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Can you comment on the longevity of Radiesse? How is the feeling of it as toplayer, before you got HA ontop?
I consider adding something I already have Ellanse which should be similiar to your pmma. How can you compare the hardness when errect?
And may I ask how much they ask for radiesse

In facial studies, collagen formed by Radiesse is present in 40% of patients after 2yrs. This means 60% of patients have lost the benefits while a portion of the 40% will go on past 2yrs. The longevity varies from person to person. I have a patient who returned 33 months after augmentation with my blend of Radiesse and HA. He did lose volume compared to his peak but he was still larger than baseline.

Most of my patients repeat on an annual basis, sometimes sooner, sometimes later. Chances are you will return for more before it all dissipates. You get used to your size and want to go a little bigger. My patients claim it is addictive.

Is there any estimation how long the radiesse will last? Will some of the gains be permanent?

Thank you so much for this glowing review. Your happiness is what brings me joy. Most would consider your case to have a high level of difficulty due to the Peyronie’s curvature and being uncircumcised. Glad I was able to rise to the occasion. Your case also demonstrates the importance of performing the augmentation while erect. I would never have been able to appreciate the curvature if you were flaccid. Please keep us informed about your progress but I’m absolutely delighted for you. There are many choices out there and I’m honored that you chose me. Much appreciated.

The first couple weeks the penis feels very firm post HA injections. I’m curious to see how the radiesse helps it hold this feel. I’ve found that even with volux it’s quite soft after a while. Keep us updated with the look and feel and congrats on the great outcome so far

it looks a lot better than I thought. I am very conscious about aesthetics and seriously it does not look bad at all. feels very natural. It clumps a bit at a certain spot when retracted but im molding it and it helps and its supposed to soften within a few weeks will see. To be honest, it loos absolutely perfect when semi retracted, then a bit less if fully retracted but still a lot better than before injection. I really thought it would be very noticeable and everyone on this forum seems to think the results are catastrophic on uncut guys but really the results are way above expectations. It really feels natural. My boyfriend can't believe it, he says he wouldnt know I had a procedure if he met me like this. Dont get circumcised for this. To be honest I think it looks better on uncut guys!

Wow. Incredible result. I've been in contact with him, but wasn't sure if I should get circumcised first. Just curious, what does it look like with foreskin pulled back? Does he feather in filler in the foreskin?

Yeah it looks great. Plus who would complain about bigger too right?

Seriously though good for you!

Thanks bro! He does have good knowledge about it, however I consider I already spent enough money on remedies for peyronies without any improvement. So I decided to opt for a reconstructive treatment that would have immediate effect. It worked.

Man excellent results! Glad it worked out for you. I've never really asked since it didn't apply to me but I know he has a broad spectrum of knowledge and options for peyronies and other issues.

Can't remember if we've talked or I'm the one you saw who helped with the choice but without sounding like a broken record, he is hands down one of the best docs I've ever dealt with in general, great guy.

After about three years hesitating because of the mitigated results, my foreskin and some health conditions, I finally found a Dr. in Canada that seemed to offer something as competitive and professional as the clinics we all know worldwide. I was looking at his results and I was just amazed. Another guy on here posted about him and that helped me take the decision.

For years I have been hating my penis and it has been a real mental challenge for me. I have suffered with peyronies disease and penile fibrosis and my penis lost about 40% of its girth. Ive been dealing with depression and severe anxiety constantly for at least 3 years. I thought about suicide countless times.

I did not know if if was going to be a good idea to do that on top of my conditions but all surgeries available seemed to be worse than receiving semi permanent fillers.

So I decided to go ahead with Dr. Leonardo after a virtual appointment. As soon as the procedure was finished, my life was changed. Not only my curve is gone, I now have much more girth. I think he's got the recipe! He also has a lot of experience with uncut guys.

See my impressive results! Im loving it! Thanks Dr.Leonardo!

I am on day 3 post procedure even though its bruised and swelled I love the results and my confidence just increase 100000% . If your penis makes your life miserable, dont hesitate, just do it.

I'm of a slightly different opinion. I got a couple sessions of PMMA and since then have had a bunch of HA done. I love the HA.

