TOPIC: HELP! Infection at week 4 post PMMA

I all can tell you a funny fact: I was to different times at avanti. On my first letter was written 1 week.
On my last letter was written 2 weeks.
One time I was sitting in the room to wait.. I wanted to read a bit Dr Casa Book „Girth Matters“ - on a certain page here is written: Best is to wait 4 Weeks !

@Ben3 Ian was telling you 6 weeks in person ?

@Ben3 yes, I hope your Pmma - product was fine..
AD is an amazing office and the service is like Love & more. Its a fact.
But I think sadly after now so many more options in Amercia.. their revenue goes back.. Understandable.
I hope they do not use a cheaper product because of that …
My opinion: They should open a second office in America.. cause most clients would wish go to the Founder of Pmma Dr C. (founder regards using it in penis) - but they do not want to leave the country.. and now there are so many options in America..

PmmaFan wrote: I all can tell you a funny fact: I was to different times at avanti. On my first letter was written 1 week.
On my last letter was written 2 weeks.
One time I was sitting in the room to wait.. I wanted to read a bit Dr Casa Book „Girth Matters“ - on a certain page here is written: Best is to wait 4 Weeks !

@Ben3 Ian was telling you 6 weeks in person ?

Pre-op & post-op protocols are subject to change, based on the evolution of the methodology through feedback and fine-tuning. This would seem like a natural progression all things considered.

PmmaFan wrote: @Ben3 yes, I hope your Pmma - product was fine..
AD is an amazing office and the service is like Love & more. Its a fact.
But I think sadly after now so many more options in Amercia.. their revenue goes back.. Understandable.
I hope they do not use a cheaper product because of that …
My opinion: They should open a second office in America.. cause most clients would wish go to the Founder of Pmma Dr C. (founder regards using it in penis) - but they do not want to leave the country.. and now there are so many options in America..

I really don't want to have to go here but I think it's incredibly unfair, if not absurd, to suggest that Avanti Derma would ever resort to using cheaper product when their very goal should be trying to acquire as many new & repeat clientele as possible, especially in light of how much more crowded & saturated the penis enlargement scene has become. Cutting costs in this field has historically been associated with cutting quality, the one attribute that Avanti Derma has remained consistent on for well over a decade -- it would only be in their best interest to provide the highest quality product available to them while remaining transparent.

We've had a lot of bad actors and poor methods chronicled since 2010, if any Clinic deserves the benefit of the doubt, Avanti Derma would certainly be on the short-list.

Many were not here when Avanti Derma was so heavily scrutinized that it became a mandated policy (although I'm not sure if it's still in practice today) to show the sealed boxes of syringes with the serial # intact. The same level of scrutiny was never placed on Avanti's American peers during that same time, and quite honestly felt a bit rooted in a broader misguided sentiment that foreign medicine was less trustworthy (when in fact, especially as it pertains to aesthetic medicine, Medical Tourism abroad was & is a hugely successful industry).

So I ask politely, short of any concrete evidence or irrefutable proof, that we not dive into the proverbial deep end of the speculation pool, and instead rely on the innumerous progress reports that have exemplified Avanti Derma's professionalism & ethics.

As for the "2nd Office Location" idea -- well the issue there is that both preferred fillers by Avanti Derma are not available in the U.S. Ellanse has yet to be FDA approved, and they stock Linnea Safe PMMA, not Bellafill PMMA. They have a niche that cannot be entertained in the U.S., never mind their flying colors with respect to efficacy operating out of Mexico. This also doesn't take into account that the operating Physician (Dr. Morales) is only licensed to perform medicine in Mexico, with a US licensure being impractical (if not impossible).

I know it was not your intention to point fingers or slide out innuendos (especially given your username and past history lol), but we have to sometimes be mindful of how constructive our advice is, and instead focus on the progress of Ben3 and his specific circumstances in hopes of providing him the kind of insight that will lead him to becoming a more informed decision maker (with respect to his treatment & recovery) through this ordeal.

@Skeptical_One

Sure - I also said AD is amazing.
a) Other product = irrational worry. We only know that there was now some cases of infections. Since there was not „a lot“ - there is still the speculation that own aftercare rituals.. were maybe also an issue in the cases of that users.
b) More American offices of Pmma Now: Well this a fact. On the other side men enhancements became much more popular.. so a bigger community. It was only my own opinion … that maybe a second AD office in america would be nice / added value

As a last point we all want to keep the level of this platform as a discussion board. So multiple opinions should be accepted as long there a in a certain range.

