TOPIC: PMMA - Best money you ever spent?

To anyone who’s done PMMA… do you have any regrets from going through with the procedure?

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Contrary to the popular opinion, I'm always the black sheep, I regret it. Lost length and the Girth I've gained hasn't stopped vanishing for months. If I had to guess, I haven't gained more than 0.2''. Obviously, a fair amount of money lost too which I would have never minded if I had a good result. I'm not surprised because that's how it usually goes for me in life. Saw some people have their life transformed after this and going from average / below average Joes to being called big, sometimes even too thick to fit. I went in with high expectations which is my fault. I wanna do a 2nd and 3rd round but I'm very discouraged by my first one so still thinking. And to the op, odds are you won't be in my boat if you do it. I'm likely cursed to die with a shrimp between my legs.

@ivan808 Why don't you go have a consult with Dr Carney in Atlanta or one of the premier guys in California and see what they can do for you for length ? Im not sure if you are hanging much since your procedure, But even that alone can and does produce gains. I would seriously consider this - and a lot of it !!! There have been plenty of people that lost some length temporarily after a girth procedure and re-gained it with hanging and stretching.
As for losing girth from a filler procedure - i have literally never heard of this. @Skeptical_One Have you ?

No, no. I'm losing some of my GAINS, not original Girth. I'm thicker than pre-op. Researched length thoroughly and the only thing out there is ligamenthosis or whatever it's called which is basically. just enlarging your Flaccid for almost everyone. It's actually ridiculous, I'll tell you a story.

Was masturbating in front of the mirror last week and I thought to myself, damn, why is this mirror trying to deceive me because looking at my thing from that angle I looked pretty nice, even ''big'' if you like. THEN, I look at it without the mirror and it's suddenly a drastic change in thoughts. My thoughts went from ''big'' to ''small'', not even ''average'' but small. I really don't know what's the real deal about it and I'm a virgin so I can't really ask a woman what the reality is. I've just been re-reading Jacks10's legendary thread on here. The pics look so similar to my case (until round two). When he's taking a picture of it while sitting down it looks small. If he goes to the mirror and takes a pic, it looks big. He says at that size he felt big with his wife, something my virgin brain can't comprehend because both of us look the same by his 2nd session pics and any other angle apart from the mirror looks small. And the mirror looks big.

I'm not there but what do you guys think about 6/6.5 for a size? I want a realistic opinion, not telling me what I want to hear if that's not the truth of course. And yes, I'm quite aware that this would be a slightly above average length and a 0.1% Girth. I'm talking about putting that thing in practice.

I had three rounds over several months and I don’t regret it a bit. It’s been a confidence game changer in virtually every area of my life, which I wasn’t expecting. Sex is great. I don’t regret anything. I only wish I had known about it sooner.

ivan808 wrote: No, no. I'm losing some of my GAINS, not original Girth. I'm thicker than pre-op. Researched length thoroughly and the only thing out there is ligamenthosis or whatever it's called which is basically. just enlarging your Flaccid for almost everyone. It's actually ridiculous, I'll tell you a story.

Was masturbating in front of the mirror last week and I thought to myself, damn, why is this mirror trying to deceive me because looking at my thing from that angle I looked pretty nice, even ''big'' if you like. THEN, I look at it without the mirror and it's suddenly a drastic change in thoughts. My thoughts went from ''big'' to ''small'', not even ''average'' but small. I really don't know what's the real deal about it and I'm a virgin so I can't really ask a woman what the reality is. I've just been re-reading Jacks10's legendary thread on here. The pics look so similar to my case (until round two). When he's taking a picture of it while sitting down it looks small. If he goes to the mirror and takes a pic, it looks big. He says at that size he felt big with his wife, something my virgin brain can't comprehend because both of us look the same by his 2nd session pics and any other angle apart from the mirror looks small. And the mirror looks big.

I'm not there but what do you guys think about 6/6.5 for a size? I want a realistic opinion, not telling me what I want to hear if that's not the truth of course. And yes, I'm quite aware that this would be a slightly above average length and a 0.1% Girth. I'm talking about putting that thing in practice.

