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Mconklin1964 and Skptical_One

For mild to mild moderate scrotal webbing, most of the issue is on the underside of the penis --5-7 oclock which we dont really emphasize too much of the filler anyways (due to proximity of the urethra). The only angles that are affected are the 90 degree angles and most of the time youre looking down on your guy, youre not really seeing it. In my experience, if the webbing is not severe, no intervention is needed prior to PE augmentation with dermal fillers. Hope this helps.

Dr. Tsay
Ageless MD

Hey guys, I am getting ready to get my PMMA done. Looking to go from about 4.75 girth to 6. I was wondering about whether you have told girls about it, and what their reactions are. For instance, if you got it before you found your current partner, did you tell her about it? For you single guys, do girls your with notice it or do you tell them?

Do you think girls think this is weird to have done, or is it going to get to a point where every guy is getting it so it will just be accepted as the norm.

Thanks fellas!

Skeptical_One wrote:

Apollore wrote: I haven’t been on this forum in a few months and will check now and again. Reading this made me regret not posting about my infection at AD back in late June of 2024 following my 3rd procedure at AD. I had sex at roughly the 5 week mark and the EXACT infection happened to me. It was scary, but thankfully, I was able to order antibiotics in less than 24 hours. The infection was painful and my anxiety was through the roof. I will say, I contacted AD immediately when this happened and Ian called me frequently to talk through it and also was helpful over email. I’d be more than happy to provide pictures as well if that would be helpful.

I think the safest thing for anyone would be to wait 6 weeks at least before sexual activity and allow the entry points to heal fully.

Skeptical_One wrote:

VT86 wrote: Going to be honest, I leave bright and early tomorrow morning for my procedure at AD. Two and a half hour drive..
This thread has me nervous now

Food for thought, consider how many topics like this exist versus how many topics with no-infections exists as it pertains to Avanti Derma? I'd venture to say that topics like this (involving unusual post-op infections) account for less than a percent (in fact, a fraction of a fraction of a percent) of all Progress Reports spanning back nearly 14 years, when member "Envisionmore" first posted about his experience with Dr. Casavantes (who is now been replaced by Dr. Morales as the primary Injector).

Also be mindful that all medical and dental procedures anywhere in the world, including the United States and Mexico will always pose a risk of infection (albeit small), especially if the procedure involves breaking skin. That said, these occurrences are low, with some initial searches suggesting the occurrence is 3-5%, and reports here (while not everyone posts, I'd argue the sample size is healthy enough) are seemingly lower than that!

And if it provides any additional comfort, I had my first procedure done in 2011 with subsequent appointments through 2015-ish with no complications to date. Stick to the post-op protocols and stay in touch with the Forums (and also, if you do intend on posting more, I politely ask we have it moved to a new topic like a Progress Report, it would be most appreciated).

Good luck!

I'm thankful you did chime in, even if after the fact. I implore others who have had both good and bad experiences to share.

I still stand by my belief that the sample size available (especially due to the luxury of anonymity + the propensity for people to be more inclined to leave negative reviews when & if possible), I believe for every untold "horror story" there are 50x (or more) as many "success stories" based on this site's growth, my Sponsor's feedback, and again, the nearly 15 years of volunteer patient reporting on the only site dedicated specifically to the topic of surgical & non-surgical medical male enhancement.

100% agree. My experience, other than the rare infection weeks later, has been nothing but positive. I am even considering a 4th round to help some of the unevenness. This site is a blessing to educate people and I never would’ve taken the first step if it weren’t for all the positive reviews and knowledgeable people here

Thanks for the advice. There was a hard white head on the entry point that felt like would become a nodule. So I squeezed that out then the fluid followed as I massaged. It does feel "empty" around there now, but hopefully it pans out.

Rbailey wrote: It's been a week since I've had pmma from Avanti. Today I was massaging and an entry point opened back up and pushed out blood that had a white tinge and behaved kind of sticky. Now I may be playing tricks on myself, but I feel an area that seems to be less filled out now. Is it possible that I pushed out pmma a week after the procedure?

