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@eqstudent
My false body image was acquired by frequent beatings in childhood accompanied by \"belittling\" insults about my penis size and shape. It took years to overcome but the love of quite a few good women proved otherwise. Nonetheless an insecurity persists and gets exacerbated by circumstance from time to time. Fortunately no women had the cruelty to remark about this, although a few did make it clear that their new boyfriend they had dumped me for has \"something\" special far better than me and I each time sensed that this was physical yet they were neither smart nor handsome. Body image is not false. It is a real image. The reasons for its existence may not be valid yet the image remains real. It takes a very real reason for this image to change.
@Skeptical One
I have noted in my own psychology that part of my PE effort is a sort of adolescent \"Initiation Rite\". My father was a quite large shower porn movie sized, with my brother following not so far behind. Next to them I remained permanently entrenched in boyhood and I guess that\'s why I used that term in the title of my PMMA progress report thread. My impression is that after PE my physical image will be that of a man instead of the one frozen in time of a boy. This is important to me even though I\'m way past that age. I see it as a path to delivery from entrapment in boyhood by the male rituals of society.
@mikehok
Perception and delusion are interesting territory to explore. What is usually called delusion is when we perceive something differently than the majority of others. If you are a short Corsican from a modest family and you fancy yourself master of the world, everyone will agree you are delusional. But if you perceive the exact same thing and your name happens to be Napoleon then all of a sudden you have perceived your exceptional destiny as a great man, no delusion there as all agree. By the same token of you are small but there is a consensus that as long as penetration is possible size doesn\'t matter, then you are delusional to think you are \"too small\". But if you are small and it can be established that most women prefer more girth, then the consensus will be that your perception is accurate and that you might be happier with a girth enhancement procedure. Breast implants followed the same dictate of consensus, earlier it was considered to be misplaced self-image when a flat chested woman wanted normal boobs: she was delusional. Today it is considered a valid perception of stereotypical normalcy to aspire to huge boobies no matter what your starting cup size might be: not delusional but simply a legitimate choice to customize one\'s physical attractiveness and feel good about oneself. PhalloPlasty is far from the maturity of that example, few speak of it because \"everyone knows\" that size doesn\'t matter and to obsess over it is delusional.
HC

Thanks dd71
I may be wrong but I\'m under the impression Artefill doesn\'t come in 10% concentration. It\'s either 20 or 30% from memory. I have a feeling Dr C may have a bias against it maybe for that reason, especially since they seem to be moving toward recommending the 10%.
anyway sorry to hijack Sizemic log !

@ EQ lol I thought that to myself(that I would just be redirected to that asshole dr) but hes not in the same city,nor does that dr specialize in HIV facial wasting reconstuction. Also if I go with pmma and feel that artefill is a totally superior product, I will have NO PROBLEM spending the extra cash. For peace of mind and a bigger dick= priceless.

@mikehok your welcome bud, and I will share the info with the entire forum once I get it to clarify the question marks with New Plastic. Not to Praise any DRs, but IMHO I have total faith of the integrity of wade and Dr.C. I called under a false name to see if any of their stories would change when I asked an array of questions. Im telling you guys he didnt change a single word of detail when descibing the product/complications/and past procedures. I know that might not seem like a big deal to some of you out there....but when people lie or mislead in any way, stories def change.

Going the 10% route is def what I intend to do if I choose New plastic or Artefill. It just makes sense.BTW mike I dont think anyone questions your integrity here, you have paid your dues and earned your stripes on this forum. Your a big help when talking about your past experiances and vast knowledge regarding PE surgerys. Cheers Mate!

actually you are more like sparticus than skeptical !

@mikehok - nothing of the sort, just reacting to you calling me cynical when you have made cynical comments about most doctor's quotes posted on this forum. I guess I am skeptical and want to see all the background data and studies before I draw any conclusion. Oops, that name is already taken!

what are you suggesting , I work for dr c, what a joke !
If you read back through the large thread on the old forum you will see I was anti pmma at first and very sceptical. My view gradually changed.

