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@lurkin how much pmma do you have? I'm worried with my amount that I could cause deformation using a bib hanger with intense compression. I'll take a look at the phalback. I know of the phallonsan and other extenders...but the vibration element it new to me

Hey thanks for sharing. I’m always trying to gauge at what point it would be too much filler but even 7.5 doesn’t seem that crazy if you have the length to support it.

Here’s the info on Phalback, it’s just a faster method of pumping. Apparently vibration cuts the time in half with pumping or hanging.

lurkin wrote: Hey I just wanted to chime in. As I said before, when phalback was blowing up on Reddit I purchased the prototype of the pump that mimics the same protocol in July 2024. This one: elitemaletraining.com/

The only difference between the two models is that the pro has a controller for the vibration- the vibration motor you buy separately.

I did not gain an inch, but vibration supposedly speeds up the time needed to pack a tube. Same with extending, although they say not to exceed 20-30 min a day of vibration.

I attached a routine for vibration interval pumping, and I do believe I got some gains, just not one inch. I figure it can't hurt to continue using this as many users have pointed out that Avanti and others have recommended pumping for one+ month prior to going for PMMA injections will allow for more filler to be injected since the penis is already conditioned to a size beyond your normal erection. Just have to wait 8 weeks in between procedures to start seriously pumping and extending.

Vibration for me just cut the time in half whether pumping or extending.

lurkin wrote: Ah I'm surprised to see this here. When I saw this blew up on Reddit in the Spring I wanted to try it. Long story short someone DIY'd it and I built a similar unit:

www.reddit.com/r/gettingbigger/comments/...iy_pb_interval_pump/

A couple things to note, the interval pump the DIY community is using is a modified breast pump. They actually are going to have a version you can buy for about $250 that has everything built in. I bought the older version that required you buy a separate power supply for the motor. You don't need to by 4 clamps, just two as I didn't really need the handle. I used a towel to prop everything up and keep the cylinder or a 45* angle as you sit down.

This is the recommended motor 12v 25w 30kg
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/DC12V-24V...9c63.jpg_200x200.jpg

The Phalback protocol calls for a pump cylinder slightly larger than your girth. Typically I would use 1.75" cylinder which is 5.5 inch circumference and my girth was like 5.3 or 5.4 flaccid since the purpose is for length not girth. They also used some kind of lubricant like coconut oil, and he vibration only was on during the vacuum interval, usually the vibration setting up to 3-5 on the knob.

www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807406988037....dd-b12d-2b811f545fb2

Ah and here was the interval pump in action:
youtube.com/shorts/i9mckoUrZRg?si=Yv0yREzyaG02BmOR

And the protocol I followed for for phalback was 15s on 5s off for 20 min going up to 17inhg for the last 6 min or so.

karlwikman had a protocol as follows:
2 min 25cmhg static
5 min 35cmhg 10s on 2s off
5 min 40cmhg 8s on 2s off
5 min 44cmhg 6s on 2s off

And Chad's detailed blog of him using the actual phalback machine: chadthunderpeen.wordpress.com/

I use the hog stretcher or hog vibe: although they recommend not more than 20-30 minutes of vibration for the day. Phalback protocol is twice a day but it’s in intervals so the vibration exposure is less than 30 minutes.

Maybe reach out to honestpe.shop/ to see if he can make you a custom hog vibe as your girth might be too big for the stretcher.

I also use the male hanger which looks like it is the improved version of the bib hanger. I would think the filler is fully settled after 2 months but if it’s been longer I don’t see why you couldn’t do compression hanging. I usually only do 10lb but I guess I would start off with 5 and work your way up. I only max out at 13lb or so for a 20 minute session before I need a 2 minute break.

Hi guys,

I used to hang religiously, got up to 15-20lbs using a vac hanger and tape on the glans. Used to use the Bib Hanger as well before switching over to a vac cup over the glans.
I got to roughly 7" in erect length and that is when I moved over to PMMA filler, an Alloderm graft and a lig cut.
The lig cut got me literally nothing in erect length gains, but of course helped with flaccid hang gains, which has been beneficial to my PMMA journey.