Highly unlikely to the extent of "no." And if it were, the amount would be negligible at this stage (7+ days out) -- what you need to be focused on is not what is gained or lost in terms of product, but rather, your entry points healing and closing for good -- they should have been healed by now, you may want to ease on the massaging on this point, keeping the newly opened entry points sterile/clean/free of debris and let it course out as intended.

It's been a week since I've had pmma from Avanti. Today I was massaging and an entry point opened back up and pushed out blood that had a white tinge and behaved kind of sticky. Now I may be playing tricks on myself, but I feel an area that seems to be less filled out now. Is it possible that I pushed out pmma a week after the procedure?

Apollore wrote: I haven’t been on this forum in a few months and will check now and again. Reading this made me regret not posting about my infection at AD back in late June of 2024 following my 3rd procedure at AD. I had sex at roughly the 5 week mark and the EXACT infection happened to me. It was scary, but thankfully, I was able to order antibiotics in less than 24 hours. The infection was painful and my anxiety was through the roof. I will say, I contacted AD immediately when this happened and Ian called me frequently to talk through it and also was helpful over email. I’d be more than happy to provide pictures as well if that would be helpful.

I think the safest thing for anyone would be to wait 6 weeks at least before sexual activity and allow the entry points to heal fully.

Skeptical_One wrote:

VT86 wrote: Going to be honest, I leave bright and early tomorrow morning for my procedure at AD. Two and a half hour drive..
This thread has me nervous now

Food for thought, consider how many topics like this exist versus how many topics with no-infections exists as it pertains to Avanti Derma? I'd venture to say that topics like this (involving unusual post-op infections) account for less than a percent (in fact, a fraction of a fraction of a percent) of all Progress Reports spanning back nearly 14 years, when member "Envisionmore" first posted about his experience with Dr. Casavantes (who is now been replaced by Dr. Morales as the primary Injector).

Also be mindful that all medical and dental procedures anywhere in the world, including the United States and Mexico will always pose a risk of infection (albeit small), especially if the procedure involves breaking skin. That said, these occurrences are low, with some initial searches suggesting the occurrence is 3-5%, and reports here (while not everyone posts, I'd argue the sample size is healthy enough) are seemingly lower than that!

And if it provides any additional comfort, I had my first procedure done in 2011 with subsequent appointments through 2015-ish with no complications to date. Stick to the post-op protocols and stay in touch with the Forums (and also, if you do intend on posting more, I politely ask we have it moved to a new topic like a Progress Report, it would be most appreciated).

Good luck!

I'm thankful you did chime in, even if after the fact. I implore others who have had both good and bad experiences to share.

I still stand by my belief that the sample size available (especially due to the luxury of anonymity + the propensity for people to be more inclined to leave negative reviews when & if possible), I believe for every untold "horror story" there are 50x (or more) as many "success stories" based on this site's growth, my Sponsor's feedback, and again, the nearly 15 years of volunteer patient reporting on the only site dedicated specifically to the topic of surgical & non-surgical medical male enhancement.

I haven’t been on this forum in a few months and will check now and again. Reading this made me regret not posting about my infection at AD back in late June of 2024 following my 3rd procedure at AD. I had sex at roughly the 5 week mark and the EXACT infection happened to me. It was scary, but thankfully, I was able to order antibiotics in less than 24 hours. The infection was painful and my anxiety was through the roof. I will say, I contacted AD immediately when this happened and Ian called me frequently to talk through it and also was helpful over email. I’d be more than happy to provide pictures as well if that would be helpful.

I think the safest thing for anyone would be to wait 6 weeks at least before sexual activity and allow the entry points to heal fully.

