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05 Jan 2019 18:18
I started back in 1995...when PE was still regarded as a myth and dismissed as a pipe dream...I read about it in a medical book when I was fretting about my 'small penis'....
The thing that really sold me on it was that a letter was written to a doctor by a man who swore that jelqing worked and the doctor admitted that he had had heard of such anecdotal cases of enlargement.

The irony is I actually started out with an above average size penis ...But that didn't stop me on my quest....I was programmed from that moment to fulfill my destiny to have a gigantic schlong...
To do this I had my ligaments cut...and I've done every type of manual PE known to these boards...
The key? Years and tears...and luck...and tenacity...and OCD....
I'm still obsessed....
Very few men on this planet would be willing to sacrifice the amount of time, energy, and money (tens of thousands of dollars) for 1 3/4 inches....if you break it down, it's like 2mm for every year.
I'm insane.
and btw, my weight hasn't really changed since I was 19 years old...Knock on wood....
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04 Jan 2019 22:03

I've increased my erect length by almost two inches. It takes years, discipline, and (perhaps) luck...but it's possible.
Cutting ligaments
Mnual stretching, jelqing
pumping
hanging
All-day-stretcher
Tenacity and obsessivness

But you're right in the sense that there is no magic bullet



I\'m not saying that erect length gain is totally impossible, but the fact is: we don\'t have any effective methods for erect length enhancement. I wrote this in many of other threads and again I repeat my words: I\'ve doing PE for little more than 5 years and all that I gained is a 0.5\" of EL after thousands hours of various types of stretching.

I don\'t get how is someone gaining more than 1\" of EL. You said that you gained 2\", but maybe part of this gain is just because of loosing weight and improved erection quality? For example: you have gained 1\" after years of PE + 0.5\" by weight loss + 0.5\" due to improved erection quality. Just my guess.

Btw, how many years ago did you started doing PE?
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30 Dec 2018 10:16

My personal wish is to have a 10x6.5 penis. Though even 8x6 would be very nice.

But seriously I just want to see a real options/treatments/cures for:

1. Options for erect length increase. Because there\'s no options currently.

I've increased my erect length by almost two inches. It takes years, discipline, and (perhaps) luck...but it's possible.
Cutting ligaments
Mnual stretching, jelqing
pumping
hanging
All-day-stretcher
Tenacity and obsessivness

But you're right in the sense that there is no magic bullet

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28 Oct 2018 21:47
Temptations.. temptations...

A year ago I found out about Dr Elist and I got super happy that finally an FDA cleared product was out that could enlarge my penis from what it is now 2.5FL 3.5FG & 4.3EL 4.3EG.. At the time I didn't have money to consider this surgery so I didn't keep looking into it nor get stuck on the idea. Fast forward to October 2018, im 23 years old & financially stable to bring $13k cash to Dr Elist.. I saw his website a week ago, saw the pre & post op pictures on his site and google reviews, I also saw negative reviews that I scrolled by without reading because I didn't want to be convinced 100% otherwise. I guess when you read all the good promises, testimonials, & 95+% success rate all you can think of is that you finally found the cure to your small dick..

I didn't want to but I ended up typing Dr Elist Bad reviews and I came across some topics on here. I read Mustang's story, Messagemen & Thedane's experiences... thank you all veryyyy much for sharing!!!

what can I say? Im still not 100% convinced that I shouldn't get the penuma implant..

Why? well here are my current questions & findings. Please correct me if Im wrong & give me your honest opinions.

1. Most of the surgeries gone wrong were done years ago, even the most sociopath of a doctor would come up with a improvement to the implant no? The problems you guys had with the implant poking at the base of the head I assume is corrected by now years later.

2. You guys said that your penis remained the same size erection wise post op but gained girth gains & that post removal it lost an inch but with jelqing and stretching it eventually went back to normal size if not gained an inch in lenght while retaining some girth.

Am I wrong to assume that the only bad experiences were the pain & numbness & that I should take these risks with the idea that worst case scenario I can just remove the implant & start stretching to get my size back ?

3. Is there any members who had this implant 2016,2017 or this year who still have it on?

4. What other options can I take to get an added inch in length/girth?
5. Has anybody tried the penimaster pro and seen results? The idea of the suction cup is brilliant because i bought a penis extender before but the smallest rod wasnt small enough so that the strap could reach my head, i was very dissapointed.

In conclusion I am 23 years old, my dick has been the same size since highschool, I don't have sex with women even if they are clearly flirting with me hinting at the idea of sex because I have anxiety that my dick won't do enough, some of the hot ones may think im gay. I rather have sex with escorts who don't know me or have friends in common with. I'll never get married if I don't find me a non promiscuos woman or get a dick enlargement.. Im tired of having a small dick, it's caused a negative physical & psychologial effect on me, I keep working hard saving money with the idea that one day I can buy myself happiness but what is true happiness without a average/ big dick?

