luvcoffee wrote: Hello all, I write this in somewhat of a sad state. 9 months ago I hastily decided to get the Elist implant after willfully neglecting to research. Looking back on it now, I think I knew I would find the horror stories that are so common in these threads. I had a form of selective ignorance in choosing not to seek all of your accounts pleading potential victims to reconsider. For context, I've always had low sexual confidence. When I read that GQ article a couple years ago, I thought it was a way out of my sexual despair. I didn't have the money so I kept it in my back pocket. A few years past of looking forward to someday getting this procedure done. All it would have taken was a simple search to find this wealth of information. (special thanks to Message Man, Boston Man, and Mustang). Without you guys I seriously would have nowhere to look right now. Upon getting the implant, my account is very similar to everyone else's. I was rushed through signing the papers as if Elist had somewhere more important to be. My stupid (or smart) fucking ass decided to look up testimonials IN THE OFFICE BEFORE I WAS TO GO TO THE SURGERY CENTER. I found a Thunders Palace horror story and started to freak the F out. My inner skeptic was screaming at me. I could literally hear the little voice in my head saying 'screw that $2k deposit there is no light in this tunnel'. However, the 2k kept me in the game. I had already spent some money so I was invested. I write with so much regret right now knowing all of the pain I could have staved off. Oh well, what's done is done. Immediately after getting the surgery I went home to some of the worst pain in my life. Urinating was an impossible feat. Getting even the tiniest drop out was like a mudslide of kidney stones. I would stand in the bathroom for sometimes 30 minutes at a time facing the dilemma of a painfully full bladder and a penis refusing to empty it. Holy shit it hurt so bad'. That was nothing. Then I go to sleep. Apparently your nocturnal erections don't like dildos intruding on their growth space. Holy hell, I didn't scream like some others here but heavy breathing and biting my finger was the least I could do to get out of Dante's inferno. Over the next month the pain slowly subsided. I was left with about 70% of my Dick being numb and a stiff implant in a dynamic place. I've been reading all day and these guys are so right about penile implants. Breasts are different because they don't move. Your penis changes size every god damn minute. It turtles in cold water and all sorts of shit. Here's how your member dynamically reacts. The glans withdraw into the shaft forming massive edges, or 'wrinkles' as Elist calls them. To prevent this, they had me wear Tubi Grip which is like cylindrical gauze that compresses the shaft. To this day I've been wearing Tubi Grip everyday. My DYNAMIC member requires it. Here's how it feels with it inside you. Say goodbye to boxer briefs if you're that kind of guy. Horribly uncomfortable. In fact, say goodbye to anything tight. If you do decide to wear slim fitting suit pants or jeans, upon putting them on, you need to decide which pant leg your member will live in for the day. No more middle. 'But doesn't this make it look like you have a big package?' Maybe, but you will be thinking about the implant every 5 seconds for the whole day either because of the discomfort or hoping you don't move wrong and rip it out. I look like a fucking idiot putting on shoes. I don't go straight down as that will bend the prosthetic up. I have to bow my legs out. It's the worst. The top part of your shaft is permanently hard. It is so unnatural feeling that it's comical. Every time I cum, through intercourse or masturbation, my Dick will throb for about 30 minutes, and the pain will subside over the next day. Especially at the glans where the implant is sutured. My length has not changed but my Girth has gotten noticeably bigger. SOOOO not worth the Girth size. Take out the throbbing pain during intercourse and the noticeable increase in size, the discomfort is alone to want this implant out of my body. For reference, buy a pocket pussy. It's the exact same stiffness, and, as I mentioned earlier is not dynamic so don't expect it to get softer. Here I am, 9 months later and I want this thing out of my body. I've been reading posts all day and taking notes on others' removals. If any of you that have gotten the implant removed would be so kind as to reply to this thread or PM me, I would be eternally grateful. I have a few questions that need answering. I also need