TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

Irish you still around? I notice youve started a new thread at pegym. Hows your progress?!

Also The Dr. Has been in contact and has responded to my text the customer service has been good so far. The Dr.s customer service does not line up with someone who does not care. I do think he cares and I think the atacts against him are baseless at this point. Just my opinion

Irishfan did you get a reason why the thread at pegym was locked? Just curious about that. It does not seem like a forum that is very open minded to surgery in penis enlargment.
kcchief

H10, can you also \"observe a Modest\" 1.5\" of length increase with your oil procedure? if so, you will be a rich man soon...book me up!

Irishfan wrote: Why is anyone unhappy with him? I have only seen attacks and no personal experience. If someone has a personal reason for being unhappy I would love to hear it. But not based on what someone read somewhere. I am in the customer service business. One thing I have learned is you can\'t please 100% of the people no matter how hard you try. Some people just don\'t want to be happy.

I did send three pictures to skepticle one. He agreed not to post them untill I was ready.

Because he\'s experimenting on guys with an unknown cocktail of which he can have no idea of the complication rate is/will be!

After everything you\'ve read here you should be considering legal action against the guy. Yet all I ever see is you defending him. Even on PEGym you seem to have spoken very little about what you\'ve learned here. It\'s as if you don\'t want people to know that there is far more to be worried about than potential gains. If he\'s injected plain Silikon1000, as I strongly suspect, then you will see gains. But as for things that can go wrong in the coming years, none of us can have much of a clue. Silikon1000 I believe is slightly different to silicone oils traditionally used for body modification, so it\'s really hard to know what we are dealing with here.

There is no safe PE procedure. I wouldn\'t endorse any method. But if people are going to have something done, they at least need to know exactly what it is and what the potential complications are.

I\'ve got a syringe and can get some paraffin oil, so could easily enlarge your penis for you, if size is all you care about. I\'d charge a hell of a lot less than Dr Loria as well.

SO he said he wanted the pics to remain private for now, you are still going to post them ? are they fake ?

I am glad you sent the pictures. Basically a lot of us including myself, do not like Dr L. Unfortunately some the of hostility is being directed toward you, since we can not talk to the doctor himself.

I would say ignore at least for now, it is more important that you focus on healing by maintaining a positive outlook. And is probably counterproductive to defend Dr L.

I am hoping you recover from this fully, and please reconsider going back for more treatments until you have more time to research this and think things over. just my advice.

Irishfan wrote: Why is anyone unhappy with him? I have only seen attacks and no personal experience. If someone has a personal reason for being unhappy I would love to hear it. But not based on what someone read somewhere. I am in the customer service business. One thing I have learned is you can\'t please 100% of the people no matter how hard you try. Some people just don\'t want to be happy.

I did send three pictures to skepticle one. He agreed not to post them untill I was ready.

Yes I did receive 2 photos, I will share them with the forum when the uploading system is back in place.

Irishfan, the reason for the unpopularity of Dr. Loria on this site stems from his lack of transparency, his employment of shills, and his overall disregard & disrespect of this forum. All you have to do is take the time to read all the Dr. Loria-related threads to see why many of us are not exactly thrilled about the Doctor.

Why is anyone unhappy with him? I have only seen attacks and no personal experience. If someone has a personal reason for being unhappy I would love to hear it. But not based on what someone read somewhere. I am in the customer service business. One thing I have learned is you can\'t please 100% of the people no matter how hard you try. Some people just don\'t want to be happy.

I did send three pictures to skepticle one. He agreed not to post them untill I was ready.

\"Irishfan did you get a reason why the thread at pegym was locked? Just curious about that. It does not seem like a forum that is very open minded to surgery in penis enlargment.
kcchief\"

It looks like the original thread was erased but know there are two new ones started by Irishfan on pegym.

I hope he can produce some documentation, so we can put this to rest. I know a copy of the hippa form must be given to the patient by law, so he must have something he can email.

Can you specify what you consider an \'attack\' on Loria\'s work? So far everybody has been very polite and objective in their comments.

You are doing a disservice to yourself (and to Dr Loria, whom you seem to be protecting) by making unsubstantiated claims (i.e., \"attacks,\" calling \'perverts\' anyone who asks you for proof providing pictures).

Irishfan wrote: Also The Dr. Has been in contact and has responded to my text the customer service has been good so far. The Dr.s customer service does not line up with someone who does not care. I do think he cares and I think the atacts against him are baseless at this point. Just my opinion

Given the fact that the pics provided by the previous poster about Dr Loria\'s success procedure has turned to be fake (Bigjunk), we have reasonable doubt about anyone else claiming to have undergone any procedure with him.

Irishfan wrote: I do not recall calling anyone a pervert, I just said I was not. In my months at the PE Gym you see the same people posting pictures of their dicks all the time. And I guess if I was as proud as them Imight want to show it off to. I find it strange that so many people want to see pictures of me when it\'s still in recovery. It\'s like a painter not wanting to show his work before its done.

Hello Irishfan,

Many of us are not happy with Dr Loria, and for good reason. Unfortunately you are also getting much of the backlash which is not fair. For example, Elist patients are not treated like this.

As EQstudent said, we are here to support you. If you have a bad result you get advice from guys here. Although it is not easy silicone can be removed, and there are a few excellent surgeons in the US. Hopefully you will be fine though.

Certainly you got a receipt, after care instructions, or other liability paperwork from Dr L. Why dont you take a picture (with you name covered) and send it to one of the mods. This will protect your privacy and give definitive evidence you are who you are. I believe you, but also I can see how some would be skeptical given all the controversy.

Also I would remind members every time you reference the doctors name in your post you are creating a permanent google searchable link which only potentially gives him a larger potential pool of patients. Unfortunately in PE sometimes bad publicity is good publicity as there is always a small percentage of guys willing to ignore the enormous red flags.

BB

I do not recall calling anyone a pervert, I just said I was not. In my months at the PE Gym you see the same people posting pictures of their dicks all the time. And I guess if I was as proud as them Imight want to show it off to. I find it strange that so many people want to see pictures of me when it\'s still in recovery. It\'s like a painter not wanting to show his work before its done.

@Irishfan

Listen, as Moderators, our hands are tied in protecting you against allegations of shilling, lying, etc, if you aren\'t willing to demonstrate pics.

You have already conceded that you would eventually show pics if the circumstances warranted it. So why not just show pics of your current penis as it currently stands, bruising, wrapping, thickness, and all. To allege we\'re perverts because we want to see evidence doesn\'t help your cause and actually changes my perception of you. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt (even when there has been a shill issue) because of your membership at PEGym, but now I\'m not so sure.

Listen, you are going to have to provide some photos if you wish to continue posting about your journey. You are the first report of its kind, and with the shilling as bad as it has been with this procedure, you are virtually obligated to furnish evidence pronto. Besides, if you wait another 2 weeks and show us your \"After\" photos, we wont know for sure the \"Before\" photos are yours simply because we didn\'t see your penis through the most important phase! We need to see your penis as it stands post-op to verify the legitimacy of your claims.

Our photo uploading is down at this time, but you can email me the photos at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and I can upload them when the system is back up - and I can also vouch for you as well. You must provide some picture evidence to satisfy Rule (R7.) which states: Falsifying information about a surgical method\'s technique, effectiveness, side effects, outcomes, results, success rate, and/or complication rate is wrong and unacceptable. Fictional testimony/reporting of one\'s experience with phalloplasty is also forbidden.

Posting photos wont exonerate you from possible shill status, but it will at least lend credence to your claims.