I also don't draw that big of a distinction between PMMA and Ellanse. They function in the same manner, similar potential complications have to be dealt with in a similar manner, and despite the initial rating for longevity, no one has reported loss yet and the theory is the spheres last a lot longer in the penis than the manufacturer states. So... In terms of most permanent to least permanent I'd list them like this:

PMMA
Ellanse


Scultpra
Radiesse


HA (and longevity varies between products)

In my opinion with your stated level of comfort regarding ease of correction I'd be looking at a quality HA or perhaps a blend that some docs offer like HA/Radiesse. Shop around and talk to a couple quality providers.

As for if it's worth it... Hell yeah. So worth it. Lol.

I'll preface with this. When I finally pulled the trigger back in 2019 to get dermal fillers, in the back of my head I knew my end goal would be something substantial so long as it was safe and functional.

I took a break from PMMA due to logistics, COVID and because I wanted to be a bit patient with watching options develop. All of a sudden, HA practitioners began popping up with pleasing results, rumours of practitioners using other fillers began swirling (such as Ellanse, Scultpra, Radiesse, etc) and I wanted to just wait and see.

In early 2023 I stumbled across two HA practitioners in the greater Toronto area. The consult at one just was not for me. The second seemed more cautious about my PMMA and his bedside manner seemed agreeable to me. I went a couple of times for HA. His approach was a bit rudimentary compared to my prior experience at Avanti. Topical numbing only, small amounts of HA (to be cautious, which I totally agreed with, this is not a knock), product placement always seemed to be in line with the trend some practitioners have of just placing it on top. It gives it a pronounced appearance flaccid but that's about it. Not ideal in my mind. I wasn't overly thrilled with the aesthetics and still wanted more but I was kind of told to wait. Of course nothing changed.

Fast forward several months and I randomly did a Google search, scrolled and found Leonardo Medicine. Never had seen the result before in a search. I checked out his site and did some digging, doctor seemed quite accredited. His results pictures were also excellent. So I finally reached out and he did a virtual consultation. Initially it was for his Hybrid Filler, which is a blend of HA for bulking and Radiesse to promote collagen growth more akin to the sphere based fillers like PMMA and Ellanse but not as permanent. He wanted to wait while he talked to other doctors who have come across PMMA patients and talked to Radiesse's manufacturer to get their input.

We decided to not try Radiesse at the time.

But he was willing to add size and do an aesthetic correction with HA. I was stoked. Lol.

Arrived at the clinic. It's in a building that was once residential it appeared but has been fully renovated. I'd compare his suite to a large two bedroom apartment. There is also a physiotherapy office, some type of medical testing clinic and I think a family practice and his independent office. Clean bright procedure room, secondary room and office, washroom, consultation and waiting area. I honestly love his practice. You feel private and comfortable. For anyone who has seen Avanti's office, similar clean and comfortable space. Parking is easy, highway access is easy.

Anyway. Topical numbing. Then an injected nerve block. Then for most patients an injection to induce an erection (Trimix I think it's called?). This never worked for me so we stopped using it and I had more luck just inducing one without for whatever reason. He prefers to inject erect or at the very least see it erect so he can have erect aesthetics in mind when filling. He uses some type of light that shows veins etc to make it even easier to work with the cannula or other syringes. Whole thing usually takes about an hour and a half from going in until leaving, give or take.

After my first fill, I was very happy with my aesthetics. At no point beyond that was it really to overly correct anything. Most guys would have been very happy at that point honestly.

So full disclosure, I have had quite a bit done. I am extremely happy with it. He can definitely do a very natural looking minor enhancement for those that want it, I've seen many of his results like that and talked to guys here in PM and on Reddit who ended up going and were very happy with half an inch or an inch.

Here's all of my appointments and volumes excluding this week. The attached pics are one comparison from when I first went to him and then prior to my most recent appointment (I was there for a hair treatment study a couple weeks ago and offered for him to take a pic).

August 7, 2023: 10 syringes of Revanesse Ultra (1.2mL for each syringe)
September 18, 2023: 8 syringes Revanesse Ultra
October 10, 2023: 8 syringes Ultra
October 30, 2023: 6 syringes Revanesse Contour
November 28, 2023: 4 syringes Contour
December 18, 2023: 5 syringes Contour
January 19, 2024: 6mL PRP

Not shown in pics below is what I am now, I went in yesterday for:

April 1, 2024: 8 syringes Contour + 6mL PRP

I will update and share more pics if the interest is there.

All summarized, I've been very happy. The addition of the PRP to the filler layer seems to have also helped keep things feeling very nice. I can't really say enough good things.