Skeptical_One wrote:

VT86 wrote: Going to be honest, I leave bright and early tomorrow morning for my procedure at AD. Two and a half hour drive..
This thread has me nervous now

Food for thought, consider how many topics like this exist versus how many topics with no-infections exists as it pertains to Avanti Derma? I'd venture to say that topics like this (involving unusual post-op infections) account for less than a percent (in fact, a fraction of a fraction of a percent) of all Progress Reports spanning back nearly 14 years, when member "Envisionmore" first posted about his experience with Dr. Casavantes (who is now been replaced by Dr. Morales as the primary Injector).

Also be mindful that all medical and dental procedures anywhere in the world, including the United States and Mexico will always pose a risk of infection (albeit small), especially if the procedure involves breaking skin. That said, these occurrences are low, with some initial searches suggesting the occurrence is 3-5%, and reports here (while not everyone posts, I'd argue the sample size is healthy enough) are seemingly lower than that!

And if it provides any additional comfort, I had my first procedure done in 2011 with subsequent appointments through 2015-ish with no complications to date. Stick to the post-op protocols and stay in touch with the Forums (and also, if you do intend on posting more, I politely ask we have it moved to a new topic like a Progress Report, it would be most appreciated).

Good luck!

Skeptical_One wrote:

Fatoes1 wrote: Well I’m currently 3 weeks post-op the injections. And the thing is that if it was just a prickly sensation i wouldn’t worry that much. But when i squeenze the edge of the filler within a couple seconds my dick will burn like hell, and it will continue burning for 10-20 seconds. While not squeezing i don’t feel anything.
I can also mastrubate without any pain, it’s really the squeezing of the filler wich activates the burning.

Before i have had Voluma and Volux but never had any problems. After 20ml of that, i had it dissolved to start with Ellanse and now have had 2 sessions of Ellanse, 1 of 6ml and 1 of 5ml.

Have another session planned for next week but i dont know if i should proceed with these complaints..

If you can masturbate without pain but can trigger this uncomfortable sensation by selectively pinching the very edge of it (presumably with some force), then it is likely residual inflammation 3 weeks out. I suppose if you did any procedure (elective or otherwise) and poked & prodded the procedure site specifically, you'd get similar reactions freshly post-op. Is it really a complaint if you are aggravating a procedure site that is known to take weeks to undergo girth growth (which includes the creation of collagen, elastin, and vascularization, among other processes)?

With Linnea Safe brand PMMA for example (similar to Ellanse in terms of how collagen is built), Clinics like Avanti Derma (high volume injector of PMMA and Ellanse) require a minimum of 6 weeks before considering a 2nd round of injections. Although I don't know if this still the rule, I'm citing this example to explain that this tells me that the processes triggered by the presence of the microspheres can continue well into the 3 week stage -- which may very well explain why agitating the dermal implant creates what I suspect is an inflammatory response.

In other words, STOP PINCHING IT! Continued pestering and pinching of this area may only exacerbate it and lengthen the time for it to heal & resolve on its own. The fact that there is NO more swelling, bruising, redness, or unprovoked pain, let alone any signs of infection, tells me you are coming along normally -- heck, even user VoltzZz confirmed that such an experience is possible; some of us heal, recover, and deal with neocollagenesis & inflammation in different ways with varying degrees.

As for your follow-up appointment, I think 4 weeks might be too soon, but then again, this isn't Ellanse and not PMMA (similar but not identical), and since you only had 6mL's of product, the Doctor may believe you are in the green for further injections at this time (my 6 weeks rule was based on a standard set by one Clinic years ago for PMMA, so it is possible this is no longer the norm and/or the time window is a bit more discretionary based on each patient's unique circumstances, and how policies in regards to these injections varies per filler-type and Clinic as well).

If they are a PhalloBoards Sponsor, I trust you'll be fine, especially since they can gauge the efficaciousness of performing that day or postponing based on what they see once "breaking skin." If they are not, I would perhaps consider postponing through the 6th, if not the 8th week marker (without ANY pinching in the interim), and then doing a mild pinch test on the 6th (or 8th week marker, whichever you choose) and ONLY THEN. Depending on the levels of pain (if any), decide whether or not to move forward with additional work, or wait it out and/or attempt resolving it before any further considerations.