I think it is like you said that it comes down a lot to expectations for some people. Some people have huge expectations, and it seems that you are not happy with your penis, so even what is considered a "normal" gain might not be sufficient for you. There are some people who think their penis is very small, but actually the size is above average, then they go from above average to "big", and they still think their penis is small.

I did not have PMMA, but I had dermal fat graft and Ligamentolysis almost 4 months ago. I was quite content with my size before, but I wanted it to be thicker, and Ligamentolysis to make it longer was an added bonus. For me the worst thing after the surgery has been the worry. There are always many thoughts going around in my mind, for example: what if the dermal fat graft will die? What if my penis will shrink?

And because I developed Phimosis after the procedure, I could not do any stretching. It has gotten much better now with the Phimosis, but I still cannot retract the Foreskin smoothly during Erection. At first I could not retract it all, then I could retract it when the penis was Flaccid, and now I can retract the Foreskin slowly during Erection. I have been doing stretching these past few days, but it is hard to get used to it. At the same time, I worry it might worsen the Phimosis, and it seems to cause some pain when using the traction device. I also worry however that if I do not use it that the penis will start retracting and shrink.

So in retrospect: I would say it was not worth it for me. The penis is thicker, yes! Longer when Flaccid? I am unsure. Maybe slightly longer during Erection. The cons: the worry, complications (Phimosis), and third the insane amount of time and effort needed to use a penile traction device. If not using it: there might be no gains, but far worse is the fear that the penis might actually retract.

Texas wrote: @ivan808
As for losing girth from a filler procedure - i have literally never heard of this. @Skeptical_One Have you ?

As for medical-grade PMMA, no I have not seen any substantiated reports of significant girth loss. The reason I mention "significant" is because there may be other factors at play, ones which are considerably more plausible in instances where minor losses are believed to have been witnessed. Here are 3 plausible reasons why someone may think they've lost some girth:

(1) Atrophy of your actual penis due to age or injury (it has been reported that aging can contribute to penile & testicular size loss).
(2) Some sort of condition known to create deficit in girth like Peyronie's Disease.
(3) Misreading or erroneous measurements. This can also happen post-op when someone measures with residual swelling only to be disappointed with later readings. Or the comparison measurements may just end up being human error (this in my opinion are the most likely factor if someone were to claim they were losing permanent filler). We have a habit of trying to squeeze out an extra fraction-of-an-inch on the ruler, do we really trust ourselves to be scientists 100% of the time?

Until someone can point out some bodily process in which PMMA (and its related collagen) can feasibly disappear, I'll remain skeptical.

Oh in addition to my last post, a 4th explanation is worth considering as well: Erection quality. Obviously this applies only to Erect Girth measurements, but I know from personal experience that this can skew readings. On my best day, I'm as thick as I've ever been and I'm over 10 years out, but I've had instances where it appeared to feel thinner than normal. In hindsight, Erection quality was the culprit.

I'm having a little debate with myself here - would you guys say a 7/6.5 is a monstercock (IN REALITY, not in porn definition)? Obviously someone with that size in porn would be considered big but not monster but I'm thinking about reality which is very different from porn...

This length is almost 2 inches bigger than the avg and the Girth...... way way way bigger than the average. What makes that size fall into the ''monstercock'' category in my opinion is the thickness which according to stats is like 0.01% or even less. Combined with a Girth of that capacity...?

Using the popular size calculator, you get this:

Longer than 98.91% of people (7 in 1000 would be longer than you)
Thicker than 99.99% of people (0 in 1000 would be thicker than you)
Volume - 99.99% (0 in 1000 would be bigger)

Very few people have done PMMA or do PE overall and outside our communities, it must be incredibly hard to find someone bigger.