I would give all my money, get into huge debt, walk the great wall of china on my knees over broken glass if I had to just to have a 7inch dick like all my friends but realistically I'll be happy with a 5.5EL x 5EG


Sometimes I wonder why can't they remove penis's off dead men who are organ donors and throw them on bidding websites for us small guys to bid and get a dick transplant? Fuck man...
12 Oct 2018 00:24
FJ,

chill bud. Noone is killing themselves over jelqing. can you imagine the note?

I\'m not telling anyone how to jelq. There are some great programs that go into detail on how to do it properly and avoid injury. Do your own research If you try and rip your dick off via jelqing and tear or rupture something then thats on you.

Jelqing is a super great way to stimulate blood flow and to have a healthy penis. If you want to stay away from jelqing out of fear then you should probably also stay away from sex because it could also injure your penis.

I try and do 5 minutes of jelqing per day in the hot shower. afterwards my penis hangs wonderfully and is plump and has had a nice flow of fresh blood into it. I\'m not trying to rip it off and force my dick to grow. Its about blood flow. Have some common sense and jelq lightly to moderate pressure.

and yes i am an asshole.
11 Oct 2018 23:29

Bolkonsky wrote: I hang and jelq. I\'ll continue to do both the rest of my life. Jelqing for me is fundamental and produces nothing but great Erection Quality. My dick gets crazy hard still and i\'m in my late 30\'s. I have never heard of jelqs and impotent correlation. I\'ve only heard the opposite.

Or you are a mod from those forums or you are stupid.
Stop promoting this shit, there are people who have committed because of this, asshole
11 Oct 2018 01:40
I hang and jelq. I\'ll continue to do both the rest of my life. Jelqing for me is fundamental and produces nothing but great Erection Quality. My dick gets crazy hard still and i\'m in my late 30\'s. I have never heard of jelqs and impotent correlation. I\'ve only heard the opposite.
10 Oct 2018 19:52
I\'d recommend Thunder\'s place. I\'m pretty sure S.O. has posted there, and they\'re a \"friendly\" site? They were the best years ago when I did manual PE. Word of caution, watch out for jelquing... Read long thread by user deeppurple9 (I think it\'s a nine) which triggered them to post a warning about jelqing. Good luck.
11 Jun 2018 04:28

baron289 wrote: Thanks mustang2020. Gaining some flaccid length would be great for me. So I\'ve done PE Exercises on and off for a couple years. Have not seen any gain. None. I know there is arguments for and against. The medical and scientific community all agree this is impossible through a jelqing, hanging, stretching regimen etc due to the tissue involved in the penis. Plus I\'ve never, not one time from any website seen a before and after posted for jelq, hang or stretch. Obviously you can peruse before and after surgery all day. Additionally I wanted my surgeon to be a board certified plastic surgeon.


Have you looked on thunders? There are lots of before and after pics in the progress reports. It works but you have to keep at it and it's tedious as all get out.

You can definitely achieve length by hanging alone.
11 Jun 2018 04:28
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Thanks mustang2020. Gaining some flaccid length would be great for me. So I\'ve done PE Exercises on and off for a couple years. Have not seen any gain. None. I know there is arguments for and against. The medical and scientific community all agree this is impossible through a jelqing, hanging, stretching regimen etc due to the tissue involved in the penis. Plus I\'ve never, not one time from any website seen a before and after posted for jelq, hang or stretch. Obviously you can peruse before and after surgery all day. Additionally I wanted my surgeon to be a board certified plastic surgeon.
03 Jun 2018 20:31
Of course, you should combine with manual pe like jelqing and stretching and use of sleeves after exercise to prevent turtling that hinders gains.
For DHT the most reliable site I found was russianstarpeptides which sells topical DHT formulas at various percentages with good carriers.
For Dutastreid, it would be good to buy Avodart on a site that sells it. Ideally, you should understand if there is a topical form of Dutastreid to apply on your penis to avoid the side effects of systemic tablets.
The overall idea seems to be close to the edge but it can work, I hope.
21 May 2018 08:34
Hi Buffdawg.

How is it going now?

I am seriously considering the procedure you took, to finally get some more self esteem about my private parts, and especially the girth.

I have kind of thought of this as a Christmas present for myself this year.

Status now is that I\'m thinking about two ways:
1. Start to follow and do a jelqing program, give it 3-6 months, and hope that this will give me maybe 1\" growth.

