TOPIC: How long is PMMA manipulatable, in your experience? Update Day 60 Touch up with Dr. Cho Lipen D in S. Korea

I believe you will get the same results with PMMA as you do having fat injected into your penis.... Less is more in this instance and you need to have the PMMA (if you think is right for you)- Injected minimally so you don\'t get an uneven \'overfilled\' result... Having to massage lumps and bumps would be a nightmare.. (I experienced this with fat injection)... You need a product that is even right along and won\'t dissolve unevenly or you will be spending all year trying to even things out only for the product to dissolve or merge and you have to start all over again... I believe the Gold Standard is Dermal Grafts (done properly) but even I wouldn\'t get Dermal Grafts because of the donor scarring I have seen and heard about... I am thinking Belladerm but I am skeptical as to it\'s longevity... i.e. Dissolving, moving, shrinking etc...

Thanks for the replies fellas. Yes I do have mobile skin and that was one of my worries because I would think that it\'s easier for the PMMA to move around before it sets. I told Dr. C to do what he thought was best and this is how it ended up. I am trying to stay calm and just let it settle as Crebo says.

I know that I will have a second procedure but it won\'t be until November if I go to Dr. C. I\'m in South Korea so I might see Dr. Cho to get his opinion. I will be sure to share his thoughts with the board. I\'m going to wait at least 6 weeks before I have a consultation with him.

I\'m surprised my gains are under an Inch right now being that I had 26cc. I\'m starting to believe that the doctor in Prague that uses a little 30% at a time in separate procedures is a better option and theory on how to apply this product.

My starting stats were 7in x 5in Erect. I did have pre-op pictures but deleted the entire thread in an emotional tirade I was having at the time. My plan was to leave the forum and forgot everything. I was very distraught at the time and not prepared for what I was seeing in my pants. I have since calmed down and stop acting irrational. I chose this procedure and read this forum for years before I did it. I will have to be strong and live with however it turns out. I\'m thankful that this non bias and transparent forum exist.

@jimmyjames

Honestly I think your unit is looking much better. There is still some residual puffiness but in the 3rd shot it looks especially more natural than from before. A second round is usually inevitable for some people and I suspect some work can be done to even out the contour irregularities. Hoddle pointed out the mobile skin, get as many of these photos on your next visit and I suspect Dr. C (a Dermatologist) will know what to do. I would not go for more size on your second round, make it strictly aesthetic correction.

Good luck!

JJ,
I know exactly what you mean! I have the same concerns, but again mine is starting to look better, yours really doesn\'t look bad, I do understand that you\'ve seen it for years and it\'s under heavy scrutiny at the moment! Just relax and let the dust/PMMA settle! My injection spots look the same.... even without the bumps the spot is noticeable, looks like a rough BJ to me! Good luck, hang in there. It will be okay....

It looks like you have very mobile skin. Only 10% should be used in such cases in my opinion.

Did you post \"before\" photos? What were your stats?

Here is 20 day update. My penis is 80% in some photos. I think I have some psychological ED because I am feeling depressed about the shape and my mind is wandering negatively. Let me know your feelings. You can see a large module on one picture and the general unevenness. The top down photo looks alright but does show the whole story. Thanks for you comments!

About size, I am about .8in larger and it\'s getting smaller by the day. I was well over an 1inch 1 week ago

I always had that lingering thought that \"wouldn\'t it move the product around and leave it un even. The one thing that made sense to me, was the penis being stretched, so it can heal in an elongated state to prevent Turtling.

I don\'t think Dr N tells anyone to massage the penis afterwards other than keep it wrapped up. But because most guys read this forum I guess they would massage even after DR N hoping for no lumps.

Many member say massaging helped prevent lumps, so I am lost. If I had PMMA, I wouldn\'t massage for like 24 hours, to let it set a bit like jelly ( so it doesn\'t easily move around) and just only massage lumps before they hardened. But I am guess that if you slept on your penis it would squish to one side lol. So maybe just be to sit there with your penis stretched for 48hrs and not sleep.

I think dr N doesn\'t advice to massage, is that correct ?

michael wrote: Mustang2020, are you saying if you have 30%, it best not to massage?

For ME, that would have been the case! again, for me. Dr C had placed the 30%PMMA in perfect places, I was told to massage it by Wade that night, and I did, it pushed some PMMA around and although it looked even that night it ended having a low spot in that particular area. Another word, the high spot that was massaged would have been perfect once the fluids/swelling went away and had I not massaged it!!!

In all my previous rounds, I had not massaged in any aggressive way and I had only wrapped the penis evenly and I actually had very even results, of course there were some very small irregularities but not much at all even with 30%.

On my last round I massaged the high spots as instructed and it ended up been a low spot. I am not blaming any one, it just happened this way.

On my next corrective round, I am going to discuss it with Dr C and Wade and the three of us will hopefully reach an intelligent and correct after care procedure.

Overall, I am happy with the results and all I want now is to add in the final touches and then concentrate on gaining a little extra EL (0.3\"-0.6\") and I promise you I will quit PE...may be

I stress that this has been MY experience, so please understand it as such and follow you own beliefs!

I had the procedure about 4 days ago and I\'m quite worried about the aesthetics of my results. When flacid it can look quite lumpy and uneven but I can massage it and even it out a bit. Is what I am sculpting out just swelling or PMMA? When it is Erect it looks a little better with a only few waves of unevenness and one major low point near the base that will have to be fixed next time for sure?

Is PMMA still manipulatable after 4 days?

Is swelling still apparent after 4 days that can distort the penis and make it look lumpy? But ultimately the final result will look better?

Should I keep in wrapped and in the esl40 strecther?

I know that you might say just email Dr. C but their aftercare protocol is not a science and results vary so I wanted to know what some of you did during the aftercare. Thanks for your advice because I\'m extremely nervous and losing sleep.