I was doing some research and found some interesting stuff. I've been looking for a way to soften hard feeling areas of PMMA. I don't have a PMMA but want it. Anyways, histologically I do not know exactly what hardened areas of PMMA are. They could be collections of PMMA beads bonded by collagen. They could be scar tissue. Similarity in breast implants patients there are sometimes complaints of hardening around the implant which is called a 'capsular contracture.' It is supposedly a hardened scar tissue, which after all is collagen, just a more rigid form. Patients with this hardened tissue around breast implants were able to significantly reduce the hardness of the tissue after a several month course of Zafirlukast which is a drug usually prescribed for asthma patients. Supposedly this drug interferes with the immune systems response and prevents it from creating hardened tissue. I don't have the article on hand but if you look up 'capsular contracture zafirlukast' it should pop up on google.
I\'ve felt 2 friends penis\'s in this respect. One was an old friend that had FFT removed over a year ago and went for his first round of PMMA. It\'s been about 5 months now. He went from 4 7/8 to 5 1/2 in that go. He\'s looking for another round.
The other is a transexual friend of mine. She wanted bigger. I don\'t know why because it was a very healthy 5 3/4 to start. But oh well. 2 injections later, \"she\" is 6 5/8. Probably not going back. Actually a bit disappointed with the results. We both feel its not \"natural\".
With my Elist implant, the Flaccid is definitely noticable. But when Erect, it\'s hard to tell. Or at least it was when I had the Large and later the XL implant. Right now I have the XXL. It\'s stupid big and I\'m shocked that I\'ve never been \"called out\" on it. The crazy thing is, I\'m actually waiting for a woman to say something. In any case, I want it removed and am hoping that the \"capsule\" will provide the Girth that I desire (I\'ve had it out breifly before and had very good Girth at the time). Mine is a long story. I\'ll have it posted soon. Point being, at least Erect, the Elist implant feels quite good. The only problem is right behind the glans. That\'s where you can feel the transition. BUT, compared to the PMMA I\'ve felt, it\'s still more realistic. Hey, maybe others have had better results but the 2 I\'ve felt were clearly \"fake\". Mind you, I\'ve had a lot of experience so may be it would be fine in the hands of others. And besides, I really don\'t like a penis in my hand (no offense; I have several gay friends that would disagree!). So maybe I scrutinize more than others .
A well \"crafted\" PMMA penis should be a difficult one to detect. The rubbery-feel is something I\'ve mentioned to describe the Flaccid state, but it isn\'t necessarily detectable to those who are not aware something has been done. It\'s like my Flaccid is just \"tougher\" than before, in a rubbery-sort of way, but not in such a way that warrants alarm or suspicion to the unsuspecting eye/hand.
In the Erect state, in my opinion, it feels nearly 100% natural minus any nodules/irregularities one may experience. The shaft itself seems even firmer than from before PMMA.
Overall, at least in my experiences, I believe that PMMA is remarkable in how well it mimics the penis...soft in the Flaccid, firm in the Erect. But since it\'s a cosmetic augmentation, it should not come as a surprise that there is a palpable nature to the PMMA collagen to the suspecting eye/hand (more specifically in the Flaccid, and only to a certain degree).
I personally disagree with characterizing PMMA as fake-feeling, unless of course you are dealing with a penis with high irregularities. And besides, aren\'t flaccids normally \"squishy?\" Mine was prior to PMMA, and quite frankly, the rubbery-ness has made it slightly less squishy. Are you sure you were feeling PMMA penises?
Sorry. That\'s utter bullshit. The PMMA microspheres are encapsulated by your body\'s own collagen. While higher concentrations (30%+) may feel fake, my experience after two rounds is that it feels almost identical in both the Flaccid and Erect state to my pre PMMA penis. Sorry to disappoint, but I\'m not allowing anyone aside from my wife feel it. Haha. But I feel it everyday and am still shocked by how natural it feels... sensation included. The irregularties I have post Round 2 are extremely minor but I do exhibit the \"gap\" somewhat. This will be addressed during Round 3. It does transition but rather abruptly. Currently 1 month post op, it will also continue to soften. Patience is needed.
I find it hard to believe that PMMA feels fake. I\'ve got a ton of scar tissue and if it wasn\'t for the fact it sticks out in places, I wouldn\'t be able to tell much difference. This idea that PMMA feels fake has only been mentioned in recent weeks. Nothing is going to feel perfectly natural, other than PLGA Scaffolds, but I can\'t see how PMMA could possibly feel like a solid silicone implant or fat. Why has this \"rubbery\" description only just come to light?