@mikehok - I believe I am cautious and want to see the data. You seem cynical, posting a negative comment on almost every doctor's quote except for one. Interesting!

eq you have to be about the most cynical person on this board , lol
Anyway dd71 thanks for that, it\'s interesting to hear they are trying to steer people towards 10%, that was my thinking all along. You can always add more but you can\'t take away.
Look forward to the report.

@ Dd71

Yeah...I admit it I am a little crap on that side of things. My office is open plan in my house and I have a big familly with Wife 3 kids, grand mother every other day and of course...The Spanish cleaner lol so my \'getting hard and taking pictures of myself time is a little restricted !\'

I will get to it but it wont be HD epic journey like sizemic and EP!

I wanted to take a picture before my stage 2 and I have a picture from before the the first time.

I figured I would post them together so there would be an before and after.

Re FFT mix really a non event I think. I can see the fft absorbing and I think thats why my measurements are changing. Any unevenness is where the FFT is not the PMMA. In fact my penis looks much better and smoother now than before. I certainly wouldnt recommend doing both as the two compounds are different. That said my final result at stage three will according to DR C be exactly the same as if I had been without FFT so if you have FFT and its a good job IE it doesnt need removing then no need to wait for it to absorb before you start PMMA.

@Dd71 - Thanks for the research. I am certainly encouraged that Dr. C continues to refine his process. If 10% in multiple stages is better than that is good news.

I look forward to seeing the data from the study, hopefully the doctor from florida was not the same bullshit doctor you contacted recently.

I think it is very smart of Dr C to let his patient choose the PMMA product that the patient is most comfortable with. It is very clear that Dr C is likely the most experienced penis injector on the planet currently. If a patient wants to pay more for material that the patient believes is better, great. It will only increase his business. The way I look at it is the difference in price between Artefill and NewPlastic is way smaller than what I will spend on a new car this year. I care about my unit and my long term health way more than I care about my car! To Dr C it may be frivolous, to me it is not!

For me, \"nearly as pure as\" is like saying a condom will stop nearly all the sperm. For what is worth people have been quoting very low risk rates for things granuloma that is only applicable to Artefill not to NewPlastic. Hoperfully we will get data for NewPlastic and not continue to mix them together!

@EQ&SIZE I spoke to wade yesterday and they are becoming adamant about only using 10% concentration. They say that they dont want to stray from making it an enhancement as oppossed to an enlargement. They want patients to be content with having a heavier penis with less retraction.

On a diffrent note I spoke to wade about my concern with New Plastic vs. Artefill. He said they had a 3rd party Dr study all the pmma avaliable in the open market. This dr is from the US (Florida) and does most of his work on HIV patients for facial reconstruction. He did a blind study on all the materials and his conclusion suggested new plastic is nearly as pure as artefill. He is sending me the drs info today, when I recive it I will share it with the forum. I asked wade if one were to want artefill regardless, would Dr.C Use it/ or even be familiar with it. He said that Dr. C is familiar with it and would use ANY pmma the patient wanted. But he still strongly suggested that it is unessasary to be frivolous being that new plastic was nearly its equal. I mean, im sure they could profit using artefill marking patients up on the product(Artefill) So IMO they honestly belive that New plastic is not inferior to artefill.

Yes, though normally if you go over 20cc you have to pay $75/cc over... I allowed another surgeon to view / tape my first round so I didn\'t have to pay extra.

So you got 22 cc the first round at 1500.00 and then 18cc the second round. Was that another 1500?

Because its not normal Penis tissue? On the follow up sheet that you fill out before round 2 they refer to it as an implant...

I don\'t know if it could break. When Wade refered to breaks after round 1 I think he more meant a break wher the PMMA would stop and start. Likely due to not having enough in that area or to do with something immediately post op when the stuff is still fluid.

Why wouldn\'t the tissue after pmma stretch like normal penis tissue does doing pe with or without device? It could break? Huh that sounds bad.