TOPIC: PMMA - Best money you ever spent?

I'm now a troll promoting Penumma lmao

Skeptical and a few others I've been speaking to for months now would answer the guy above if I'm a penumma troll indeed. From what I've been reading on reddit, there's some guy with a weird name that seems to have successful records, they have a negative view on ellist too.

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ivan808 wrote: I'm now a troll promoting Penumma lmao

Skeptical and a few others I've been speaking to for months now would answer the guy above if I'm a penumma troll indeed. From what I've been reading on reddit, there's some guy with a weird name that seems to have successful records, they have a negative view on ellist too.

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Ivan808 isn't a troll, I know he means well.

Ivan808, I just think you ought to take my previous advice. I think the troll comment was made by user Hyberbol because you even considered the rigid silicone implant at all. For context, this site has a decade-long history covering the dangers of that surgery. I'm sure you made it out of your frustration with your current situation, which is all the more reason I think you ought to take my last post's advice into strong consideration.

And can I ask what your last text was for? The one that reads: anddontforgettousemycodepenumma2022foraspecialdiscountatdrelliswebsite ?

ivan808 was obviously making a joke about referral codes. Many websites use them, where you would add for example a mobile case to your shopping cart, enter a referral code and get a 5% discount and then the one whose referral code you used earns 5% in commission. Obviously, there are no referral codes for Penuma.

Anyway, in response to ivan808: I think we would really like to help you, and first you need to remind yourself that these kind of procedures have complications. As I often read, there can be some penile retraction, and supposedly it might take a few months for the penis to look longer again. There are also so many factors that can have an effect on the way your penis looks at one given time: underwear, cold water, Erection quality, less blood flow, and so on.

Once you remember these things, you can try to think logically: is it really likely that my penis shrunk so much after I had a procedure that thickens the penis for everyone else? The solution is not to do new injections again and again, but rather that you are aware that the result is not perfect, second that it is unlikely that your result is very bad, and finally it is time to accept the result.

I also had many worries after my procedure, I had some complications, and not everything was satisfying. At times, it is easy to start to imagine things, like that a sudden slight pain is some really ominous sign, or that the penis will get smaller. I know for a fact however that the penis is different now, and for example before I had a lot of Foreskin at the tip, but now the Foreskin does not entirely cover the meatus, and then it might look like the penis has gotten shorter.

These are the kind of complications, worries and changes that one has to deal with. At the same time, I remind myself how many people had the same procedures, and why would I be the one to have some uniquely bad experience? I do not know if my post is helpful, but I hope you will be able to find some kind of balance in your way of thinking, which will make you feel less distraught.

Thanks for your input. I've mentioned that most of my length has returned but I've been noticing a shocking loss of my Girth gains in the past 2 weeks, and that is like 3-4 months post op where I'm not supposed to be losing any more. I hope it's EQ but I noticed in the beginning of this shrinking that my Flaccid started getting thinner. Then the Erect state followed. Now that I think of it, maybe my gains weren't so terrible at one point but you seem to appreciate things when you lose them. I don't know if Viagra will help to get to my 100% EQ because you need to be turned on to see the effects if I'm not wrong and when I'm in a state of depression for my size I have very low libido. And to skeptical, me talking about penuma likely reveals how desperate I really am. I went to the reddit and most have had a very big increase in Girth but very few gained length which I think shows that their advertising is BS because before digging into real stories I thought you gain 1-2'' of length too and it seems like very few gain anything.

ivan808 wrote: Thanks for your input. I've mentioned that most of my length has returned but I've been noticing a shocking loss of my Girth gains in the past 2 weeks, and that is like 3-4 months post op where I'm not supposed to be losing any more. I hope it's EQ but I noticed in the beginning of this shrinking that my Flaccid started getting thinner. Then the Erect state followed. Now that I think of it, maybe my gains weren't so terrible at one point but you seem to appreciate things when you lose them. I don't know if Viagra will help to get to my 100% EQ because you need to be turned on to see the effects if I'm not wrong and when I'm in a state of depression for my size I have very low libido. And to skeptical, me talking about penuma likely reveals how desperate I really am. I went to the reddit and most have had a very big increase in Girth but very few gained length which I think shows that their advertising is BS because before digging into real stories I thought you gain 1-2'' of length too and it seems like very few gain anything.

If it is really true that you had a shocking decrease in thickness, then where did the PMMA go? It cannot disappear, so it means it would have moved elsewhere in the body, and based on what I read about PMMA this is extremely unlikely.

