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18 Apr 2024 01:36
I think the root of my paranoia is not knowing how forceful I should have been trying to mold the PMMA to keep it from donuting around the glands due to retraction. I don't retract much, but enough that you can see it bulge up. Since it was stressed that I need to massage it hourly and try to keep the PMMA even in the shaft, I fear I was too forceful and possibly pushed it into my testies, although I'm not 100% sure how that could have occurred, just a paranoia.

To add a little context, the day after my procedure I would use the pin they give you to move the PMMA around with like a rolling pin and stretched my penis out on the bathroom counter at the hotel. I would then attempt to roll the PMMA even, primarily pulling it from the glands and attempting to push it towards the base. I wasn't sure if the pressure would tear the skin inside and squirt it into my testies and pubic mound.

I tried squeezing the bulge in the testies and it does go away for like 5 minutes then it comes right back, which I guess would suggest more fluid than PMMA but they are extremely red, irritated, and formed something like almost looks like a 3rd ball in the center.

I just got home and showed my wife, and she thought that the ball in the center was my testicle.

Well, as a piece of mind I googled scrotum tuck procedures which appears to be a thing, so hopefully I don't have to, but if I need to I assume I can get my scrotum corrected at a later time.
18 Apr 2024 00:43

Dream wrote: "I’ve had sex at both, 5.5” and 6.25”" (an d 4.5'') Apollore

Would be very very interested in how women reacted to this 2 sizes! (or 3 sizes!), would appreciate you expanding on this.
Like just from looking/comments or differrences in vaginal (and or anal).
(I wrote about my experiences with different sizes in this thread:
phalloboards.info/forum/progress-reports...r-dr-n.html?start=75
and a relevant thread: phalloboards.info/forum/lust-love-vanity...like-them-to-be.html )

Buttercups2 "I've had the most bizarre adventure with penile enhancement." i would be very interested in what your experiences were with different sizes


My experiences with 4.5" girth was the majority of my life before PMMA - I never had any complaints, but definitely no "WOW" comments either lol. I always have treated sex as making sure the other woman was taken care of - so I concentrated (and still do) on foreplay especially myself going down first. But I always wanted to be bigger - mostly for my own self esteem

Fast forward to 5.5" girth and even 5.75" with cock ring this last year - I definitely have had a lot more "You're thick" "You fill me up" "Your dick is perfect" and this is when the trouble with oral sex came into play - way less deep throating and anal never being a thing - not that it's something I've particularly cared for. But overall, the sex is definitely been better and women absolutely love it. It's 100% been a self esteem booster

When I pump to 6.25", I have had comments such as, "It's so big" "You were born like this?" "That's a tree trunk" "You're going to need to be gentle" "You're going to destroy me" Just to name several lol.. The sex is still great and no one has had any issues besides maybe only being able to go one round, but I find this to be rare. What I think actually matters more than size most of the time is EQ. The P Shot given to me at Avanti is so beneficial for my erection quality that I may ask for 2 this time or I may just get them twice a year.


Therefore, this round 3 decision really is solely an ego boost for myself when I firmly believe I can say that I am done with additional procedures. As Buttercup said, size really only matters to guys. A woman can cheat on you regardless of penis size. What matters more is how you treat them and how you take care of them in bed. But I agree penile anxiety and insecurity is a real thing - which is why were here and I am very grateful to have found this forum years ago before deciding PMMA and Avanti Derma was the place for me. If I can get to 6" after this round 3, I'll be satisfied. I already am a lot more confident and feel better about my size now after 2 rounds. I will log a progress report when that round is scheduled - sometime around late May. Appreciate everyone in this community!!
17 Apr 2024 22:43

ou812 wrote: I guess it may depend on the doctor you see but the Phalback owner wasn't recommending this for anyone with filler, for fear of causing migration. Maybe that is less of an issue with PMMA vs HA.


A lot of guys with PMMA pump, so I don't think it should be an issue, and they are probably being extra cautious since it is relatively new and any studies on its use with things like PMMA and Ellanse are likely non-existent. If this is remarkably effective for work, I'm willing to sign a waiver to see if they'll let me try, assuming I can find a tube that can tolerate my base girth lol.
17 Apr 2024 21:24
Hey,
I am not a doctor and I didn't experience that side effect before so take what I say with a grain of salt.

I would guess that since your phallus has been through a unique experience it is probably swelling. In particular if you keep massaging the area too vigorously you could be keeping it inflamed. So I would leave it alone or ice it and see if it reduces.

To be on the safe side maybe reach out to the staff there and see what they say. I don't think PMMA transit is a thing to worry about. I suppose in theory an injection could have missed the right tissue location - but this would be like getting hit by Lighting and I think it would be easy to fix if that did happen. PMMA is safe in your body so long as it isn't sitting in an artery etc. so there isn't much to worry about.

