TOPIC: How long is PMMA manipulatable, in your experience? Update Day 60 Touch up with Dr. Cho Lipen D in S. Korea

Thanks for all the replies... Things are already looking less uneven but Girth has went down dramatically at day 7. I had 26cc of mostly 30% and I\'m only sitting with a .4 gain right now. Hopefully collagen will boost the size more. I\'m not going to stress about ir anymore and just let the product do the work and prepare for a second procedure to make it more perfect. I\'m also leaving the forum as I\'ve spent way too much time here. Cheers and good luck to all.

Do you think my result now at 6 days is indicative of what will be in 6 weeks in regards to the lumpiness and overall unevenness. I really hope not or I\'ll be really disappointed because I can\'t go back for 8 months minimum. Has anyone here had lumpy results at 6 days but it evened out over time?

Most likely the PMMA is pretty much fixed and only the swelling is what can be moved. The final result will be realized in a few months. I suspect the look will get better but you may also have to do another round so don\'t worry too much. I only say this not having seen any pix of your initial results.

Good Luck!

Without pix it is hard for us to asses the situation. 30% is more likely to form high/low spots IF massaged by the patient and the product got pushed to the wrong spot, it is less tolerant than 10%. This happened to me and I will need another session to correct it, but mine is not too bad in my eyes. Dr C actually is excellent at placing product where it should go, but of course he is not perfect and also some time some patients massage/move the PMMA to another spot and hence they create their own problems (I am not saying you did though!).

Send pix to Wade and see what he says!

Also, if you are leaving this forum you will have to keep in touch with Dr C to get your answers, not that we are Dr\'s here but we have some good opinions on this board.

Here are my photos 12 days post op. It\'s a Flaccid pic and a pulled stretch picture. I\'m feeling pretty defeated at the moment and just praying this gets better. I even made up a lie to take a break from my GF because I\'m so embarrassed. Is it possible to still have swelling this far post op that is making these deformities? I know I said earlier that I would leave the forum but I plan to see this through and update my progress to highlight that this is not some peachy process with flawless results like so many before me.

Is the puffy ring around your glans soft & squishy or hardening like much of the rest of your shaft? If it\'s soft & squishy, it\'s likely still swelling (we all heal differently), and could even be fluid(s) / edema (someone chime in ??). I\'d get Wade & Dr. C\'s opinion and I\'d keep your head up...fortunately the issues seem to be strictly aesthetic and that\'s something that can ultimately be worked on (as opposed to having serious complications like infection, etc).

If you decide to leave this forum, you can always update your progress report without necessarily having to be frequently active. Just some food for thought, good luck !

@jimmyjames

Honestly I think your unit is looking much better. There is still some residual puffiness but in the 3rd shot it looks especially more natural than from before. A second round is usually inevitable for some people and I suspect some work can be done to even out the contour irregularities. Hoddle pointed out the mobile skin, get as many of these photos on your next visit and I suspect Dr. C (a Dermatologist) will know what to do. I would not go for more size on your second round, make it strictly aesthetic correction.

Good luck!

JJ,
I know exactly what you mean! I have the same concerns, but again mine is starting to look better, yours really doesn\'t look bad, I do understand that you\'ve seen it for years and it\'s under heavy scrutiny at the moment! Just relax and let the dust/PMMA settle! My injection spots look the same.... even without the bumps the spot is noticeable, looks like a rough BJ to me! Good luck, hang in there. It will be okay....

It looks like you have very mobile skin. Only 10% should be used in such cases in my opinion.

Did you post \"before\" photos? What were your stats?

Here is 20 day update. My penis is 80% in some photos. I think I have some psychological ED because I am feeling depressed about the shape and my mind is wandering negatively. Let me know your feelings. You can see a large module on one picture and the general unevenness. The top down photo looks alright but does show the whole story. Thanks for you comments!

About size, I am about .8in larger and it\'s getting smaller by the day. I was well over an 1inch 1 week ago

I always had that lingering thought that \"wouldn\'t it move the product around and leave it un even. The one thing that made sense to me, was the penis being stretched, so it can heal in an elongated state to prevent Turtling.

I don\'t think Dr N tells anyone to massage the penis afterwards other than keep it wrapped up. But because most guys read this forum I guess they would massage even after DR N hoping for no lumps.

Many member say massaging helped prevent lumps, so I am lost. If I had PMMA, I wouldn\'t massage for like 24 hours, to let it set a bit like jelly ( so it doesn\'t easily move around) and just only massage lumps before they hardened. But I am guess that if you slept on your penis it would squish to one side lol. So maybe just be to sit there with your penis stretched for 48hrs and not sleep.

I think dr N doesn\'t advice to massage, is that correct ?

michael wrote: Mustang2020, are you saying if you have 30%, it best not to massage?

For ME, that would have been the case! again, for me. Dr C had placed the 30%PMMA in perfect places, I was told to massage it by Wade that night, and I did, it pushed some PMMA around and although it looked even that night it ended having a low spot in that particular area. Another word, the high spot that was massaged would have been perfect once the fluids/swelling went away and had I not massaged it!!!

In all my previous rounds, I had not massaged in any aggressive way and I had only wrapped the penis evenly and I actually had very even results, of course there were some very small irregularities but not much at all even with 30%.

On my last round I massaged the high spots as instructed and it ended up been a low spot. I am not blaming any one, it just happened this way.

On my next corrective round, I am going to discuss it with Dr C and Wade and the three of us will hopefully reach an intelligent and correct after care procedure.

Overall, I am happy with the results and all I want now is to add in the final touches and then concentrate on gaining a little extra EL (0.3\"-0.6\") and I promise you I will quit PE...may be

I stress that this has been MY experience, so please understand it as such and follow you own beliefs!

Hi jimmyjames

After my 1st round, I had a very similar effect behind the glans. I think it took 2-3 weeks until the swelling went down in this area.

The unevennes can be corrected on your 2nd round, as can hard injection points.

Best of luck with your recovery

Mustang2020, are you saying if you have 30%, it best not to massage?