentences I need when I could have done in ten minutes? These are problems for serious researchers looking for answers.

It is \"objective\" to include every post by everyone. But who really wants to read how many times reseachers of vaccines are scratching their arse? The major changes are necessary, only I think a complete overhauling should be done ...

I support anything that\'s going to make life easier for the owner and the moderators by deleting excessive posting, including my own.
It seems slightly ludicrous to be constantly describing people and their posts as \"neurotic\" and depressive\" seen as this is a forum for people who are depressed about their penis.
Sometimes it seems the only people on here who aren\'t neurotic and depressed are people who are already 14cm thick and do PMMA for sport.

SO, I do remember that you supported me twice when I posted that Dr Oates thread was being derailed and when I wrote that the forum was losing its \"sting\" due to numerous unnecessary threads. Thanks so much for that.

Now, the forum is yours and you\'ve stated \"no debate\" on the issue but in the interest of fairness (without finger pointing or blame game);-

1) The moderators themselves do \"egg on\" some of these stupid threads. How many posts by moderators are in the thread about Circumcision alone that you mentioned as negative? Is it possible that they may have been lax in their roles (howbeit voluntary) in guiding and enforcing forum rules?

2) The \"members\" who called and PMed you personally about the state of the forum should have posted their views openly in the forum itself which could have helped to serve as a guide to the erring members. If it seems that there are \"behind the scene\" going ons that eventually affect the whole forum then there is the apparent \"Animal Farm\" feeling that runs deep.

I know I\'ve pissed off several members because I told them to \"shut up\", many times my posts are ignored because I might even be viewed as a nuisance but I am advocating openness and transparency here. Whilst the \"major changes\" are most welcome, could it not be an overall review of the forum as a whole, including forum rules, for instance, that allowed the degradation to the current state? I believe that there are now a much larger volume of posts than before and it might not be easy for moderators to sieve through them all. Removing the threads and posts but ensuring no more of them is essential ...