2. HA Voluma at Androfill. Hope this will give me 1\" growth (maybe after round 2?)

Todays EG is 4\", and my goal for now is 5\" - 5,5\"

BPEL: 6\"

What do you think?




26 Apr 2018 17:23

luvcoffee wrote: Hello all, I write this in somewhat of a sad state. 9 months ago I hastily decided to get the Elist implant after willfully neglecting to research. Looking back on it now, I think I knew I would find the horror stories that are so common in these threads. I had a form of selective ignorance in choosing not to seek all of your accounts pleading potential victims to reconsider. For context, I've always had low sexual confidence. When I read that GQ article a couple years ago, I thought it was a way out of my sexual despair. I didn't have the money so I kept it in my back pocket. A few years past of looking forward to someday getting this procedure done. All it would have taken was a simple search to find this wealth of information. (special thanks to Message Man, Boston Man, and Mustang). Without you guys I seriously would have nowhere to look right now. Upon getting the implant, my account is very similar to everyone else's. I was rushed through signing the papers as if Elist had somewhere more important to be. My stupid (or smart) fucking ass decided to look up testimonials IN THE OFFICE BEFORE I WAS TO GO TO THE SURGERY CENTER. I found a Thunders Palace horror story and started to freak the F out. My inner skeptic was screaming at me. I could literally hear the little voice in my head saying 'screw that $2k deposit there is no light in this tunnel'. However, the 2k kept me in the game. I had already spent some money so I was invested. I write with so much regret right now knowing all of the pain I could have staved off. Oh well, what's done is done. Immediately after getting the surgery I went home to some of the worst pain in my life. Urinating was an impossible feat. Getting even the tiniest drop out was like a mudslide of kidney stones. I would stand in the bathroom for sometimes 30 minutes at a time facing the dilemma of a painfully full bladder and a penis refusing to empty it. Holy shit it hurt so bad'. That was nothing. Then I go to sleep. Apparently your nocturnal erections don't like dildos intruding on their growth space. Holy hell, I didn't scream like some others here but heavy breathing and biting my finger was the least I could do to get out of Dante's inferno. Over the next month the pain slowly subsided. I was left with about 70% of my dick being numb and a stiff implant in a dynamic place. I've been reading all day and these guys are so right about penile implants. Breasts are different because they don't move. Your penis changes size every god damn minute. It turtles in cold water and all sorts of shit. Here's how your member dynamically reacts. The glans withdraw into the shaft forming massive edges, or 'wrinkles' as Elist calls them. To prevent this, they had me wear Tubi Grip which is like cylindrical gauze that compresses the shaft. To this day I've been wearing Tubi Grip everyday. My DYNAMIC member requires it. Here's how it feels with it inside you. Say goodbye to boxer briefs if you're that kind of guy. Horribly uncomfortable. In fact, say goodbye to anything tight. If you do decide to wear slim fitting suit pants or jeans, upon putting them on, you need to decide which pant leg your member will live in for the day. No more middle. 'But doesn't this make it look like you have a big package?' Maybe, but you will be thinking about the implant every 5 seconds for the whole day either because of the discomfort or hoping you don't move wrong and rip it out. I look like a fucking idiot putting on shoes. I don't go straight down as that will bend the prosthetic up. I have to bow my legs out. It's the worst. The top part of your shaft is permanently hard. It is so unnatural feeling that it's comical. Every time I cum, through intercourse or masturbation, my dick will throb for about 30 minutes, and the pain will subside over the next day. Especially at the glans where the implant is sutured. My length has not changed but my girth has gotten noticeably bigger. SOOOO not worth the girth size. Take out the throbbing pain during intercourse and the noticeable increase in size, the discomfort is alone to want this implant out of my body. For reference, buy a pocket pussy. It's the exact same stiffness, and, as I mentioned earlier is not dynamic so don't expect it to get softer. Here I am, 9 months later and I want this thing out of my body. I've been reading posts all day and taking notes on others' removals. If any of you that have gotten the implant removed would be so kind as to reply to this thread or PM me, I would be eternally grateful. I have a few questions that need answering. I also need some morale booster. I'm pretty sad right now looking at peoples' results post removal. I would do anything to get the exact penis I had the day I walked into that surgery center. I think I will be using Elist for removal. Although I don't trust him, he has the most experience with these removals. I will definitely not be doing it in his office as some others have. If it takes $2500 so be it. If you view Elist doing the removal is a bad idea, please express why. I greatly appreciate your feedback. Message man has said gaining original EL back is totally possible with a consistent 'obsessive' routine of stretching and pumping. He also mentioned jelqing a couple times, but some of you don't really like that. My main question in regards to stretching is, say after 6 months you gain the original EL back, if you stop stretching, will it return to its former size? I saw Mustang's pictures post removal and in flaccid state it looked very swollen. Do most of you guys recall it being bulgy like that forever? I really don't want PMMA. I just want original dick. Why does everyone opt for PMMA? I can't be the only one that just wants to undo all the damage. I may be answering my own question here but what fills that vacuum of space that was once filled with the implant? Scar tissue? If so, how much scar tissue do you guys remember being there? It feels to me like there is zero tissue between my skin and the implant. Is the scar tissue under the implant? I've seen a few things regarding eliminating the scar tissue that ends up there. Kenalog, Scarase, and DMSO with topical Vitamin E. I've read on a couple threads that Dr. Solomon says that Kenalog is horrible long term. Has anyone else experienced what he is referring to? Is there a specific routine anyone would recommend for minimizing/eliminating scar tissue? Who has gotten Dr. Camacho to move scar tissue? Was the operation successful? What is the benefit of cutting the suspensory ligament post removal? I couldn't find an explanation for this. How normal does your dick look now compared to what it did before the procedure? Does it return to its dynamic state? Funnily enough, I kind of want it to turtle again. I was way more mobile that way. Why do so many of you experience a near vertical erection post removal? Any way to fix this? Of the guys that have gone with the removal, how many of you have a case of peyronie's? How many of you have absolved the case with a routine of some sort? ALL SAID AND DONE HOW SIMILAR DOES YOUR DICK LOOK AND ACT NOW (NOT INCLUDING LOSS OF SENSATION) COMPARED TO PRE-IMPLANT. 1 BEING COMPLETELY DEFORMED AND 10 BEING GOOD AS NEW. Again, thank you all for your ongoing contribution into this forum. It has proved an excellent resource in my time of need. Hopefully others will find this information before they land in Elist's office.