MHN wrote: Also, I\'ve now felt 2 PMMA penis\'s (I happen to be involved in an industry that lends itself to PE). Both were done by Dr C. One had 1 fill, the other had two. After several months of settling I can say that... they don\'t feel good. It\'s not \'right\'. Feels fake. Even compared to an Elist implant. They\'re kinda squishy, like FFT, except not as natural feeling. Soft rubber is what comes to mind. Maybe, if you\'ve never felt any other forms of PE surgery, you think it feels natural, but I don\'t think so. You might be able to get away with it but sooner or later, someone will say something. They may not suspect that it\'s fake but you may get a comment like \"why is your penis so squishy?\". Something like that.
I don\'t have it very bad at all. She inspected my Flaccid Dick like a Dick expert. I have never had anyone else even notice a thing. Dr. C and Wade actually are very very very pleased with my results.
It doesn\'t feel or look pumped, I think she probably had an ex that would pump a lot or something and she probably just assumes a big Dick must mean a pumped Dick.
Edit: there is a faint \"ring\" type ridge right at the circ scar and this is what she noticed. Is just a hard ridge where the PMMA reaches the Circumcision area.
Damn....too bad you have that 'ring' any chance of having this fixed? I chose PMMA because i think it is the most stealth PE surgery available. If the girl thought you did pump ( so she knows about pumping and fluid build-up ), there is an aesthetical issue with your penis and you should talk with dr. C about it as a PMMA enhanced penis should NOT look and feel like a pumped penis...
Size: 6.25\" Midshaft Erect Girth
Complainant: Small asian girl (age 26)
I got a message on POF from this Asian chick asking if I wanted to hook up that night... I said sure, she looked hot. Anyway when I got there we had no where to go other than this back ally behind a bar and do it in my car.
We made out and when the Dick comes out, I am about 50% hard (because its a weird situation to say the least... and her words were: \"WHY IS IT SO HUGE?!\"
Me: \"Uhh I am lucky I guess...\"
Her: \"No its so fat, what\'s wrong with it? Did you pump it?\"
Me: \"No, I was born this way.\"
Her (after feeling around, squeezing the \"ring\" of PMMA on the circ-scar line): \"No... what\'s this? Why is this spot harder?\"
Me: \"Its a hardened vein... it happened when I was young...\" I honestly am so kinda balfed that she is inspecting my Dick like this.
Her: \"Why is your skin so thick? You had to have pumped. its weird. Oh my god are you clean?!\"
Me (a little pissed at this point): \"Yes! of course I am!\"
Her: \"Then why is it weird? No one has a Dick this fat...\"
Me (Pissed and just defeated by the situation): \"Alright I pumped last night... now lets f*ck...\"
Her: \"Its not even hard.\"
Me: \"It will get hard, lets make out and it will happen...\" I wanted to say its because you are being such a nosy bitch... but didn\'t...
So the only way I could get hard after all this was if I clamped the base of my Dick with my left hand while I stroked with the right (a Uli for those who know manual PE terms). It got hard, real hard. The problem with this is by Clamping like this my Girth is like 0.3\" thicker than normal. SO, at the moment I would be measuring about 6.6\" Midshaft Girth and over 7\" at the base..
Her: \"HOLY that is HUGE, you shouldn\'t have pumped.\"
I just put the condom on ...
She says she wants it from behind so thats what we do, in the back of my car, in the back parking lot of a dodgy Toronto bar...
Anyway only like 2.5\" fit inside her, 3\" if I really shoved hard. She complained of pain, then she would moan, then complain of pain... This happened for about 10 min. But it was no good for her. Eventually she said to just stop becaue the condom was dry.
The main problem was that I couldnt get hard without Clamping the base... she pissed me off too much and its kinda not a good feeling having someone notice your PMMA
If I could have got a normal hard-on I think the sex would have been a thousand times better... Just SUCKED hard to get called out on my PMMA.
To further the situation a few weeks later I asked if she would like to try again and her responce was that she \"no trust my Dick\" and \"there\'s something wrong with it.\"
So PMMA is not all sunshine and magic. Definitely makes me worry now everytime I whip it out that the chick will notice.
This was posted in more detail in the: \"To those MSEG 5.75 and better\" thread.