I just put a 6/6.5 in the stats calculator and it says volume-wise in a room of 1000, only 1 would be bigger overall. Are you trying to tell me if I get 2 more procedures done and estimate the avg result of 0.5 per round, I'd be bigger volume-wise than 999 out of 1000? I've seen some people say volume is what truly maters, the combination of both sizes but I still find my length miserable. I haven't had any sexual intercourses but legendary Jacks10 who achieved a 6/6.5 and goes to sex parties, does swinging etc says he's getting size compliments all the time. Haven't measured recently but I'd estimate with a 100% EQ I'd be around 6/5.5 at the moment. Looks shocking if I look at it while laying on the bed, looks very nice if I look at it in the mirror. I know I'm overthinking it, I know I have a very severe case of size dysmorphia but my size is the reason I haven't had sex in 23 years on this planet. Pretty hard to believe that I can be bigger volume-wise than 99% of the population in just a few months. Would like to hear everyone's honest thoughts on this, wouldn't like to receive fake encouragement because we're in a place like this, wouldn't like to be called dysmorphic and crazy because I already know I am. Would like to hear exactly what everyone thinks about a 6/6.5 for a size. If someone is around that, please do let us know what sex looks like now, what your partners have to say and how you feel about it.

Absolutely. It’s one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. The confidence helps with so much more than just sex. When I walk into a room, I know I’m almost certainly the biggest guy around. When I’m with a new girl, I know I’ll be the biggest she’s ever had.

ivan808 wrote: I'm having a little debate with myself here - would you guys say a 7/6.5 is a monstercock (IN REALITY, not in porn definition)? Obviously someone with that size in porn would be considered big but not monster but I'm thinking about reality which is very different from porn...

This length is almost 2 inches bigger than the avg and the Girth...... way way way bigger than the average. What makes that size fall into the ''monstercock'' category in my opinion is the thickness which according to stats is like 0.01% or even less. Combined with a Girth of that capacity...?

Using the popular size calculator, you get this:

Longer than 98.91% of people (7 in 1000 would be longer than you)
Thicker than 99.99% of people (0 in 1000 would be thicker than you)
Volume - 99.99% (0 in 1000 would be bigger)

Very few people have done PMMA or do PE overall and outside our communities, it must be incredibly hard to find someone bigger.

I just put a 6/6.5 in the stats calculator and it says volume-wise in a room of 1000, only 1 would be bigger overall. Are you trying to tell me if I get 2 more procedures done and estimate the avg result of 0.5 per round, I'd be bigger volume-wise than 999 out of 1000? I've seen some people say volume is what truly maters, the combination of both sizes but I still find my length miserable. I haven't had any sexual intercourses but legendary Jacks10 who achieved a 6/6.5 and goes to sex parties, does swinging etc says he's getting size compliments all the time. Haven't measured recently but I'd estimate with a 100% EQ I'd be around 6/5.5 at the moment. Looks shocking if I look at it while laying on the bed, looks very nice if I look at it in the mirror. I know I'm overthinking it, I know I have a very severe case of size dysmorphia but my size is the reason I haven't had sex in 23 years on this planet. Pretty hard to believe that I can be bigger volume-wise than 99% of the population in just a few months. Would like to hear everyone's honest thoughts on this, wouldn't like to receive fake encouragement because we're in a place like this, wouldn't like to be called dysmorphic and crazy because I already know I am. Would like to hear exactly what everyone thinks about a 6/6.5 for a size. If someone is around that, please do let us know what sex looks like now, what your partners have to say and how you feel about it.

You seem like a person who might be devastated if you had any complications, and you should know that there are many such cases on this board. PMMA is certainly not without risks. How would you cope with it if you had complications? And with PMMA, the complications are not easy to resolve.

As a responsible community, I feel it is prudent we warn people when a certain procedure might be too risky for them to be acceptable. Your stated goal seems to be for your penis to be bigger than 99% of people on this planet. What would happen then if you had complications instead?

Here is what one study found: "Casavantes et al reported a mean increase of 3.5 cm in penile Girth up to 7 years post-PMMA microsphere injection. This was accompanied with high satisfaction rates (N = 168, 83%), but also a high rate of complications. Over half of the patients reported irregularities of the implant such as nodules, hard ridges, and indentations, and 3 patients (0.4%) required surgical Removal of nodules."

