TOPIC: The contiuing lies of elist and his practice about his silicone implant, will it end?

I never knew Jazzy was \"Motion in the ocean.\" I remember the day he took his bandage off and discovered the scar along his shaft. He went out and bought a camera just to show the forum. Unbelievably the Elist shills praised the Dr\'s ingenuity and somehow Elist came out of it smelling of roses. To me it looked like he just accidentally ripped the shaft skin during surgery and came out with some ridiculous excuse for it.

I was the one who posted the Silicone Disaster photos. Within minutes I got a PM from Chad pretending to be interested, but really he was just fishing for reasons to ban me and lock the thread.

I\'ve still got the photos if anyone\'s interested. Silicone Disaster is a friend of Smartmans. Hopefully he can let us know how he\'s doing now.

hoddle10 wrote: I never knew Jazzy was \"Motion in the ocean.\" I remember the day he took his bandage off and discovered the scar along his shaft. He went out and bought a camera just to show the forum. Unbelievably the Elist shills praised the Dr\'s ingenuity and somehow Elist came out of it smelling of roses. To me it looked like he just accidentally ripped the shaft skin during surgery and came out with some ridiculous excuse for it.

I was the one who posted the Silicone Disaster photos. Within minutes I got a PM from Chad pretending to be interested, but really he was just fishing for reasons to ban me and lock the thread.

I\'ve still got the photos if anyone\'s interested. Silicone Disaster is a friend of Smartmans. Hopefully he can let us know how he\'s doing now.

Those photos are scary as hell.
One of the interesting things about that whole case is that the silicon disaster patient is a physician (in Dubai) himself. Dr. Elist used to spend a month or so every year doing the implant procedure in the UAE. I don\'t hear about him doing that anymore.

a perfect site for scars removal surgery is realself.com just click on the type of surgery u interested and the state close to u and u will find reviews from patients of doctors that went through the surgey. hope that helps.

JazzyJ wrote:

hoddle10 wrote: I never knew Jazzy was \"Motion in the ocean.\" I remember the day he took his bandage off and discovered the scar along his shaft. He went out and bought a camera just to show the forum. Unbelievably the Elist shills praised the Dr\'s ingenuity and somehow Elist came out of it smelling of roses. To me it looked like he just accidentally ripped the shaft skin during surgery and came out with some ridiculous excuse for it.

I was the one who posted the Silicone Disaster photos. Within minutes I got a PM from Chad pretending to be interested, but really he was just fishing for reasons to ban me and lock the thread.

I\'ve still got the photos if anyone\'s interested. Silicone Disaster is a friend of Smartmans. Hopefully he can let us know how he\'s doing now.

Yeah, thats me, \"Motion In Ocean\", known as JazzyJ on here.......I couldnt believe Elist stuck the implant through my penis instead of my pubic area.I was devastated when I saw that. No where on his site does he mention about the implant being inserted through a sliced up penis. I have scar tissue that I would like to get rid of & cleared up.......

Elist took out my implant in one of his rooms at his office, yes, I said his office. Talk about being unprofessional. He even had one of the secretaries come in & help him out. Thats right, I had that young women he had in their standing over me & helping Elist. Thank goodness he shot me up with some really good pain meds. The thing is tho he didnt sew me up after he cut me in the pubic area to take out the implant but he did bandage me up.

Thing is, when I took the bus to my hotel, I had blood trickling down my leg. I couldnt believe WTF was going on but I was still pretty high from the pain meds.

Now I just want to get rid of my scar tissue & get back to stretching.

That Chad clown from the other site also stole my $250 for a stretching mechanism I purchased & I never received anything.........so is life!

Anyone know of any good surgeons on the East Coast for scar tissue removal?

He had told me there wasnt much room in the pubic area to fit the implant through. Because after he inserted the implant through my penis, there was no entry at all through my pubic area. The guy is a total wack job, thats for sure. He acts like youre going through a drive up window & youre asking for a Big Mac. Thats how fast he talks.......I should have known better & just walked out & lost my $1,000 deposit but like others, we were so hyped up about getting the implant in.

But wasn\'t the reason Elist gave for inserting through the shaft skin that there was something preventing him going through the pubic area? In which case, how was he able to remove it through an incision the pubic area? At the time it sounded like total bullshit to me and he just somehow managed to rip your shaft skin and tried to get away with it by saying it was intentional. I remember Chad and his shills were all telling you that Elist had done a great job!

hoddle10 wrote: I never knew Jazzy was \"Motion in the ocean.\" I remember the day he took his bandage off and discovered the scar along his shaft. He went out and bought a camera just to show the forum. Unbelievably the Elist shills praised the Dr\'s ingenuity and somehow Elist came out of it smelling of roses. To me it looked like he just accidentally ripped the shaft skin during surgery and came out with some ridiculous excuse for it.

I was the one who posted the Silicone Disaster photos. Within minutes I got a PM from Chad pretending to be interested, but really he was just fishing for reasons to ban me and lock the thread.