In total I have 93ccs of PMMA filler, both Bellafill and Linneasafe (Pics attached)
Current EG is now 7.5" (started at 5.5")
Current BPEL is 7"


I would LOVE to get back into hanging and try to gain some additional length now with the ligs cut and my PMMA journey coming to a close...but I'm terrified of screwing up what I've worked on over the past year and a half :/

How are we supposed to hang and not completely deform or fuck up the filler and/or grafts?
Wouldn't a Bib Hanger move or leave indentations?
I think the vac cup would be the way to go...but it would still be pulling heavily on the shaft where the silicon sleeve is placed over and connected to the cap. Would that not pull the PMMA towards the head and potentially build a ring by the glans?
Also, no idea how to even put on a silicon sleeve anymore being this thick

Apologies if this is the wrong place to post this thread, but I'm truly at a lose after digging through older threads about this. It seemed nobody had a concrete answer or solution

Thank you in advance and good luck to everyone's gains journey!


PS. I would NOT jump back to hanging with that much weight again, I figure 5-10lbs range would be perfect for a long hanging session if I could do it without damage to the new penis

Coastalcock wrote: Awesome results brother!

I probably won’t go past 7” girth, I’m only right at 7” length and “ square” is probably my stopping point…… probably.

As to “ someone calling you out on it”. If they are spending that long looking at my dick, there are other issues, and just like a boob job, only catty jealous folks are going to comment that way, to which I would reply looking down “ yep, and you REALLY ought to consider it based on what I’m seeing” As for the ladies, I got one comment on a cruise. I was sitting out on the 5th deck having a cigar, Loose shorts and sitting ankle over my knee. When in this position , especially with my glans ring on, I tend to slide down to the left. Anyway she sat down across from me to have a cigarette, and she was obviously imbibing more than I was for the hour. After a couple of minutes she just blurts out “ is that your dick!!??” With that “drunk/eager” I looked down, noticing that the leg of my shorts had crept up a bit, but I wasn’t exposed or anything, just really outlined. I smiled and said “yep”. Thankfully the Missus arrived and saved me from further questioning.

Of course now I’m likely to to say “Yep, but you oughta see 6x5to6x7 or justn8”.

You just can’t take life too seriously, we almost never get as much of it as we want.

Thanks. Well said. Totally agree.

Awesome results brother!

I probably won’t go past 7” girth, I’m only right at 7” length and “ square” is probably my stopping point…… probably.

As to “ someone calling you out on it”. If they are spending that long looking at my dick, there are other issues, and just like a boob job, only catty jealous folks are going to comment that way, to which I would reply looking down “ yep, and you REALLY ought to consider it based on what I’m seeing” As for the ladies, I got one comment on a cruise. I was sitting out on the 5th deck having a cigar, Loose shorts and sitting ankle over my knee. When in this position , especially with my glans ring on, I tend to slide down to the left. Anyway she sat down across from me to have a cigarette, and she was obviously imbibing more than I was for the hour. After a couple of minutes she just blurts out “ is that your dick!!??” With that “drunk/eager” I looked down, noticing that the leg of my shorts had crept up a bit, but I wasn’t exposed or anything, just really outlined. I smiled and said “yep”. Thankfully the Missus arrived and saved me from further questioning.

Of course now I’m likely to to say “Yep, but you oughta see 6x5to6x7 or justn8”.

You just can’t take life too seriously, we almost never get as much of it as we want.

HI all,

Long time lurker here, the info here (on what is a very personal and not oft-talked about topic) is invaluable. The conversations here prompted me to finally get a ligament cut procedure with Dr. Victor Liu after thinking over it for a decade (scheduled to be done in a few weeks). I'm obviously nervous about getting such a major procedure done and what might happen in case things go wrong, but thought of starting this thread as another real world progress report. I'm going into this procedure with my eyes open and not expecting much. For the record, I'm uncut and at 4.5" erect (I don't do BPEL or anything like that, I just measure the usable length). I've had good partners thus far and enjoyed my sex life, but always wished I could add a bit more. I've tried practically every enlargement device/regimen there is (stuff from monkeybar which I tried for quite a bit, the noose extenders for while, vac extenders, weight hanging, Bib hanger, pegym and other forums, you name it) on and off but got no success. Perhaps it was my lack of "full" commitment or (more likely) simply genetics.

