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@VoltzZz I get what you're saying, and don't get me wrong, I have pinched & compressed my shaft in weird ways, but my perplexity came from the realization that I would try this well after the 6-week minimum, at which time my many Practitioners permit follow-up rounds; in other words, other than the prescribed massaging of my unit in the first few days/first week, I saw no reason to apply unnecessary stress or pressure to an area until I knew I was in the clear (and in the original poster's case, he was 3-weeks post-op).

Maybe it came out the wrong way, I wasn't suggesting there is an incessant behavior of obsessively pinching the skin by the original poster, and I tend to forget that not everyone is privy to recovery periods and can easily be alarmed by something of this nature.

Pardon me if my comments seemed insensitive or dismissive, that was not the intent. When I respond to posts, I sometimes also try to respond to the Readership/Community as a whole because my responses come from a place of sincerity (and knowledge/experience), so I try to speak to everyone as much as I try to answer/discuss the topic directly.

Curious on why you dissolved the HA? Just wanted something more permanent?

Skeptical_One wrote:

Fatoes1 wrote: Well I’m currently 3 weeks post-op the injections. And the thing is that if it was just a prickly sensation i wouldn’t worry that much. But when i squeenze the edge of the filler within a couple seconds my dick will burn like hell, and it will continue burning for 10-20 seconds. While not squeezing i don’t feel anything.
I can also mastrubate without any pain, it’s really the squeezing of the filler wich activates the burning.

Before i have had Voluma and Volux but never had any problems. After 20ml of that, i had it dissolved to start with Ellanse and now have had 2 sessions of Ellanse, 1 of 6ml and 1 of 5ml.

Have another session planned for next week but i dont know if i should proceed with these complaints..

If you can masturbate without pain but can trigger this uncomfortable sensation by selectively pinching the very edge of it (presumably with some force), then it is likely residual inflammation 3 weeks out. I suppose if you did any procedure (elective or otherwise) and poked & prodded the procedure site specifically, you'd get similar reactions freshly post-op. Is it really a complaint if you are aggravating a procedure site that is known to take weeks to undergo girth growth (which includes the creation of collagen, elastin, and vascularization, among other processes)?

With Linnea Safe brand PMMA for example (similar to Ellanse in terms of how collagen is built), Clinics like Avanti Derma (high volume injector of PMMA and Ellanse) require a minimum of 6 weeks before considering a 2nd round of injections. Although I don't know if this still the rule, I'm citing this example to explain that this tells me that the processes triggered by the presence of the microspheres can continue well into the 3 week stage -- which may very well explain why agitating the dermal implant creates what I suspect is an inflammatory response.

In other words, STOP PINCHING IT! Continued pestering and pinching of this area may only exacerbate it and lengthen the time for it to heal & resolve on its own. The fact that there is NO more swelling, bruising, redness, or unprovoked pain, let alone any signs of infection, tells me you are coming along normally -- heck, even user VoltzZz confirmed that such an experience is possible; some of us heal, recover, and deal with neocollagenesis & inflammation in different ways with varying degrees.

As for your follow-up appointment, I think 4 weeks might be too soon, but then again, this isn't Ellanse and not PMMA (similar but not identical), and since you only had 6mL's of product, the Doctor may believe you are in the green for further injections at this time (my 6 weeks rule was based on a standard set by one Clinic years ago for PMMA, so it is possible this is no longer the norm and/or the time window is a bit more discretionary based on each patient's unique circumstances, and how policies in regards to these injections varies per filler-type and Clinic as well).

If they are a PhalloBoards Sponsor, I trust you'll be fine, especially since they can gauge the efficaciousness of performing that day or postponing based on what they see once "breaking skin." If they are not, I would perhaps consider postponing through the 6th, if not the 8th week marker (without ANY pinching in the interim), and then doing a mild pinch test on the 6th (or 8th week marker, whichever you choose) and ONLY THEN. Depending on the levels of pain (if any), decide whether or not to move forward with additional work, or wait it out and/or attempt resolving it before any further considerations.

As you can see with Member VoltzZz, his anomalous inflammation (an anomaly in terms of "burning" versus "prickliness", since the former is far less reported than the latter by a significant margin; as a matter of fact this may be the 2nd time I've heard of long-term intense burning due to the aggressive manipulation of a dermal filler from memory -- yours + VoltzZz... any other times must have been so infrequently reported that I can't call it to memory), it eventually resolves on its own but can take a while. It's impossible to say with your situation but then again, why will you need to pinch your penis periodically anyways? Not dismissing it outright, there can always be underlying issues at play that are not apparent, which is why I will double-down on my recommendation: If it is a PhalloBoards Sponsor, I can trust that if you provide them this information, they can make the necessary call on whether or not a procedure that day is appropriate, and if they are a non-Sponsor, to consider postponement (not saying you should postpone 100%, but simply to consider it more thoroughly).

Good luck.