some morale booster. I'm pretty sad right now looking at peoples' results post Removal. I would do anything to get the exact penis I had the day I walked into that surgery center. I think I will be using Elist for Removal. Although I don't trust him, he has the most experience with these removals. I will definitely not be doing it in his office as some others have. If it takes $2500 so be it. If you view Elist doing the Removal is a bad idea, please express why. I greatly appreciate your feedback. Message man has said gaining original EL back is totally possible with a consistent 'obsessive' routine of stretching and pumping. He also mentioned Jelqing a couple times, but some of you don't really like that. My main question in regards to stretching is, say after 6 months you gain the original EL back, if you stop stretching, will it return to its former size? I saw Mustang's pictures post Removal and in Flaccid state it looked very swollen. Do most of you guys recall it being bulgy like that forever? I really don't want PMMA. I just want original Dick. Why does everyone opt for PMMA? I can't be the only one that just wants to undo all the damage. I may be answering my own question here but what fills that vacuum of space that was once filled with the implant? Scar tissue? If so, how much scar tissue do you guys remember being there? It feels to me like there is zero tissue between my skin and the implant. Is the scar tissue under the implant? I've seen a few things regarding eliminating the scar tissue that ends up there. Kenalog, Scarase, and DMSO with topical Vitamin E. I've read on a couple threads that Dr. Solomon says that Kenalog is horrible long term. Has anyone else experienced what he is referring to? Is there a specific routine anyone would recommend for minimizing/eliminating scar tissue? Who has gotten Dr. Camacho to move scar tissue? Was the operation successful? What is the benefit of cutting the suspensory ligament post Removal? I couldn't find an explanation for this. How normal does your Dick look now compared to what it did before the procedure? Does it return to its dynamic state? Funnily enough, I kind of want it to turtle again. I was way more mobile that way. Why do so many of you experience a near vertical Erection post Removal? Any way to fix this? Of the guys that have gone with the Removal, how many of you have a case of peyronie's? How many of you have absolved the case with a routine of some sort? ALL SAID AND DONE HOW SIMILAR DOES YOUR Dick LOOK AND ACT NOW (NOT INCLUDING LOSS OF SENSATION) COMPARED TO PRE-IMPLANT. 1 BEING COMPLETELY DEFORMED AND 10 BEING GOOD AS NEW. Again, thank you all for your ongoing contribution into this forum. It has proved an excellent resource in my time of need. Hopefully others will find this information before they land in Elist's office.
-luvcoffee
---- I like many others have experienced EXACTLY what you write about here. I have responded to others but in case you didn\'t see it I will try to address some of your questions as they relate to me.
Definitely pay the $2500 and let Dr. Elist take it out and do it ASAP.
I don\'t know anything about
PMMA and after this experience I will never touch that area again with trying to change what I was born with.
I had a
Dermatologist laser my scare and use shots. It may have made it a softer scare but no real change.
After a year of
Removal I still have no feeling in 70% nor have I gained back any
Erect length. I lost 2 inches.
I do have a curvature now when
Erect that I didn\'t have before. When not
Erect it does look like it did before I had the damn thing put in.
I bought a battery powered pump that I have use everyday. I also bought the size genetics stretcher that I wear 6 to 8 hours a day at least 5 days per week. After doing this for 7 months I have not seen any results but I plan to give it 2 years.
Dr. Elist prescribes nitrobid for the numbness but it gives me a headache. I believe it has nitroglycerin in it. If so you should not take it with ED meds but Dr. Elist wont tell you this.
You are not alone in your despair. If only I had researched this more I would have NOT done it. Dr. Elist preys on men who have any interest in being larger. I don\'t understand how he keeps getting away with it. I know nothing is 100% but I don\'t think many if any leave the device in.
You are right to use this forum. The guys on here are ALL Very understanding and helpful. They helped me get through in the beginning, In time your mind settles down and your mental well being improves. Don\'t give up!
I hope this helped you in some small measure.