I\'ve still got the photos if anyone\'s interested. Silicone Disaster is a friend of Smartmans. Hopefully he can let us know how he\'s doing now.

Yeah, thats me, \"Motion In Ocean\", known as JazzyJ on here.......I couldnt believe Elist stuck the implant through my penis instead of my pubic area.I was devastated when I saw that. No where on his site does he mention about the implant being inserted through a sliced up penis. I have scar tissue that I would like to get rid of & cleared up.......

Elist took out my implant in one of his rooms at his office, yes, I said his office. Talk about being unprofessional. He even had one of the secretaries come in & help him out. Thats right, I had that young women he had in their standing over me & helping Elist. Thank goodness he shot me up with some really good pain meds. The thing is tho he didnt sew me up after he cut me in the pubic area to take out the implant but he did bandage me up.

Thing is, when I took the bus to my hotel, I had blood trickling down my leg. I couldnt believe WTF was going on but I was still pretty high from the pain meds.

Now I just want to get rid of my scar tissue & get back to stretching.

That Chad clown from the other site also stole my $250 for a stretching mechanism I purchased & I never received anything.........so is life!

Anyone know of any good surgeons on the East Coast for scar tissue Removal?

Microphonecheck\'s Question:
1. First and foremost, how long was your recovery? Mine from getting he implant was about 3 weeks. I had an infection, a urinary tract infection no less, pee\'d blood clots which hurt to no end for nearly a month and couldn\'t sleep a wink for the first week because I needed to urinate every 1-2 minutes.
Messageman\'s answer:
I initially had to wait for the wound (from the implant Removal) to heal. This took about six weeks. My penis had retracted almost two inches by this point. I started manually stretching, pumping, and using an all-day-stretcher. Unbelievably,not only was I able to regain my original length back, but I got an extra 3/4 of an Inch! That being said, most guys are not as lucky as I was...And you should consider yourself lucky if you get your length back.

Microphonecheck\'s Question:
2. Second question is, should I have Elist perform this or visit a local Urologist? I\'m scared to go back there honestly...
Messageman\'s Answer:
Tough question. Though this doctor is a sociopath and not to be trusted, the fact is, he has probably, by this point, has taken out hundreds of implants... There is probably nobody who understands the implant and the issues caused by it than Dr. Elist. He will try to get you to have it taken out in his office...Don\'t let him. Have it taken out in the surgical centre. Again, it\'s a tough decision.


Microphonecheck\'s Question:
3. Third question I have is how soon could I start Hanging and Jelqing again to regain my length?
Messageman\'s Answer:
Wait until all of the wounds have entirely healed.

Microphonecheck\'s Question:
4. Last but not least, how long should I wait after the Removal before I visis Dr. C for some PMMA? Or should I wait until I\'ve regained back to my 5.5\" length or (hopefully) longer?
Messageman\'s Answer
Wait for your penis to heal; your penis will have been through a lot. And try to get as much length back as possible. It will probably easier to get the length back pre PMMA than post PMMA. Lastly, psychologically, you need time to heal. You may not be in the right frame of mind to make rational decisions, having gone through this horrific experience. PMMA will always be there...

Thank you so much in advance for taking the time to respond!

You may want to read this:

phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/The...hen-5414806?trail=30

good luck man.

I\'m seriously considering getting my neighbor to watch my kids for a couple days so I can get this thing out of me. First I have a few questions for those of you whom have gone through the same or can retell someone else\'s story:

1. First and foremost, how long was your recovery? Mine from getting he implant was about 3 weeks. I had an infection, a urinary tract infection no less, pee\'d blood clots which hurt to no end for nearly a month and couldn\'t sleep a wink for the first week because I needed to urinate every 1-2 minutes.

2. Second question is, should I have Elist perform this or visit a local Urologist? I\'m scared to go back there honestly...

3. Third question I have is how soon could I start Hanging and Jelqing again to regain my length?

4. Last but not least, how long should I wait after the Removal before I visis Dr. C for some PMMA? Or should I wait until I\'ve regained back to my 5.5\" length or (hopefully) longer?

Thank you so much in advance for taking the time to respond!

Skeptical One wrote:

Bigben wrote: Hang in there MC I hope you can get it removed soon and return to a more normal sex life. FWIW, I would not have censored your ending comments !!

Content in violation of forum rules will be edited/deleted. As much as we all consider Dr. E\'s methodologies to be nothing short of shameful, I have a responsibility to draw the line somewhere.

@Microphon

I totally understand the need to express displeasure with Dr. E, and at times I\'ve allowed forum members to be forceful in their words, but sometimes I have to set a standard for discussion in order to maintain the quality of discussion. This isn\'t a knock against your or your member account (assuming you don\'t repeat the original offense), and your expression of discontent will resonate with the readers of this forum. I genuinely hope for your return to normalcy.

