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I’m glad to help brother, this can be a nerve wracking situation, however in the short form ( no pun intended)

In fillers , pmma is “walled off/ encapsulated” by collagen , it fact that is the mechanism by which your growth occurs and is the desired short term inflammatory response.

. Even in massive amounts of pmma ( you don’t have that, we have a guy on the board with somewhere between 120-160ml which equates to 70-90 ml of pure pmma) that still isn’t having a persistent inflammatory response. Once it’s walled off, it’s walled off, if damage occurs, minor inflammation to “fix the wall” will occur”

Probably the most important thing to do now is take collagen peptide supplements , it isn’t going to go directly to your dick, and the majority of it will be excreted from the body , but you’re ensuring that the body has all the building blocks needed to rapid healing without pulling from other sources in the body.

Bellafill has a slow carrier absorption rate, so 6-8 weeks of collagen sups should cover absorption of carrier and subsequent collagen replacement.

While I didn’t stay in a Holiday Inn last night, and I am not a recognized member of the medical community except in the most obscure way. I did spend some year s working in hard sciences and was in the upper part of the NIST and NBS traceability chain, so calculating risk from data is second nature.

Have a great day, and enjoy the new tool you’ve been given to work with.


Looks like skeptical beat me to the punch lol!

First and foremost, all elective medical procedures (especially cosmetic in nature) are not without risk, and they are called elective because they are not necessary for your welfare or health. Even if everything were to go as planned and the procedure (and its associated materials like a filler) worked 100% safety & effectively, it wouldn't rule you out from the possibility of post-op infections you can acquire through a trip at any Clinical setting, despite it being rather uncommon (hence why most facilities maintain sterile settings, use rubbing alcohol prior to injection, and often prescribe antibiotics post-op as a preventative measure).

I also want to implore anyone considering these procedures that have a history of depression, anxiety -- or -- those hypercritical of aesthetics or hypochondriac of "symptoms," ought to reconsider doing any sort of elective procedure.

All that said, to put your mind at ease, this forum has been following the use of PMMA for penile enhancement since almost as early as its inception (circa 2010), and its efficacy has been quite demonstrable through sample size alone.

PMMA is not a known carcinogen and its been FDA approved for use to correct/enhance nasolabial folds and has been used off-label for other areas of enhancement (which is legal).

The inflammatory response comes with the territory and is partly responsible for what helps prompt your body to wall off the PMMA (hence collagen formation) in the first place. This inflammation by and large seems subtle with respect to long-term presence, and typically flares (i.e. increases in size due to mild swelling) when aggressive physical force is applied to the penis (e.g. aggressive masturbation or penis pumping). For me personally, at no time did I tell myself I needed to get a prescription for anti-inflammation because in the 13 years I've had it in me, it's never posed a problem (and I forget it's even there with each passing month and year).

That all said, 10+ syringes is quite modest at best, you have a low volume of PMMA in your skin, presenting even less inflammation than those who have had considerably more over time.

If you aren't comfortable with long-term inflammation, you can seek to augment you shaft through lesser inflammatory materials like Hyaluronic Acid (HA), but those will require annual top-offs -- versus the permanency of PMMA -- and that's sort of the trade off.

In a nutshell, you'll be fine.

While the adherence, mode, vascularization, and absorbance mechanisms are entirely different, consider that like a fat transfer/bbl, only a percentage that is variable person to person is going to “take”. Further fills will take a different rates and longevity, Even with fast absorbers I haven’t read yet that it all disappeared , I’ve heard 30-40% loss which means 60-70 % retention , which if we were discussing fat transfer would be a tremendous result.

I’m still going pmma when I can find the time, but I will continue to do ha until then as my travel time for ha is 4 hours round trip driving with no down time from a work perspective.

Ok, take a deep breath first .

I currently have ha and intend to go pmma . Prior to making that decision I researched extensively looking for issues or problems. Pmma is used in eye surgery, bone cement, joint replacement, and a plethora of other in body uses to include fillers as we are discussing.

Medical studies go back over 15 years to include fillers (facial in this case). With the long term “negatives” being listed as nodules in 3.3% of cases in a 15 year follow up study.

Pmma has along medical history and truly minimal noted negatives.

Because you suffer from anxiety, you should take an afternoon, break out your google-fu and read at least 20 medical studies on pmma, Read them for ALL medical uses of pmma, with the understanding that your use as a filler is studied but you want the whole picture.

I would add that Reddit, while a data point, also has convincing arguments that the world is run by lizard people, and convinced folks that the “OK” hand gesture was racial in nature, so take it with a grain of salt.

A little apprehension post procedure ( any surgical or cosmetic procedure really) IS normal, but if you’re in fairly good health it is not going to be the issue you think it is.

You had a safe profile filler installed as opposed to silicone or other non medical filler. Outside of emergency approval , the FDA has a pretty difficult and expensive process for approval and they get it right the vast majority of the time. Even silicone, and I agree with skeptical here and am VERY thankful for this board for it , should NOT be used as a filler, BUT for the 100 or so reports of negative outcomes, there are thousands of folks on body modification forums with massive amounts ( over 1 liter) long term (10-20 years) with no ill effects other than not fitting pants. This is NOT an endorsement of silicone in ANY way, it is used merely to point out that as humans we tend to focus on negative outcomes.