Again: To my comment „maybe other product“ - it was more a hope / worry that they do not use smth different now.

Yes, I was told verbally 6 weeks, and the formal piece of paper they gave me(with the lot number stickers) said 6 weeks.

Not sure how they evolved to 6 weeks, but I'm sure they had a good reason.

Going to be honest, I leave bright and early tomorrow morning for my procedure at AD. Two and a half hour drive..
This thread has me nervous now

VT86,

Checking in for you, I recovered just fine if that gives you piece of mind. I did gain about 0.75" in Girth.

Don't shower in the Tijuana hotel, just go without showering and wait until you get back home.

Wait the 6 weeks before having sex. I would even recommend maturating as little as possible and cleaning with soap, water, alcohol, etc after.

Either have extra antibiotics ready on deck or get them immediately if you see complications.

At the end of the day, it's your choice to weigh the risk/reward.

Good luck sir.

VT86 wrote: Going to be honest, I leave bright and early tomorrow morning for my procedure at AD. Two and a half hour drive..
This thread has me nervous now

Food for thought, consider how many topics like this exist versus how many topics with no-infections exists as it pertains to Avanti Derma? I'd venture to say that topics like this (involving unusual post-op infections) account for less than a percent (in fact, a fraction of a fraction of a percent) of all Progress Reports spanning back nearly 14 years, when member "Envisionmore" first posted about his experience with Dr. Casavantes (who is now been replaced by Dr. Morales as the primary Injector).

Also be mindful that all medical and dental procedures anywhere in the world, including the United States and Mexico will always pose a risk of infection (albeit small), especially if the procedure involves breaking skin. That said, these occurrences are low, with some initial searches suggesting the occurrence is 3-5%, and reports here (while not everyone posts, I'd argue the sample size is healthy enough) are seemingly lower than that!

And if it provides any additional comfort, I had my first procedure done in 2011 with subsequent appointments through 2015-ish with no complications to date. Stick to the post-op protocols and stay in touch with the Forums (and also, if you do intend on posting more, I politely ask we have it moved to a new topic like a Progress Report, it would be most appreciated).

Good luck!

It doesn't matter when other people say they are able to have sex. If you have sex before the entry points are healed, you run this risk.

I haven’t been on this forum in a few months and will check now and again. Reading this made me regret not posting about my infection at AD back in late June of 2024 following my 3rd procedure at AD. I had sex at roughly the 5 week mark and the EXACT infection happened to me. It was scary, but thankfully, I was able to order antibiotics in less than 24 hours. The infection was painful and my anxiety was through the roof. I will say, I contacted AD immediately when this happened and Ian called me frequently to talk through it and also was helpful over email. I’d be more than happy to provide pictures as well if that would be helpful.

I think the safest thing for anyone would be to wait 6 weeks at least before sexual activity and allow the entry points to heal fully.

Skeptical_One wrote:

VT86 wrote: Going to be honest, I leave bright and early tomorrow morning for my procedure at AD. Two and a half hour drive..
This thread has me nervous now

Food for thought, consider how many topics like this exist versus how many topics with no-infections exists as it pertains to Avanti Derma? I'd venture to say that topics like this (involving unusual post-op infections) account for less than a percent (in fact, a fraction of a fraction of a percent) of all Progress Reports spanning back nearly 14 years, when member "Envisionmore" first posted about his experience with Dr. Casavantes (who is now been replaced by Dr. Morales as the primary Injector).

Also be mindful that all medical and dental procedures anywhere in the world, including the United States and Mexico will always pose a risk of infection (albeit small), especially if the procedure involves breaking skin. That said, these occurrences are low, with some initial searches suggesting the occurrence is 3-5%, and reports here (while not everyone posts, I'd argue the sample size is healthy enough) are seemingly lower than that!

And if it provides any additional comfort, I had my first procedure done in 2011 with subsequent appointments through 2015-ish with no complications to date. Stick to the post-op protocols and stay in touch with the Forums (and also, if you do intend on posting more, I politely ask we have it moved to a new topic like a Progress Report, it would be most appreciated).

Good luck!

Apollore wrote: I haven’t been on this forum in a few months and will check now and again. Reading this made me regret not posting about my infection at AD back in late June of 2024 following my 3rd procedure at AD. I had sex at roughly the 5 week mark and the EXACT infection happened to me. It was scary, but thankfully, I was able to order antibiotics in less than 24 hours. The infection was painful and my anxiety was through the roof. I will say, I contacted AD immediately when this happened and Ian called me frequently to talk through it and also was helpful over email. I’d be more than happy to provide pictures as well if that would be helpful.