My complications are a lot more severe than nodules or similar. My gained Girth keeps diminishing 4+ months after the procedure. On top, I had also lost length, think that has come back or at least most. I saw my penis even thinner than it was the day before last week and I was shocked. I haven't masturbated ever since, I don't touch it or look at it at all even when I pee. Today, the rush to relieve myself took over. I had big difficulties getting a hard on. And after lots of sweat, I managed to get a miserable Erection and I was even thinner. It was looking like the state it was pre op. This horrified me and put me into a deep state of depression. Sure, my EQ is miserable but I've had similar cases weeks/months ago where even in these scenarios it wasn't as thin as it was today.

So after my first session of PMMA, I have to say this is the worst money I've ever spent. It's fuelled my size dysmorphia 10x and made me $6k-ish poorer. I don't even care about the money but my success has been shocking. It's just not fair. I'm quite convinced I have the worst penis in the world outside of those with micropenis sizes. I will still do what's in my capabilities and go for 2 more sessions. A month after the last one, I will begin heavy Hanging. In my mind, I've set a date of Halloween 2023 where my penis is either fixed to an at least good-to-use size or I'll... yeah, that, the very last resort, I won't name it. I refuse to go on with this thing in my pants. I refuse to continue being a virgin at my age because I'm embarrassed at what I've got to offer women. I refuse to be so damn depressed about it that I can't even look at it or touch it. I also have to note I'm a hardcore 'Grower' so another horrible thing. When you're not at your miserable Erection state, you 100% feel like you have a micropenis at all times. Those who don't have this won't know. I remember Jacks10 saying his wife called him mr 3 Balls when he had a similar experience. I have this at all times. I actually wish I had done Penumma. You get a 2'' Girth increase and not-very-big chances of more length, but still an option and at least the Girth is there and won't just vanish into thin air. Oh, and you instantly go to a shower... (I am aware of some of the cases about it here , the ones on reddit are different so I guess I've had a 50-50 chance of success there). Not an option anymore though since I f'd myself with PMMA. I feel like I was injected with one of the temporary fillers like Ellanse but those last years and my ''super gains'' lasted like 2 months.

I genuinely hope this post won't be removed because it doesn't match with the general mood on here. I appreciate that I'll either get delusional support such as: ''size doesn't matter''. ''I was your size 10 years ago and I had no problems'' ''it's just in your head, you have body dysmorphia'' or I'll simply get hate for voicing a different experience to the pink reality here. This isn't meant to discourage others as you likely won't have the shocking genetics that I do and it's likelier you fall in the other category with people having their lives changed after this to the better. It's looking more and more likely that I'll lay 6ft deep with a small penis, one that I have allowed to completely ruin my life. My other option is to act like 95% of the men with similar sizes outside of this forum that don't mind going inside a woman with the shrimps between their legs, not even thinking for a second why she doesn't enjoy it, why she tries to fake orgasms or why she doesn't call back ever again. I'm probably 5.5x5.5 on my best day because I remember someone asked a while ago. Yes, I do know that will be acceptable somewhere in Southern Asia.

It's crazy there are still trolls on here trying to promote Penumma.

Hyperbol wrote: It's crazy there are still trolls on here trying to promote Penumma.

There is literally a topic in the General Forum regarding the impending judgment of the medical license of Dr. Elist and his flawed penuma device... the fact that anyone would utter they "wished" they got it is reckless at best... however to each their own (I suppose).

With all due respect @ivan808 looking at your posting history it doesn't appear you've started a progress report on your case incident. It would have been very helpful to the community to share with us your issues and grievances, and I encourage you to start NOW rather than waiting on your subsequent appointments - I think it would not only be fair to your own story, but the topic in general.

Dermal filler enhancement is a multi-stage process, often requiring a total of 2 to 3 appointments to achieve both size and aesthetics. If you find yourself too hypercritical of your size (so much that you compare your results to a micro-penis), then you may want to get the bare minimum and move on, since I'm afraid no kind of phalloplasty will work. Especially given your comments about the penuma, I'm afraid you may not be the best candidate for these type of enhancements. My sincere recommendation would be to get your aesthetic irregularities smoothed out, don't go for anymore girth, and retire from male enhancement altogether. Take whatever girth you do manage to gain as a victory and move on.

I say this sincerely, given your past comment.