Good luck keep us looped in
17 Apr 2024 19:25

uncuthero wrote: wifi is good in the hotel and for the next few weeks dont even think about the gym focus on keeping it stretched and use heat to remove swelling thats it chill out walk around and heal


Thanks @uncuthero . Really just trying to stave off the inevitable boredom but if I can at least walk around, I’ll do that.

Yup wrote: When can you switch from the stretcher that @Avanti_Derma gives patients to something like the Apex extender using a vac cup?


@Yup
the Penimaster attaches at the glans only so it’s good to go, though I may be using the ADS Avanti provides (actually I bought one to get conditioned to it) since the Utmost package includes glans enhancement and the Penimaster cup may be irritating. Apex + generic glans cup attached via sleeve is probably a no go for immediate postcare since the sleeves attach to the shaft. My guess is that you’ll be able to use it again after the 6 week mark when the PMMA is considered mostly settled but would check with Avanti to verify.
17 Apr 2024 19:03
When can you switch from the stretcher that @Avanti_Derma gives patients to something like the Apex extender using a vac cup?
17 Apr 2024 18:58
wifi is good in the hotel and for the next few weeks dont even think about the gym focus on keeping it stretched and use heat to remove swelling thats it chill out walk around and heal
17 Apr 2024 17:21
Alright Brothers in Gains,

Next Monday I’ll be headed to TJ for Round 1 of Linnea (Utmost package). The excitement and anxiousness is definitely heightened and I want to be sure I’ve packed everything for my 4 day trip. Would appreciate input on any good-to-haves.

Tools
-Tailors tape
-Ruler
-Infrared heat pad
-Penimaster Pro extender and ADS belt

Meds and Supplements
-Cialis
-Prefilled syringes for TRT
-Collagen supp
-Other scripts and typical supplement stack

Travel misc
-Passport
-TSA card
-cash for shuttle service

I’ll be working remotely so I’ll have my work computer. Is the wifi at The Grande decent?

Should I be bring gym clothes or is that a pipe dream and I should expect to be holed up in my hotel room?
17 Apr 2024 15:59
Yours look wider most of my girth is on up and down not the sides. My width is not like yours so you look huge compared to me. Im trying to recover length so my girth isn't bigger than my length either way pmma changed my life
17 Apr 2024 15:39
Avanti Derma suggest using the stretcher for 6 to 8 weeks after pmma because this is the period during which collagen is formed.
17 Apr 2024 15:20
I agree with @Buttercups2 . If these imperfections are just bothering you, I would think twice about it. It can't be perfect while flaccid AND erect. If you add more pmma to make the base wider while erect, you need to keep in mind that your flaccid state might look a little bit more plump or larger at the base too and you might not like it.
17 Apr 2024 15:12
Voluma vs Versa

The studies to obtain FDA approval for Voluma were done in the cheek and for Revanesse Versa in the nasolabial lines but I think we can infer that the fillers are likely to last roughly the same amount of time when use in the penis.

This is from the package insert for both medications:

Juvéderm Voluma™ Xc

-Extended Duration of Benefits- Juvéderm Voluma™ Xc stands out for its long-lasting effectiveness, documented to provide significant and sustained benefits up to 24 months post-treatment. This demonstrates that it can maintain good correction for up to two years.

- 86.6% improvement at 9 months.
- 85.2% improvement at 12 months.
- 71.5% improvement at 18 months.
- 67.1% improvement at 24 months.

Revanesse® Versa™

- Limited Long-Term Effectiveness Without Retreatments: Revanesse® Versa™ has shown sustained effectiveness up to one year post-initial treatment but requires a retreatment at 6 months to achieve this.
-The retreatment study for Revanesse® Versa™ showed: Continuous improvement up to 52 weeks, but only in patients who were retreated at 6 months.

Comparative Analysis

Juvéderm Voluma noted for its superior long-term efficacy, demonstrating sustained volume correction for two years without the need for retreatment during this period.

Revanesse® Versa while effective required an additional treatment at 6 months to maintain improvement over a year.

Although there is no head to head study I feel Voluma is likely to last about twice a s long as Versa.
17 Apr 2024 13:47
I guess it may depend on the doctor you see but the Phalback owner wasn't recommending this for anyone with filler, for fear of causing migration. Maybe that is less of an issue with PMMA vs HA.
17 Apr 2024 12:43
I think i will become the guinea pig who will post a 60 day everyday pictures before and afters with this device i got the disposable to buy this let me knoe if u like the idea of someone with multiple rounds of pmma using this
17 Apr 2024 10:03
@Dr_Sullivan ,
Does Voluma last longer than Revanesse Versa?
Thanks
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