As you can see with Member VoltzZz, his anomalous inflammation (an anomaly in terms of "burning" versus "prickliness", since the former is far less reported than the latter by a significant margin; as a matter of fact this may be the 2nd time I've heard of long-term intense burning due to the aggressive manipulation of a dermal filler from memory -- yours + VoltzZz... any other times must have been so infrequently reported that I can't call it to memory), it eventually resolves on its own but can take a while. It's impossible to say with your situation but then again, why will you need to pinch your penis periodically anyways? Not dismissing it outright, there can always be underlying issues at play that are not apparent, which is why I will double-down on my recommendation: If it is a PhalloBoards Sponsor, I can trust that if you provide them this information, they can make the necessary call on whether or not a procedure that day is appropriate, and if they are a non-Sponsor, to consider postponement (not saying you should postpone 100%, but simply to consider it more thoroughly).

Good luck.

I see you're perplexed as to why someone would be pinching their penis lol. I'm sure you've had that random out of no where itch on your shaft that's almost impossible to alleviate with a scratch so sometimes you have to pinch through your pants....If you recall I ended up with an infection after my 2nd round. The burn could be residual inflammation as you stated to Fatoes1. This is something I addressed with Dr C and I was told it would slowly go away so I wasn't concerned. Never the less it did and I'm perfectly fine.

Fatoes1 wrote: Well I’m currently 3 weeks post-op the injections. And the thing is that if it was just a prickly sensation i wouldn’t worry that much. But when i squeenze the edge of the filler within a couple seconds my dick will burn like hell, and it will continue burning for 10-20 seconds. While not squeezing i don’t feel anything.
I can also mastrubate without any pain, it’s really the squeezing of the filler wich activates the burning.

Before i have had Voluma and Volux but never had any problems. After 20ml of that, i had it dissolved to start with Ellanse and now have had 2 sessions of Ellanse, 1 of 6ml and 1 of 5ml.

Have another session planned for next week but i dont know if i should proceed with these complaints..

If you can masturbate without pain but can trigger this uncomfortable sensation by selectively pinching the very edge of it (presumably with some force), then it is likely residual inflammation 3 weeks out. I suppose if you did any procedure (elective or otherwise) and poked & prodded the procedure site specifically, you'd get similar reactions freshly post-op. Is it really a complaint if you are aggravating a procedure site that is known to take weeks to undergo girth growth (which includes the creation of collagen, elastin, and vascularization, among other processes)?

With Linnea Safe brand PMMA for example (similar to Ellanse in terms of how collagen is built), Clinics like Avanti Derma (high volume injector of PMMA and Ellanse) require a minimum of 6 weeks before considering a 2nd round of injections. Although I don't know if this still the rule, I'm citing this example to explain that this tells me that the processes triggered by the presence of the microspheres can continue well into the 3 week stage -- which may very well explain why agitating the dermal implant creates what I suspect is an inflammatory response.

In other words, STOP PINCHING IT! Continued pestering and pinching of this area may only exacerbate it and lengthen the time for it to heal & resolve on its own. The fact that there is NO more swelling, bruising, redness, or unprovoked pain, let alone any signs of infection, tells me you are coming along normally -- heck, even user VoltzZz confirmed that such an experience is possible; some of us heal, recover, and deal with neocollagenesis & inflammation in different ways with varying degrees.

As for your follow-up appointment, I think 4 weeks might be too soon, but then again, this isn't Ellanse and not PMMA (similar but not identical), and since you only had 6mL's of product, the Doctor may believe you are in the green for further injections at this time (my 6 weeks rule was based on a standard set by one Clinic years ago for PMMA, so it is possible this is no longer the norm and/or the time window is a bit more discretionary based on each patient's unique circumstances, and how policies in regards to these injections varies per filler-type and Clinic as well).