I see you're perplexed as to why someone would be pinching their penis lol. I'm sure you've had that random out of no where itch on your shaft that's almost impossible to alleviate with a scratch so sometimes you have to pinch through your pants....If you recall I ended up with an infection after my 2nd round. The burn could be residual inflammation as you stated to Fatoes1. This is something I addressed with Dr C and I was told it would slowly go away so I wasn't concerned. Never the less it did and I'm perfectly fine.

Fatoes1 wrote: Well I’m currently 3 weeks post-op the injections. And the thing is that if it was just a prickly sensation i wouldn’t worry that much. But when i squeenze the edge of the filler within a couple seconds my dick will burn like hell, and it will continue burning for 10-20 seconds. While not squeezing i don’t feel anything.
I can also mastrubate without any pain, it’s really the squeezing of the filler wich activates the burning.

Before i have had Voluma and Volux but never had any problems. After 20ml of that, i had it dissolved to start with Ellanse and now have had 2 sessions of Ellanse, 1 of 6ml and 1 of 5ml.

Have another session planned for next week but i dont know if i should proceed with these complaints..

If you can masturbate without pain but can trigger this uncomfortable sensation by selectively pinching the very edge of it (presumably with some force), then it is likely residual inflammation 3 weeks out. I suppose if you did any procedure (elective or otherwise) and poked & prodded the procedure site specifically, you'd get similar reactions freshly post-op. Is it really a complaint if you are aggravating a procedure site that is known to take weeks to undergo girth growth (which includes the creation of collagen, elastin, and vascularization, among other processes)?

With Linnea Safe brand PMMA for example (similar to Ellanse in terms of how collagen is built), Clinics like Avanti Derma (high volume injector of PMMA and Ellanse) require a minimum of 6 weeks before considering a 2nd round of injections. Although I don't know if this still the rule, I'm citing this example to explain that this tells me that the processes triggered by the presence of the microspheres can continue well into the 3 week stage -- which may very well explain why agitating the dermal implant creates what I suspect is an inflammatory response.

In other words, STOP PINCHING IT! Continued pestering and pinching of this area may only exacerbate it and lengthen the time for it to heal & resolve on its own. The fact that there is NO more swelling, bruising, redness, or unprovoked pain, let alone any signs of infection, tells me you are coming along normally -- heck, even user VoltzZz confirmed that such an experience is possible; some of us heal, recover, and deal with neocollagenesis & inflammation in different ways with varying degrees.

As for your follow-up appointment, I think 4 weeks might be too soon, but then again, this isn't Ellanse and not PMMA (similar but not identical), and since you only had 6mL's of product, the Doctor may believe you are in the green for further injections at this time (my 6 weeks rule was based on a standard set by one Clinic years ago for PMMA, so it is possible this is no longer the norm and/or the time window is a bit more discretionary based on each patient's unique circumstances, and how policies in regards to these injections varies per filler-type and Clinic as well).

If they are a PhalloBoards Sponsor, I trust you'll be fine, especially since they can gauge the efficaciousness of performing that day or postponing based on what they see once "breaking skin." If they are not, I would perhaps consider postponing through the 6th, if not the 8th week marker (without ANY pinching in the interim), and then doing a mild pinch test on the 6th (or 8th week marker, whichever you choose) and ONLY THEN. Depending on the levels of pain (if any), decide whether or not to move forward with additional work, or wait it out and/or attempt resolving it before any further considerations.

As you can see with Member VoltzZz, his anomalous inflammation (an anomaly in terms of "burning" versus "prickliness", since the former is far less reported than the latter by a significant margin; as a matter of fact this may be the 2nd time I've heard of long-term intense burning due to the aggressive manipulation of a dermal filler from memory -- yours + VoltzZz... any other times must have been so infrequently reported that I can't call it to memory), it eventually resolves on its own but can take a while. It's impossible to say with your situation but then again, why will you need to pinch your penis periodically anyways? Not dismissing it outright, there can always be underlying issues at play that are not apparent, which is why I will double-down on my recommendation: If it is a PhalloBoards Sponsor, I can trust that if you provide them this information, they can make the necessary call on whether or not a procedure that day is appropriate, and if they are a non-Sponsor, to consider postponement (not saying you should postpone 100%, but simply to consider it more thoroughly).

Good luck.

I had the same experience with my 2nd round of PMMA. If I pinched or scratched the sides of my shaft I would experience an intense burning sensation that lasted 20 to 30 seconds. It took approx 6 months for that to stop happening. It never happened with intercourse etc.

atxguy wrote: I'm leery of PMMA after my experience. You can check out my progress updates. I had very few nodules with CMC(i know...I know)....BUT the 3rd procedure was a PMMA mix and I had about 30 nodules and had to have it removed. Disaster all the way around. Huge regrets on PMMA and the surgery.

You had work performed by someone who can't provide you definitive proof, studies, or FDA approval of what was injected inside of you, regardless of whatever he might have indicated. To conflate this with the common PMMA injections discussed here on the forums is both irresponsible and shortsighted when you consider this to be a platform for information gathering & fact checking.

We are happy to help but please be mindful of how you describe your situation as it has nothing to do with ethical, regulatory-body approved dermal fillers.