One question I had before I have my procedure done was about Dr. Liu saying he only cuts 90% of the deep suspensory ligament to preserve some stability during sex. I'm curious if other docs just detach the entire ligament (something which Dr. Liu offered if I wanted but did not recommend)? Also wondering if the penis can be elongated without full detachment in the first place. If anyone has any experience on this subject, I'd appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks to all for all the helpful info (especially from Skiman and SouthBay612), I'll do my bit to document my journey as well and will try to be as detailed as possible.

Apologies for the double post

@Texas
You mentioned not using a vac hanger on your aftercare thread if you had a graft done or fillers, correct? I own the bib hanger, and a vac hanger, the vac hanger isn't that tight to be honest...since mainly hanging with the pressure on the glands. What would you recommend as the best method for hanging following this procedure? I also have this still on system leg strap, though I'm wondering if a noose could leave an indentation/gap right behind the glands?

MacVette07 wrote: Great info. That is a hell of a deal for everything that you get. I look forward to seeing your progress and hearing how effective the pre-mature ejaculation portion was. Did they only cut at the pelvis or did they also cut around the circ scar like I see them do in their video?

They installed the Megaderm graft from pubic bone region. They offered to do it from the circmumsicion scar to offer me a better esthetic resulting circmumsicion but I was too chicken to let them do it. In my mind I said to my self what's done is done in the past and I don't like to take any extra unnecessary risks. I had my original circmumsicion here in Cyprus in February 2023 so I didn't want more scar tissue in the same area duplicated also having stitches right next to my graft just didn't sit well with me. I know I'm a bit paranoid but that's just a part of my nature. Besides even though my original circmumsicion isn't the best looking it worked..I achieved 7 inch erection prior to the procedure in Korea.

I really hope that once this skin graft is fully integrated that I can still have that length or at least very close to it. I really hope that.

P.s In my previous post I said I was biased against ligament cut. But that doesn't change the fact that I have never done it, and if Proud Urology would do it for you I am pretty sure they would do a great job.

Additionally their 5S procedure is really value packed so let's say you had the extra cash to spend and enough penile skin to have ligament cut and that biggest Megaderm graft they offer + you win the ligament size increase (""), I would have no doubt in my mind they could theoretically make you enormous. And the Megaderm does have a certain weight to it, I can testify to that!. My flaccid length on its own before was like 11cm maybe a tiny bit less on a cold day. But now it's actually 0.5 - 1 cm longer when it's untouched and free to hang...And I did not even have the ligament cut! The 5x8cm graft gave my dick a certain weight to it. I guess I am saying I can kiss retracting penis good bye to an extent. How ever I live in a very hot country anyway. Can't put my hand on the bible that this will be the cas in the winter or for people in very cold climates.

I hope I am making sense...a ligament cut, plus the weight of a 5x10cm skin graft might actually hold your extra length in position. I am speculating though to be honest.

I was just not rich enough and basically a bit too much of a coward to take the chance because I don't like ("") for the extra flaccid length. But if I had the money after experiencing their skills..I might now. Oh well water under the bridge now as they say. Below are my latest (By the way my hands are quite big oddly enough) :"completely" flaccid BASE girth of 13.5cm is still holding and MID girth of 13.3cm approximately. I have to be careful when I measure because the compressive wrap bandage does make the size a bit tighter due to compressing the skin around the implant, and also being out of the compressive wrap for too long might caused swelling. But I feel safe saying I am between 13-13.5cm flaccid girth range and I am very happy about that because I know I am a grower anyway. When I finally get to 100% erections my penis girth will be really impressive and I really can't wait to show you guys, because those are the numbers that matter the most to me! And you cannot BS your away around a rock solid erection it's ironclad.

SouthBay612 wrote: @Texas @EricPig what do you recommend for hangers? I got my lig cut and doc has me wearing what I'd describe as a "weighted vest" which works, but easily falls off. I watched that video and he mentioned BibHanger - checked out the website and it looks pretty old school so not sure if it's even still a thing. Also heard Skiman mention Malehanger, which seems like it could work.

Any recos? I'll keep searching the forum too...

