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That was HA, not Radiesse.

Didn\'t we have a guy who self injected? I don\'t remember his out come. Not that we should try that. But I thought he used a lot more then 2 or 3 cc.
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@openraptor Would be nice also if the price of radiesse would go down or the technique modfied so one could get higher gain per treatment.I dont know why 2 or 3 cc are the max that can be injected to gain 20% gain.If the technique could be refined it would be great.

Hope it works out for you Yao. Where is this Dr.G located?

Curious if you can add Radiesse after having had the PMMA procedure done

Thanks for the update.

I think regular top-offs to maintain at least a minimum girth of your choosing it a great way to go. For example, say you are 5.0 EG pre-procedure and want to achieve a minimum girth of 5.5 but the procedure gives 6.0, then you are set for a year or so. When you dip to less than 5.5, go get another round and enjoy for another year. Seems like a somewhat manageable and safe way to maintain girth until another method is discovered, especially a permanent one. I think if PMMA users report satisfaction another five years from now, then we will know which way to go.

Also, is Dr. G the physician in Tampa Fl?

I\'m sure Dr Ralph would be receptive, but as far as I know he\'s insanely busy. I\'m going to make an appointment to see him in Jan, so I\'ll talk to him about it then.

I actually think the best thing would be for Dr G to produce a short youtube clip. It\'s not really something that needs teaching per se, just demonstrating. We know both Mr Viel and Mr Ralph have experience using fillers in the penis. I think all Dr G really needs to do is show his injection technique. Basically just film his next procedure, if he is prepared to do so.

Hi Guys, Day 6 update. No complications so far...just a slight bulge under the circumcision scar but nothing to worry about so far as the penis feels normal and hangs quite low. The filler makes me feel normal as I dont retract as I use to do. I managed to the other day measure 4.5 EG which is a 0.5 gain. Received an email from the doc saying I will continue getting gains up to month 7. He also said, I can do more injections after week 8 to get more gain if required. I spoke to him regarding the possibility of teaching his technique to Docs in Europe something he was positive to.He asked me to ask the Dr who want to learn the technique to email him. As the procedure was quick and looked relatively straight forward I dont think the training requires the student Dr to fly over to the US - I think email instructions will do it if the student Dr have experience of penis anatomy.

@Hoddle: what do you think about looping in Dr Ralph into this or any other Doc in UK?



With new Drs in UK, we can get an annual treatment for under 1000' for gains in excess of 0.5-0.7\".

By the way, I received a private message from Harleyman (funnily, just after my treatment) where he says his gains lasted 6 months with radiesse. Dont know what to make out of it. If I can get an increase from 4 to 4.8 or 4.9 EG for two annual sessions under 1000' each I would go for it for couple of years till I have more data to base my PMMA call.

yao: does it feel natural?

Good point.

Well this may be the route I take depending on price. Also I\'ll be interested to see results. Safety is key as well.

openraptor wrote: We are at the forefront of a movement. Penile augmentation is not widely known yet. Increasing awareness and mass marketing with FDA approval is an important marketing technique. And let me just say the FDA is a joke. But if more people want a procedure then other companies will invest to get part of the action. They will fire up R&D to develop products and maybe eventually a safe permanent one. Sure we don\'t need FDA approval but it could help in the process. I\'m only speculating here and I know you may not agree but I would suspect the answer lies somewhere in the middle of our ideas. I greatly appreciate your input and enjoy our conversations. All the best to you sir.

I don\'t want to sound pedantic, but I don\'t have an idea. There is no middle ground. I\'m just pointing out to you why things wont happen in the way you want them to with Radiesse. It\'s not an idea, it\'s just how things work in this industry. The patent runs out in 2020, so no one is going to invest in FDA trails that will take years to complete for a product that can then be copied.

I\'m not disagreeing with your hopes. I think we\'d all like a \"safe\" product that is FDA approved for penis enhancement. I understand your reasoning, I\'m just trying to explain why it wont happen with Radiesse. As I said in a previous thread, the best you can hope for is a Urologist or Plastic surgeon does a study in order to try and get published in a medical journal.

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We are at the forefront of a movement. Penile augmentation is not widely known yet. Increasing awareness and mass marketing with FDA approval is an important marketing technique. And let me just say the FDA is a joke. But if more people want a procedure then other companies will invest to get part of the action. They will fire up R&D to develop products and maybe eventually a safe permanent one. Sure we don\'t need FDA approval but it could help in the process.

I\'m only speculating here and I know you may not agree but I would suspect the answer lies somewhere in the middle of our ideas. I greatly appreciate your input and enjoy our conversations. All the best to you sir.

openraptor wrote: hoddle10, What you told me is appreciated but I disagree with you. Studies and testing lead to development of additional procedures and treatments. This is a science and science builds upon past experience and knowledge. It\'s stands upon the shoulders of giants to reach further. Yes it can and has been used off label but penile enlargement in general is back alley type of stuff. Making it mainstream and readily accessible is the goal. Take your pick but I want greater advancement not stagnancy. And like I\'ve said before, companies are missing out on millions by not developing this, gaining FDA approval, and marketing. Currently google is the only way to discover the procedure and men can be hesitant to mess with their penis especially with off label use methods. Bring it mainstream.

So give me an example of a cosmetic filler than has been approved in one area and then the company went through FDA approval for other areas? Botox doesn\'t count as originally it wasn\'t FDA approved for cosmetic use.

\"Off label\" use isn\'t back alley in the slightest. Most cosmetic fillers are used in this way. They get FDA approval for one area, but are routinely used in other areas by virtually all plastic surgeons. Restylane, the most popular filler on the market, is only approved fro \"wrinkles and folds,\" yet if you went into any plastic surgeon in the US and asked for volume in your cheeks or jaw etc, you can bet it will be a suggested option.

I don\'t think you understand what I\'m saying. Taking it mainstream isn\'t dependent on FDA approval for a particular application.

hoddle10,

What you told me is appreciated but I disagree with you. Studies and testing lead to development of additional procedures and treatments. This is a science and science builds upon past experience and knowledge. It\'s stands upon the shoulders of giants to reach further. Yes it can and has been used off label but penile enlargement in general is back alley type of stuff. Making it mainstream and readily accessible is the goal. Take your pick but I want greater advancement not stagnancy. And like I\'ve said before, companies are missing out on millions by not developing this, gaining FDA approval, and marketing. Currently google is the only way to discover the procedure and men can be hesitant to mess with their penis especially with off label use methods. Bring it mainstream.

openraptor wrote:

hoddle10 wrote: It\'s the same mechanism as PMMA. It\'s not HA.

Yes, this I know. I should have been more clear and articulate. My apologies.

Still, Raidesse is considered a temporary dermal filler. This is something we should be talking about. Doesn\'t it make sense that more physicians would be willing to utilize these dermal fillers for penile augmentation if the appropriate testing and research was completed? Imagine getting FDA approval for use of Radiesse or other filler for penile augmentation. It would revolutionize the field and millions of men would finally have a mass-market procedure to help their confidence and sex life. This really is a booming business waiting to happen. Thankfully, I am currently a medical student and if I play my cards right, maybe I will end up with a surgical residency that in future years will allow me to pursue this.

We have spoken about it a lot.

I\'ve already told you about testing in a previous thread. It\'s not worth getting approval for use in the penis when it can already be used \"off label\" for that purpose.