I ask you desist from calling your filler PMMA, heck don't even call it silicone because we really don't know. Call it Loria's Proprietary bullsh*t, or an unregulated proprietary filler, respectfully.

Demonstrably successful iterations of PMMA like Linnea Safe and Bellafill need not be confused with your situation, and I understand your frustrations so I'm writing this as a courtesy reminder to be mindful of context and details -- I don't wish to suspend any account who genuinely needs help from this Forum, but I can't tolerate misinformation, even if unintentional. I know you mean well, but what you endured is far from the norm in terms of user experiences here.

I hope you have my understanding.

What clinic did this? Thanks

Gains are .5-1mm per month now . Ellanse isn’t disappearing . I’d like to reshape but until ellanse leaves I won’t risk . I’ve stopped p-long prp . At these small gains per month , it isn’t worth the cost of prp . Still extending tho .

Overall at 10 bpfsl. 9 bpel

So here is my thought about silicone and then PMMA. First off silicone is not approved as a dermal filler at all by the FDA. Secondly, it should be strongly prohibited from use in penis. Silicone is a filler that spreads and migrates. Never does it become one with the body, rather the body is always trying to push it out.

PMMA on the other hand has been approved by FDA as a dermal filler. It is used off label as a filler in the penis. Now the big difference is the body encapsulates the microspheres, forming vascularization around them and essentially locking them in place, hopefully preventing migration.

Placing PMMA over silicone or within silicone is a very poor choice. This is because PMMA needs to be encapsulated, which if placed within silicone prevents that. The PMMA then incites an inflammatory reaction and in this situation a bunch of nodules.

With silicone, in time things would most likely have gone south. With PMMA, there is a much greater chance for integration and successful augmentation

Concerning use of PMMA after Ellanse…..well, they both stimulate collagen through inflammation and thus collagen deposition, however one is longterm semi perm and the other, we presume, is permanent. My feeling is, as Ellanse begins to wear down, the body will aggressively eat away at it by means of macrophages and phagocytes. This may cause more inflammation around the permanent PMMA. There may be a chance of nodule formation because the two stimulatory fillers degrade at different rates.

Who knows.

Well I’m currently 3 weeks post-op the injections. And the thing is that if it was just a prickly sensation i wouldn’t worry that much. But when i squeenze the edge of the filler within a couple seconds my dick will burn like hell, and it will continue burning for 10-20 seconds. While not squeezing i don’t feel anything.
I can also mastrubate without any pain, it’s really the squeezing of the filler wich activates the burning.

Before i have had Voluma and Volux but never had any problems. After 20ml of that, i had it dissolved to start with Ellanse and now have had 2 sessions of Ellanse, 1 of 6ml and 1 of 5ml.

Have another session planned for next week but i dont know if i should proceed with these complaints..

can you better identify what you mean by "normal HA"....Thanks

I am not sure if I've lost a very little of size, seems as the density has slightly decreased if that makes sense. Slight dips here and there. I was thinking of a small Overall Even touch up. Which is why I was asking if I should stick with Ellanse or go the PMMA route. Part of me wants to just stick with the same product, but I am not sure as I'm not an expert. How do you like your Ellanse?

Fatoes1 wrote: Has anyone here using Ellanse have had a burning feeling inside the penis when manipulating the filler?

I have had normal HA several times before in the past and never have i had this feeling before. This also was my second round of Ellanse and it was just a top up of 6ML.

When i ask the doc that injected me he says that the filler itself shouldn’t be painful and maybe it’s a little inflammation.

But my Dick is not swollen anymore at all and there is no redness or anything. It’s just when i touch the place where the filler ends (on my Circumcision scar), you can feel a ring like ridge. When i rub or squeeze there it burns like hell for a couple seconds and then disappears.

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and or what is the solution for it?

We'll need some more information than that. Like how recently fresh are you post-op from these Ellanse injections? If you are still recovering, there can certainly be tenderness (and rubbing & squeezing can make that tenderness a bit more noticeable).

Also, some men do report prickly sensations (not high in pain per se) after PMMA injections, and Ellanse works very similarly in how your body produces the collagen (girth), and you could just be experiencing more inflammation than usual.

If this were like 6 months post-op and the act of masturbating was prohibitive due to pain, I'd be concerned, but until we have a bigger and clearer picture of your circumstances, it doesn't sound alarming from what I can gather.

Has anyone here using Ellanse have had a burning feeling inside the penis when manipulating the filler?

I have had normal HA several times before in the past and never have i had this feeling before. This also was my second round of Ellanse and it was just a top up of 6ML.

When i ask the doc that injected me he says that the filler itself shouldn’t be painful and maybe it’s a little inflammation.

But my Dick is not swollen anymore at all and there is no redness or anything. It’s just when i touch the place where the filler ends (on my Circumcision scar), you can feel a ring like ridge. When i rub or squeeze there it burns like hell for a couple seconds and then disappears.

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and or what is the solution for it?

I’m 3 years into 2 and 3 year product and have lost zero size when fully hard.

I’ve thought about going pmma as it’s cheeper and they have the one with less material in it for better smoothing, but so far I’m sticking with ellanse.

Have you lost size?