Put another way, there are roughly 100,000 flights daily, we have heard about issues on around 5 flights in the last month and it’s big news ( admitted so for those on that flight). But 5 issues that made the new out of roughly 3 MILLION flights. We are entering stuck by lightning, winning a lottery odds.


So take a breath, it’s going to be OK

A couple of quick info studies, there are TONS more out there.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9174739/

www.fda.gov/media/158494/download

journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1091581811407352

journals.lww.com/ijwd/Fulltext/2019/0700...st_marketing.30.aspx

Hope this helps

Hello everyone. I'm posting here because I got 10+ syringes of bellafill the other day and have been having serious regrets because of the anxiety it has been causing me. Before anyone says "everything has a risk", I understand that, did my research, and did not feel any real worries until I walked out of Dr Rupekas office, but have had anxiety symptoms in the past. Now the reddit users who bring up certain points on bellafill is causing me a real high amount of anxiety to the point of a literal panic attack and researching removal. I am sitting here thinking why did I do this? I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this or found or has any points or info that could possibly give me some piece of mind? This is the only place I am really comfortable asking this, my husband is not overly concerned but he has had other work done and this is new for me. The main things I've read that are worrying me :Pmma carcinogen/cancer ?
Pmma is foreign to body- immune system issues, long term inflammation?
Learning of pmma/bellafill health negatives in future as time goes on.

Sounds like a good plan. I would not fret about it. Over time it will soften and you will become more comfortable with the implant.

After several months it will be much better healed and you will know "in a calm way" what you want to change. Until 3 months or so it is still pretty dynamic although it probably won't change too much between now and then visually. But the texture will soften and become accepted by your tissue.

I am a stern believer in just staying calm and letting your body get comfortable. It sounds like you're still having some issues - but as I mentioned I don't really think PMMA is a one and done. But some people get lucky.

I'm a little afraid 10-12ccs more may be too much, considering I gained almost a half-inch with 15cc last time. But I've also heard that you gain less the following round since you're starting larger, not sure though..

Same here: 2 months post procedure and I think a slight touch up would be useful to make the base a little bit larger. Do you guys know if 10% PMMA can be used for that purpose? What % and ml's are suggested in those cases?

Hey @6x5to6x7
Apologies for the delay in replies

It did! Got very close, I'm roughly 6.7" girth now at midshaft
There is a divot on the left side closer to the head/circ scar, feels like no filler is there, like it migrated elsewhere
He also gave me filler underneath as well, overall it looks very good imo

I'm considering getting a larger touch-up next week, 10CCs. Get that area fixed and just a little thicker overall. Should end up right at 7" or just over I would imagine.
I'm bouncing back and forth between 10 or 12 more CCs

The touch-up next week would be roughly 7 weeks from my previous 15CCs. The Dr. said usually would wait a bit more, but that 5 weeks is the minimum time between injections, so should be OK

I could wish they were in Nuevo progresso too lol.

itgoesthud wrote: I'm more worried about the Boeing aircraft I might take to get PMMA dropping out of the sky and having my parents find out I died on the way to get dick filler, than I am the actual PMMA going wrong with one of the top shelf injectors here. Seriously, I'm looking at airlines that use Airbus or Embraer, the complications aren't even on my mind.
Due diligence is to tell you the risks, odds, etc, as most doctors would - but that's my unfiltered statement on where my head is at with all of it. I wish Avanti were in Nuevo Laredo or Matamoros because I'd just drive it!

@itgoesthud so damn funny

Thanks for your input @Yup and @uncuthero .

I don’t mean to get ahead of myself, rather I’m curious about touch up rounds because I haven’t found as much discussion on that in terms of yield, how much it can actually correct etc whereas we have really good data on what to expect from a full round. Also there’s the cost implication though I’m financially prepared for either procedure during round 2.

The itchy is collagen building happen everytime nothing to worry about go for round 2 for aesthethics like i did with all 10%

I think you said it yourself to answer your question.

"Next phase for me is to let the collagen building phase to run its course then consult with @Avanti_Derma on whether I need a full round or touch up."

You got several more weeks to go before you are in much of a position to have certainty on what to do next.

Keep the course.

2 week update

I think the swelling is gone or mostly gone and I’m entering the collagen building phase. I feel a slight itching sensation here and there that I’d compare to the itch you get when you shave your unit and the hair grows back. Anyone experience this?

As far as aesthetics, there is lumpiness which you can see in second picture of the previous post. Just slightly above the base there is a buildup of filler that flairs out to the side then runs down the shaft. I think @SoonDigBick described something similar. It’s even more apparent from the side and bottom view. Also, I have filler at and above the circ line that is very palpable. So these high spots paired with less material midshaft makes for a very lumpy feel in the hand and visually. I hope this doesn’t read as me being dissatisfied - I expected to do at least another round whether that be a full session or touch up and communicated as much to Dr Morales to give her the freedom to focus on girth over aesthetics for this round.

Next phase for me is to let the collagen building phase to run its course then consult with @Avanti_Derma on whether I need a full round or touch up.

As of right now girth erect measurements are:
Neck: just shy of 6”
Midshaft: slightly above 5.5”
Base: 6.25”

Coming from a mostly uniform 5” girth. I’d be pretty happy to keep this size while bringing up that midshaft numbers to correct the visual and tactile lumpiness. Any initial thoughts on if a touch up is enough to correct or if a full round is in order?