I sincerely apologize for my poor choice of words. Needless to say its how I truly feel and expressing myself with curses gave me the only appropriate emphasis on how I feel. My sex life is in shambles but as I stated many months ago I am a single, full-time father of two and have no time or opportunity to seek remediation of my current ailment. I am, however, Jelqing like mad even with this contraption in me and still seeking a good ADS that can assist in the long road ahead. With my current predicament the x4 barely fits around the base of my penis and doesn\'t stay on. (suggestions please? Cant find \"the grip\" everyone speaks so fondly of)

I don\'t know what other options I have at this time... This must be how unichs felt in the Roman Empire! Lol

Bigben wrote: Hang in there MC I hope you can get it removed soon and return to a more normal sex life. FWIW, I would not have censored your ending comments !!

Content in violation of forum rules will be edited/deleted. As much as we all consider Dr. E\'s methodologies to be nothing short of shameful, I have a responsibility to draw the line somewhere.

@Microphon

I totally understand the need to express displeasure with Dr. E, and at times I\'ve allowed forum members to be forceful in their words, but sometimes I have to set a standard for discussion in order to maintain the quality of discussion. This isn\'t a knock against your or your member account (assuming you don\'t repeat the original offense), and your expression of discontent will resonate with the readers of this forum. I genuinely hope for your return to normalcy.

Hang in there MC I hope you can get it removed soon and return to a more normal sex life. FWIW, I would not have censored your ending comments !!

Microphoncheck wrote:

Mustang2020 wrote: SM, I wish you the best of luck with your upcoming healing. Please keep us informed if you so wish.

The problem with elist is that he lies about many problems with his implant, before he puts it in and after he removes it. So far, I think about, again \"about\", 100% of people who had his implant and reported here have had it removed....you are the last one I know of.

I still haven\'t had mine removed... More from lack of time than anything. Too embarrassed to have sex now that I\'ve lost 1.5\" length and it\'s all turned into girth at the base of my penis (yea I\'m pyramid penis with a base girth of 7.5 down to 5.5 where I used to be at my head. I was 5.5x5.5... I\'d for that again). Save for one girl I bed down, a prostitute no less (couldn\'t gain the guts to show any other girl my pyramid dick...). She grabbed the base and said it was the thickest dick she\'d ever seen. Nice of her to refrain from saying it was also the weirdest and most difficult to keep a fucking condom on cause it keeps rolling off. Fuck Dr. Elist. Moderator Edit: Contents in Violation of Forum rules. (sorry for the profanity/vulgarity and pure hatred displayed in this postl. I\'m a very non-violent man but Elist brings out the absolute worst in me.)

Another happy Elist patient!!!!! Dr. Elsit is a monster. Microphonecheck...My goes out to you. The sooner you get that dildo out of your penis, the better.

Mustang2020 wrote: SM, I wish you the best of luck with your upcoming healing. Please keep us informed if you so wish.

The problem with elist is that he lies about many problems with his implant, before he puts it in and after he removes it. So far, I think about, again \"about\", 100% of people who had his implant and reported here have had it removed....you are the last one I know of.

I still haven\'t had mine removed... More from lack of time than anything. Too embarrassed to have sex now that I\'ve lost 1.5\" length and it\'s all turned into Girth at the base of my penis (yea I\'m pyramid penis with a base Girth of 7.5 down to 5.5 where I used to be at my head. I was 5.5x5.5... I\'d for that again). Save for one girl I bed down, a prostitute no less (couldn\'t gain the guts to show any other girl my pyramid Dick...). She grabbed the base and said it was the thickest Dick she\'d ever seen. Nice of her to refrain from saying it was also the weirdest and most difficult to keep a fucking condom on cause it keeps rolling off. Fuck Dr. Elist. Moderator Edit: Contents in Violation of Forum rules. (sorry for the profanity/vulgarity and pure hatred displayed in this postl. I\'m a very non-violent man but Elist brings out the absolute worst in me.)

messageman wrote: When I was going through the turmoil of having my implant removed, I remember how thankful I was to Dr. Elist for helping me (to remove it)...completely forgetting that it was he who lied and tricked me into getting it in the first place. I liken the feeling I had for for him to the \"Stockholm Syndrome\"...This is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. It was only months afterwards I realized how mistreated I was and dare to post about it. I was also very worried to breathe a negative word about him or the procedure through the whole process (from the implant being put it) to the crisis of infection and having it removed, for fear of retribution. Simply, he was the only man in the world basically who knew how to treat it and, if need be, remove it. I don\'t write the following lightly: The man is a sociopath and must be stopped. He has permanently injured countless men, luring them into this extremely risky procedure with blatant lies.

MM, you are right on the money with your comments (\"Stockholm Syndrome\"), for me anyway. I felt the same way as you did about that lying dr. Now, I know he lied to all of us and he took our money and abused us with his failed implant and he has and continues to cause pain to many men...I believe in karma, and he is going to get his one day...