-luvcoffee

---- I like many others have experienced EXACTLY what you write about here. I have responded to others but in case you didn\'t see it I will try to address some of your questions as they relate to me.
Definitely pay the $2500 and let Dr. Elist take it out and do it ASAP.
I don\'t know anything about PMMA and after this experience I will never touch that area again with trying to change what I was born with.
I had a Dermatologist laser my scare and use shots. It may have made it a softer scare but no real change.
After a year of removal I still have no feeling in 70% nor have I gained back any erect length. I lost 2 inches.
I do have a curvature now when erect that I didn\'t have before. When not erect it does look like it did before I had the damn thing put in.

I bought a battery powered pump that I have use everyday. I also bought the size genetics stretcher that I wear 6 to 8 hours a day at least 5 days per week. After doing this for 7 months I have not seen any results but I plan to give it 2 years.
Dr. Elist prescribes nitrobid for the numbness but it gives me a headache. I believe it has nitroglycerin in it. If so you should not take it with ED meds but Dr. Elist wont tell you this.
You are not alone in your despair. If only I had researched this more I would have NOT done it. Dr. Elist preys on men who have any interest in being larger. I don\'t understand how he keeps getting away with it. I know nothing is 100% but I don\'t think many if any leave the device in.

You are right to use this forum. The guys on here are ALL Very understanding and helpful. They helped me get through in the beginning, In time your mind settles down and your mental well being improves. Don\'t give up!
I hope this helped you in some small measure.

04 Apr 2018 09:36
Questions:
1) Would PMMA be better option as I already have a lot and it\'s not worth the risk of grafting?
Pmma is the best option right now most say, me too. Grafts are fucking big hardcore operation.

2) if I did PMMA could I do more cc than the average guy on the first round?
If you are longer, yes.

3) would I still need to do all the stretching and hanging exercises to prevent retraction?
This is just extra and i don\'t even think there are long term cases where length is lost long term.

4) dermal grafting would still cause retraction even if I\'m just going for girth?
Don\'t know about dermal grafting, it went out of style i think.

5) I\'ve pumped my dick A LOT over the years. 10-15mmHg on a reg basis (also tried jelqing, stretching, very briefly hanging, clamping wrapping). never had any problems but it\'s usually edema that ends up giving me girth. do you think this experience would increase chances of complication or toughen it up? pumping never bruises me.

Don\'t guess it would increase chances of complication.
But i would stop pumping forever or for 1 year after last injection. It\'s said that it moves around pmma.


6) would the pain after the procedure be any less because I\'m not looking to add length?
Lig cut for length is another procedure as pmma. Pmma only gives girth.
Lig cut is generally regarded as bullshit (some people even lose length, big operation, big mess, length gains seem to come nearly only from hanging after the operation)

7) increased chance of lumps/complications with PMMA on a bigger dick?
Wouldn\'t think so at all.