If they are a PhalloBoards Sponsor, I trust you'll be fine, especially since they can gauge the efficaciousness of performing that day or postponing based on what they see once "breaking skin." If they are not, I would perhaps consider postponing through the 6th, if not the 8th week marker (without ANY pinching in the interim), and then doing a mild pinch test on the 6th (or 8th week marker, whichever you choose) and ONLY THEN. Depending on the levels of pain (if any), decide whether or not to move forward with additional work, or wait it out and/or attempt resolving it before any further considerations.

As you can see with Member VoltzZz, his anomalous inflammation (an anomaly in terms of "burning" versus "prickliness", since the former is far less reported than the latter by a significant margin; as a matter of fact this may be the 2nd time I've heard of long-term intense burning due to the aggressive manipulation of a dermal filler from memory -- yours + VoltzZz... any other times must have been so infrequently reported that I can't call it to memory), it eventually resolves on its own but can take a while. It's impossible to say with your situation but then again, why will you need to pinch your penis periodically anyways? Not dismissing it outright, there can always be underlying issues at play that are not apparent, which is why I will double-down on my recommendation: If it is a PhalloBoards Sponsor, I can trust that if you provide them this information, they can make the necessary call on whether or not a procedure that day is appropriate, and if they are a non-Sponsor, to consider postponement (not saying you should postpone 100%, but simply to consider it more thoroughly).

Good luck.

My first 2 treatments I didn’t wrap at all, I used a weighted noose hanger. It was fine but not great for comfort or practicality. I would use that for 3-4 weeks, goal was to let the filler settle in my most elongated state, who knows if that worked or was a waste of time. Treatments 3-5 I used a self adhesive gauze wrap, it kept me elongated just fine and is easy to use. Did that for 4-6 weeks, not necessarily that I needed it that long, but it was easy to do and wasn’t hurting anything. Never had an issue concealing it in clothing, but I also didn’t need to wear anything tight fitting during that time. I only wrap one layer around.

@skaface
2 quick questions:

1/ How was the timing on your first or second treatment? I don’t think it’s going to take the full five weeks but I want long term success and feel comfortable (I think) with keeping it wrapped longer.

2/ My biggest drawback is the guaze / athletic wrap and the way it appears in my pants. That’s been a new thing to adjust for. I’m still getting used to the added girth plus the wrap. How did you manage that?

@Skeptical_One
Happy to share. I think it’s a helpful to everyone.

Timing is going to be key and how I feel makes sense. I’m already seeing good progress going into day two. I’ll keep the thread updated as time progresses.

I had the same experience with my 2nd round of PMMA. If I pinched or scratched the sides of my shaft I would experience an intense burning sensation that lasted 20 to 30 seconds. It took approx 6 months for that to stop happening. It never happened with intercourse etc.

atxguy wrote: I'm leery of PMMA after my experience. You can check out my progress updates. I had very few nodules with CMC(i know...I know)....BUT the 3rd procedure was a PMMA mix and I had about 30 nodules and had to have it removed. Disaster all the way around. Huge regrets on PMMA and the surgery.

You had work performed by someone who can't provide you definitive proof, studies, or FDA approval of what was injected inside of you, regardless of whatever he might have indicated. To conflate this with the common PMMA injections discussed here on the forums is both irresponsible and shortsighted when you consider this to be a platform for information gathering & fact checking.

We are happy to help but please be mindful of how you describe your situation as it has nothing to do with ethical, regulatory-body approved dermal fillers.

I ask you desist from calling your filler PMMA, heck don't even call it silicone because we really don't know. Call it Loria's Proprietary bullsh*t, or an unregulated proprietary filler, respectfully.

Demonstrably successful iterations of PMMA like Linnea Safe and Bellafill need not be confused with your situation, and I understand your frustrations so I'm writing this as a courtesy reminder to be mindful of context and details -- I don't wish to suspend any account who genuinely needs help from this Forum, but I can't tolerate misinformation, even if unintentional. I know you mean well, but what you endured is far from the norm in terms of user experiences here.

I hope you have my understanding.