Just saw a post from Texas which was helpful. Sorry, should have looked harder first!
Clamp style hangers are a must, I can attest to actually having trackable gains from using my "p-hanger" ( its basically a Male hanger / Bib Hanger / etc etc ). Also. while using this style of hanger, i would use a hanger that attaches to ONLY the head area: like a noose ( from Zen Hanger ) and/or a small Clamp Style ( home made ).

@Texas @EricPig what do you recommend for hangers? I got my lig cut and doc has me wearing what I'd describe as a "weighted vest" which works, but easily falls off. I watched that video and he mentioned BibHanger - checked out the website and it looks pretty old school so not sure if it's even still a thing. Also heard Skiman mention Malehanger, which seems like it could work.

Any recos? I'll keep searching the forum too...

I went to Avanti and would recommend. I almost went for Round 3 this week actually but canceled because of scheduling issues. May be for the best since the wife is going to get vaginoplasty later this year tlans they're going to make her "1 finger" tight.

I'm using the Male Hanger. Went for BIB first but the website is 30 years old and unprofessional so I dodged.

Currently doing 3 to 4 sets per day. Started at 20 min sets but due to how much pressure I need for the hanger I was getting cold glans so I increased weight but reduced time. But I'm figuring this out a little more each time I do it. Currently using the BTC between the cheeks method.

@Dthom
It sounds to me like you are moving in the right direction. The 2 hours a day is a great benchmark to hit. The second would be to track your progress every 100hrs of hanging. I think the weight is fine ( at this point ) if you are used to it and handling it well.
BUT...... Lets discuss what type of hanger you are using and next lets discuss having you alternate the types of hangers. Contrary to the popular beliefs out there - Vac hangers produce the least amount gains off all. They do have their place though and should be rotated through. Clamp style hangers are a must, I can attest to actually having trackable gains from using my "p-hanger" ( its basically a Male hanger / Bib Hanger / etc etc ). Also. while using this style of hanger, i would use a hanger that attaches to ONLY the head area: like a noose ( from Zen Hanger ) and/or a small Clamp Style ( home made ). before anyone talks about Noose being bad - Yeah they are, if you use them wrong or to long and without padding. I can use mine for an hour , or a bit more, with out a problem or pain - and if I do get a bit of irritation I stop at once and switch to vac style and either hang or stretch. All of the aforementioned pull differently. Also, each will have different weight capacities. For Example: For me: I am only using head style hanger right now for mine, and vac style and a noose for my stretching. When using a head style ( noose or clamp ) you will find that the weight amount you can is much less. Conversely, when you do Clamp Style ( bib / p-hanger / etc ) you will notice you can do more; but that doesnt mean you should, lol, given the scar i mentioned from the other post.

Hope this helps brother.

GirthyGoals wrote: Texas post a great aftercare routine. I believe it's in the pinned post on top. At avanti they'll give you a noose hanger and wraps. The biggest thing to focus on in your aftercare is keeping it elongated to prevent turtling and massaging everything. Into place while it is malleable. Don't use any device that grips the shaft itself for example Bib's hanger. If using a hanger use one that grips right behind the glans. Also I know texas was big on them and after reading some of his stuff I purchased some. Sleeves. I know he's referenced autoxleeve before

Are you saying use the autoxleeve instead of wrapping?

GirthyGoals wrote: Texas post a great aftercare routine. I believe it's in the pinned post on top. At avanti they'll give you a noose hanger and wraps. The biggest thing to focus on in your aftercare is keeping it elongated to prevent turtling and massaging everything. Into place while it is malleable. Don't use any device that grips the shaft itself for example Bib's hanger. If using a hanger use one that grips right behind the glans. Also I know texas was big on them and after reading some of his stuff I purchased some. Sleeves. I know he's referenced autoxleeve before

So is it advisable to use sleeves, autoextender devices, etc that is not provided by Avanti? Shouldn’t the noose they provide and massage instructions be sufficient?

Texas post a great aftercare routine. I believe it's in the pinned post on top. At avanti they'll give you a noose hanger and wraps. The biggest thing to focus on in your aftercare is keeping it elongated to prevent turtling and massaging everything. Into place while it is malleable. Don't use any device that grips the shaft itself for example Bib's hanger. If using a hanger use one that grips right behind the glans. Also I know texas was big on them and after reading some of his stuff I purchased some. Sleeves. I know he's referenced autoxleeve before