TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

One more thing that made me believe in him was, when Itold him I was on the other fourm and would be posting good or bad. He asked me to do the same here. Why would he wantanyone to post if he wasn\'t confident in the results? He never offered me anything, not even lunch. If I was scamming someone or an entire gender, the last thing I would do is ask them to tell thier story.

Well I call some people, they could have been plants. I didn\'t think so because the two that sent me pictures you could tell they had something done. Not natural but not deformed. One of the other guys invited me to go see it that was creepy. At this point all I can do is wish for the best. I am ok if the gains don\'t stay as long as everything still works and I don\'t get penis cancer or some shit like that. If the worst thing is I wasted 5k oh well it\'s no a big deal.

Again I will post pictures if I have any change, good or bad.

It doesnt make much sense, Irishfan. Would you care to explain what do you mean by \"if and only if I have a change that stays good or bad\"? Why would you only post pics if there is a change? If Loria\'s procedure has already been carried out, there should be a change already.

Irishfan wrote: If you read all my post you will see that I will, if and only if I have a change that stays good or bad. After 21 days and it\'s back to normal I will not post pic. But I will tell you to save your money if that happens.

I will try to post updates everyday.

Sure, I will explain. It was done 5 days ago. I do have a change as of now. But I am uncertain that the gains will remain. For instance when I measured today it was a bit less than yesterday. If in two weeks all gains are gone and it\'s back to normal, I see no need to post pictures. It seams like some of you just want to see pictures of dicks. I am not a pervert that gets off on putting pictures of my Dick on the Internet unless it would help someone. I hope this clears it up.

\"Irishfan did you get a reason why the thread at pegym was locked? Just curious about that. It does not seem like a forum that is very open minded to surgery in penis enlargment.
kcchief\"

It looks like the original thread was erased but know there are two new ones started by Irishfan on pegym.

I hope he can produce some documentation, so we can put this to rest. I know a copy of the hippa form must be given to the patient by law, so he must have something he can email.

Can you specify what you consider an \'attack\' on Loria\'s work? So far everybody has been very polite and objective in their comments.

You are doing a disservice to yourself (and to Dr Loria, whom you seem to be protecting) by making unsubstantiated claims (i.e., \"attacks,\" calling \'perverts\' anyone who asks you for proof providing pictures).

Irishfan wrote: Also The Dr. Has been in contact and has responded to my text the customer service has been good so far. The Dr.s customer service does not line up with someone who does not care. I do think he cares and I think the atacts against him are baseless at this point. Just my opinion

Given the fact that the pics provided by the previous poster about Dr Loria\'s success procedure has turned to be fake (Bigjunk), we have reasonable doubt about anyone else claiming to have undergone any procedure with him.

Irishfan wrote: I do not recall calling anyone a pervert, I just said I was not. In my months at the PE Gym you see the same people posting pictures of their dicks all the time. And I guess if I was as proud as them Imight want to show it off to. I find it strange that so many people want to see pictures of me when it\'s still in recovery. It\'s like a painter not wanting to show his work before its done.

Hello Irishfan,

Many of us are not happy with Dr Loria, and for good reason. Unfortunately you are also getting much of the backlash which is not fair. For example, Elist patients are not treated like this.

As EQstudent said, we are here to support you. If you have a bad result you get advice from guys here. Although it is not easy silicone can be removed, and there are a few excellent surgeons in the US. Hopefully you will be fine though.

Certainly you got a receipt, after care instructions, or other liability paperwork from Dr L. Why dont you take a picture (with you name covered) and send it to one of the mods. This will protect your privacy and give definitive evidence you are who you are. I believe you, but also I can see how some would be skeptical given all the controversy.

Also I would remind members every time you reference the doctors name in your post you are creating a permanent google searchable link which only potentially gives him a larger potential pool of patients. Unfortunately in PE sometimes bad publicity is good publicity as there is always a small percentage of guys willing to ignore the enormous red flags.

BB

I do not recall calling anyone a pervert, I just said I was not. In my months at the PE Gym you see the same people posting pictures of their dicks all the time. And I guess if I was as proud as them Imight want to show it off to. I find it strange that so many people want to see pictures of me when it\'s still in recovery. It\'s like a painter not wanting to show his work before its done.

@Irishfan

Listen, as Moderators, our hands are tied in protecting you against allegations of shilling, lying, etc, if you aren\'t willing to demonstrate pics.

You have already conceded that you would eventually show pics if the circumstances warranted it. So why not just show pics of your current penis as it currently stands, bruising, wrapping, thickness, and all. To allege we\'re perverts because we want to see evidence doesn\'t help your cause and actually changes my perception of you. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt (even when there has been a shill issue) because of your membership at PEGym, but now I\'m not so sure.

Listen, you are going to have to provide some photos if you wish to continue posting about your journey. You are the first report of its kind, and with the shilling as bad as it has been with this procedure, you are virtually obligated to furnish evidence pronto. Besides, if you wait another 2 weeks and show us your \"After\" photos, we wont know for sure the \"Before\" photos are yours simply because we didn\'t see your penis through the most important phase! We need to see your penis as it stands post-op to verify the legitimacy of your claims.

Our photo uploading is down at this time, but you can email me the photos at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and I can upload them when the system is back up - and I can also vouch for you as well. You must provide some picture evidence to satisfy Rule (R7.) which states: Falsifying information about a surgical method\'s technique, effectiveness, side effects, outcomes, results, success rate, and/or complication rate is wrong and unacceptable. Fictional testimony/reporting of one\'s experience with phalloplasty is also forbidden.

Posting photos wont exonerate you from possible shill status, but it will at least lend credence to your claims.

Irishfan did you get a reason why the thread at pegym was locked? Just curious about that. It does not seem like a forum that is very open minded to surgery in penis enlargment.
kcchief

Also The Dr. Has been in contact and has responded to my text the customer service has been good so far. The Dr.s customer service does not line up with someone who does not care. I do think he cares and I think the atacts against him are baseless at this point. Just my opinion

I thought I would explain what I mean by the flacid look funny when turteled. If you have ever over pumped and a few hours later the penis is puffy and spongy and that on me will usually last several hours. Well that is what it looks like flacid. Erect it is not spongy at all. I hope this will go away when everything is healed. I still have some swelling so I am sure that will subside.

I really don\'t care if anyone thinks I am a shrill. If they read my history on the other fourm they will see how ignorant that is. I am just a desperate guy going through a mid life crisisthat has money to play.

Everyone here wants to see how legitmate Dr. Loria is with his PE procedure. For you to imply that many of us in here are pervs only to want to look at dicks just shows us how immature you are. You do realize why Dr. C or any other PE physician has been successful thus far is because of pictures of dicks. We\'re all adults here, there should no need to be all sensitive if members here are asking for pictures.

IrishfanThe pictures will give us a better understanding of what is happening to your penis and give any prospective patients an understanding of what to expect when they undergo the procedure. It will also go long way in quieting those who believe you may be just a shill.Pictures are worth a thousand words my friend