8) pain is subjective I know, but would the pain be more or less with a naturally bigger penis? I can see logic both ways
Pain is pain, Pmma for me was mostly pain free.

9) more chance of complications because surgeons aren\'t used to working on my size? or eaiser
No difference, perhaps even a bit easier i would imagine.

General questions (PMMA procedure Focus):
A) I live far away from any surgeon that does this. in a two stage PMMA surgery, how much time do you wait between procedures?
3 months is most cited i think.

B) I sit down and stand up for work a lot. not lifting anything heavy, but I do need to concentrate intensely for my job. having a hemorrhoid for example was super distracting. how much time from work do you guys take off typically (2 weeks)? how soon before you can get back on a plane? can you do post-op check ups over the phone?

Most say at least 3 days work off - first 3 days the pmma seems to form most. Then not so much anymore.
Some people fly right home, some people stay 3 days in hotel

Dr N does whatsapp, i guess Dr C also.

C) can you do PMMA in the head to get a bigger mushroom?
No.
Mushroom thingi - they put HA (hyoloric acid something) in there. Which is softer than pmma and stays there for a year or something like that.

D) how long before sexy time?
Most cited from doc\'s i think is 14 days, many \'are sure\' and do one month.
04 Apr 2018 09:36
Hello forum peeps,
So I know I\'m probably going to receive lot of comments like, \"what are you doing dude?, you\'re way above average!\", but whatever I\'ll post this anyway.

current measurements
FL: 5\" measuring straight out, ~6\" if it hangs (what\'s the official way to measure FL anyway?)
FG: 4.5~4.75

BPFSL: 9.1\"
BPEL: 8.8\"
Base EG: 6\"
MSEG: 5.25\"
G just behind glands: 5.25~5\"

real, properly measured stats, no BS, (and no PE beforehand)

Goals
FL: 6.5\"
FG: 5.75\"

EL: <0.5\" increase at most, if it stays the same or I lose 0.5\" that\'s actually fine too
BEG: 6.75\"
MSEG: 6.5\"
Behind Glands/Glands: 6\"so I\'m not looking to gain EL. I would like to add girth. I\'ve been doing non-surg PE off and on for about a decade now. it\'s given only temp gains. I have felt what it\'s like to temporarily walk around with an extra 0.5\" to 1\" of girth, and I love it. I\'ve also had sex with that extra size and it feels great (and I can tell the ladies like it too).

btw non-surg PE has added maybe half an inch in permanent length and maybe 1/4\" girth at the base over the years. not much

So I got it into my head to consider doing this whole surgical thing. because:
-I\'m probably going to keep pumping my dick until it falls off otherwise
-I have the cash for it
-I\'m single, young, and healthy now (in my early 30\'s)
-I\'d feel embarrassed to do this during a relationship.
-it currently feels guilty/weird to pump before sex (secretly) and then have the partner wonder what happened to the girth the next day.
-call me greedy, but IDK, more girth is something I\'ve wanted for like half my life.

anyone with above avg natural stats share there experience or knowledge??
Questions:
1) Would PMMA be better option as I already have a lot and it\'s not worth the risk of grafting?
2) if I did PMMA could I do more cc than the average guy on the first round?
3) would I still need to do all the stretching and hanging exercises to prevent retraction?
4) dermal grafting would still cause retraction even if I\'m just going for girth?
5) I\'ve pumped my dick A LOT over the years. 10-15mmHg on a reg basis (also tried jelqing, stretching, very briefly hanging, clamping wrapping). never had any problems but it\'s usually edema that ends up giving me girth. do you think this experience would increase chances of complication or toughen it up? pumping never bruises me.
6) would the pain after the procedure be any less because I\'m not looking to add length?
7) increased chance of lumps/complications with PMMA on a bigger dick?
8) pain is subjective I know, but would the pain be more or less with a naturally bigger penis? I can see logic both ways
9) more chance of complications because surgeons aren\'t used to working on my size? or eaiser

General questions (PMMA procedure Focus):
A) I live far away from any surgeon that does this. in a two stage PMMA surgery, how much time do you wait between procedures?
B) I sit down and stand up for work a lot. not lifting anything heavy, but I do need to concentrate intensely for my job. having a hemorrhoid for example was super distracting. how much time from work do you guys take off typically (2 weeks)? how soon before you can get back on a plane? can you do post-op check ups over the phone?
C) can you do PMMA in the head to get a bigger mushroom?
D) how long before sexy time?

I suppose a lot of these questions are for a doctor... oh well.

thanks for your help.

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