What is more likely is like you say that you are depressed, causing a very low libido, and of course you will not have good erections then. Does it not make a lot more sense than the PMMA having somehow "disappeared"?

And about Penuma: everything I read about it is bad, including everything about silicone in the penis, no matter if it is an implant or injected into the penis.

Even with the most disastrous methods, you might have a good result initially, before it turns into a disaster. Silicone, paraffin and oil might look good before it turns into an inevitable disaster.

That kind of silicone implant is just not good. It has been around long enough, with so much negative publicity, so it is a fact that it is simply not a choice to even consider.

Because you have had PMMA, any other procedure is probably ruled out, but theoretically you could have considered something else like AlloDerm before having had PMMA.

However, the issue of a lack of Girth increase with PMMA simply cannot be the case. Again, there must be another reason, most likely the low libido that you mentioned. You are depressed and stressed, and your erections are not good, so it looks like your Girth has decreased, but this is not the case.

ivan808 wrote: I actually wish I had done Penumma. You get a 2'' Girth increase and not-very-big chances of more length, but still an option and at least the Girth is there and won't just vanish into thin air. Oh, and you instantly go to a shower... (I am aware of some of the cases about it here , the ones on reddit are different so I guess I've had a 50-50 chance of success there).

Here's the thing about the Penuma subreddit: anyone who gets their implant removed has their post removed from the sub. Because, you see, it's a forum for people who have the Penuma, not people who had it removed, there's a separate forum for that (r/penumaproblems). If you ignore all the times it goes horribly wrong, the Penuma works great every time!

otis wrote:

ivan808 wrote: I actually wish I had done Penumma. You get a 2'' Girth increase and not-very-big chances of more length, but still an option and at least the Girth is there and won't just vanish into thin air. Oh, and you instantly go to a shower... (I am aware of some of the cases about it here , the ones on reddit are different so I guess I've had a 50-50 chance of success there).

Here's the thing about the Penuma subreddit: anyone who gets their implant removed has their post removed from the sub. Because, you see, it's a forum for people who have the Penuma, not people who had it removed, there's a separate forum for that (r/penumaproblems). If you ignore all the times it goes horribly wrong, the Penuma works great every time!

I read their Reddit group for a while, and it is scary how convincing and legit everything seems, just like the website of Elist. It is like another "world".

There is even a doctor writing there who basically claims that Penuma surgeons are leading in the world, and he warned about how irresponsible other surgeons are for performing other surgeries instead of Penuma. According to him, 150 Penuma surgeries are performed each month.

He wrote that unlike him, those other surgeons not doing Penuma are not urologists, and being plastic surgeons they perform dangerous and supposedly prohibited surgeries.

Specifically he mentioned Ligamentolysis, saying that it is a very dangerous surgery. The impression conveyed is that if something is not dangerous, then it is far inferior to Penuma.

I think the biggest proof that Penuma is not good is that it is not routinely performed around the world, and not only that, but it seems every other surgeon who had something to say about it said that a silicone implant is a very bad idea.

If it was good, it would be performed in Europe, Korea, Australia, and not just by those few surgeons in the USA.

Duplicating a silicone implant would be very easy too. I saw one website of a clinic in India that claimed to offer such a silicone implant made in India, so of course they could have invented their own silicone implant in for example Korea, if it was truly a good solution.

There was a popular singer from my country who claimed to have gotten an implant (like 10 years ago) and claiming to have gone to 10''. Never mentioned the name or where he got it. Since then, I've done my research and my thoughts are he's lying because penuma is the only 'implant' I found about and we know what it's like. The other ones are basically for ED and they don't provide any gains. So correct me if I'm wrong but there isn't anything one can do about length surgery-wise? Obviously ligamentosys or whatever it's called that basically adds something to your Flaccid but very rarely anything to the BPEL.

Plenty of people here have gained from a lig surgery. Whether or not it was as much as they wanted , or whether they realistic expectations is another story. Please read more.

Also, it is CLEARLY RECOMMENDED by the surgeons who perform this procedure to hang and or stretch after wards. In addition to this, it has more than well documented on this board and many others that Hanging and stretching WILL produce length gains if you put in the work. So decide on what work you are willing to put in.

I am tempted to close this thread as it has now deviated so far from the OP's original question and basically been Hijacked ! Please start your thread in the future.