Yes, first and foremost, go with trusted providers. That isn't to say "Thicken" isn't a good brand, but there are Clinics up popping up left and right who already use fillers off-label, and upon learning that this (penis enlargement) is an option, offer it because they can. Truth be told, most of the worst work I see are by non-Sponsors.

I know that's easy for me to say, but the fact remains that the VAST majority of traffic never posts even once. Even among Registered Members (you don't need to register to read, only to post, or to purchase Premium Membership to view attachments), I believe on PhalloBoards 2.0 it was like 15% ever posted once or more, it's considerably less here. Most guys do their research, book, and go about their lives. I really wish more guys would pay it forward like the pioneers before them.

The reason I cite those statistics is to explain that there is a lot of back channel information I'm privy to. Emails and Private Messages come my way seeking advice that simply choose not to post publicly. They know with my work here that I treat anonymity like HIPAA (despite not being a Healthcare Practitioner), so I see a lot more than just what goes on publicly. Suffice it to say, most of the worst work (in terms of aesthetic appeal) come from "no-namers."

Also, the Sponsors here not only have been vetted, but have demonstrated a desire to be leading innovators in the field, and that's reassuring. Furthermore, putting their face on this forum takes guts because substantiated negative reviews are permitted (there is no censorship or shilling here). So if someone is willing to embrace Sponsorship of the PhalloBoards, it tells me they want to be a big player in the industry, and not some Family Practitioner-turned-Botox Spa side hustle (no offense to any who may fall under that category, I'm sure there are some who are indeed good at their craft). Sponsorship isn't terribly pricey by a Doctor's/Clinic's standards (I do not disclose financial-specifics other than acknowledging that they are Sponsors, which means exactly that) so if they don't have the guts or pocketbook (i.e. low volume whether because they are extremely new to the scene which implies inexperience or because they put out bad results) to promote themselves on the only site anywhere on the web dedicated to the topic of surgical & non-surgical elective medical male enhancement, why put your one & only penis in their hands? Stick with the "Big Guns" if you want a "Bazooka."

I cannot vouch for the Newport and Los Angeles PhalloFILL Providers (It's only the Headquarter Dallas Location that is an Official Sponsor here), but they have been trained by the PhalloFILL team so you certainly aren't dealing with slouches. On the other hand, Avanti Derma primarily employs Ellanse and Linnea Safe (PMMA) which if you are not comfortable with, I'm not going to try and impose on you other than to say that they have been demonstrably efficacious in the penis long-term (nearly 15 years-ish following its use).

Many start with HA, some like it and don't mind its annual maintenance (every 12-18 months or so, depending on your body's propensity to breakdown foreign bodies), usually requiring less and less volume, making costs manageable (and well worth the investment because its effects are life-changing). Others may prefer the Ellanse or PMMA route afterwards if they were either unsatisfied with HA or found the maintenance to be costly long-term. A lot is to be considered, weighing pros & cons, there is no perfect option, some like the safety profile & non-permanence of something in their penis, while others like to get it one & done and never have to worry about it again. As long as you aren't getting a rigid silicone implant or high volumes of silicone oil inside of you, and stick to the PhalloBoards friendly fillers, you'll be alright (i.e. HA, PMMA, Ellanse, Radiesse, Fat Transfer, and Renuva).

That said, just as I praised Ellanse & PMMA, I will equally praise HA and confirm your understanding that it has the best safety profile among all fillers, because it does. It's already naturally occurring in your body, it's only been cross-linked in a lab to behave more like a dermal filler, somewhat if not mostly reversible (depending on how much volume injected and how soon after you choose to do it), and will EVENTUALLY dissipate in the event you don't like it, meaning you won't need any invasive procedures to remove it surgically (that said, again being as impartial as I can be, it's exceedingly rare for people to get PMMA or Ellanse completely removed when having it originally injected by a legitimate practitioner).

Personally, if it was HA I truly desired, I'd hit up Dr. Tsay ( Additional Link ) in Orange County or fly to the PhalloFILL Office in Dallas ( Additional Link ). Again, not a knock on the Newport or Los Angeles locations, I just can't personally vouch for them, but if it were them vs. Thicken, my bets on the PhalloFILL locations. That said, if you are going to spend what you're spending, I'd take a look at some of the options I mentioned.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Endolift effect is around 2 years?