I think the safest thing for anyone would be to wait 6 weeks at least before sexual activity and allow the entry points to heal fully.

Skeptical_One wrote:

VT86 wrote: Going to be honest, I leave bright and early tomorrow morning for my procedure at AD. Two and a half hour drive..
This thread has me nervous now

Food for thought, consider how many topics like this exist versus how many topics with no-infections exists as it pertains to Avanti Derma? I'd venture to say that topics like this (involving unusual post-op infections) account for less than a percent (in fact, a fraction of a fraction of a percent) of all Progress Reports spanning back nearly 14 years, when member "Envisionmore" first posted about his experience with Dr. Casavantes (who is now been replaced by Dr. Morales as the primary Injector).

Also be mindful that all medical and dental procedures anywhere in the world, including the United States and Mexico will always pose a risk of infection (albeit small), especially if the procedure involves breaking skin. That said, these occurrences are low, with some initial searches suggesting the occurrence is 3-5%, and reports here (while not everyone posts, I'd argue the sample size is healthy enough) are seemingly lower than that!

And if it provides any additional comfort, I had my first procedure done in 2011 with subsequent appointments through 2015-ish with no complications to date. Stick to the post-op protocols and stay in touch with the Forums (and also, if you do intend on posting more, I politely ask we have it moved to a new topic like a Progress Report, it would be most appreciated).

Good luck!

I'm thankful you did chime in, even if after the fact. I implore others who have had both good and bad experiences to share.

I still stand by my belief that the sample size available (especially due to the luxury of anonymity + the propensity for people to be more inclined to leave negative reviews when & if possible), I believe for every untold "horror story" there are 50x (or more) as many "success stories" based on this site's growth, my Sponsor's feedback, and again, the nearly 15 years of volunteer patient reporting on the only site dedicated specifically to the topic of surgical & non-surgical medical male enhancement.

Skeptical_One wrote:

Apollore wrote: I haven’t been on this forum in a few months and will check now and again. Reading this made me regret not posting about my infection at AD back in late June of 2024 following my 3rd procedure at AD. I had sex at roughly the 5 week mark and the EXACT infection happened to me. It was scary, but thankfully, I was able to order antibiotics in less than 24 hours. The infection was painful and my anxiety was through the roof. I will say, I contacted AD immediately when this happened and Ian called me frequently to talk through it and also was helpful over email. I’d be more than happy to provide pictures as well if that would be helpful.

I think the safest thing for anyone would be to wait 6 weeks at least before sexual activity and allow the entry points to heal fully.

Skeptical_One wrote:

VT86 wrote: Going to be honest, I leave bright and early tomorrow morning for my procedure at AD. Two and a half hour drive..
This thread has me nervous now

Food for thought, consider how many topics like this exist versus how many topics with no-infections exists as it pertains to Avanti Derma? I'd venture to say that topics like this (involving unusual post-op infections) account for less than a percent (in fact, a fraction of a fraction of a percent) of all Progress Reports spanning back nearly 14 years, when member "Envisionmore" first posted about his experience with Dr. Casavantes (who is now been replaced by Dr. Morales as the primary Injector).

Also be mindful that all medical and dental procedures anywhere in the world, including the United States and Mexico will always pose a risk of infection (albeit small), especially if the procedure involves breaking skin. That said, these occurrences are low, with some initial searches suggesting the occurrence is 3-5%, and reports here (while not everyone posts, I'd argue the sample size is healthy enough) are seemingly lower than that!

And if it provides any additional comfort, I had my first procedure done in 2011 with subsequent appointments through 2015-ish with no complications to date. Stick to the post-op protocols and stay in touch with the Forums (and also, if you do intend on posting more, I politely ask we have it moved to a new topic like a Progress Report, it would be most appreciated).

Good luck!

I'm thankful you did chime in, even if after the fact. I implore others who have had both good and bad experiences to share.

I still stand by my belief that the sample size available (especially due to the luxury of anonymity + the propensity for people to be more inclined to leave negative reviews when & if possible), I believe for every untold "horror story" there are 50x (or more) as many "success stories" based on this site's growth, my Sponsor's feedback, and again, the nearly 15 years of volunteer patient reporting on the only site dedicated specifically to the topic of surgical & non-surgical medical male enhancement.

100% agree. My experience, other than the rare infection weeks later, has been nothing but positive. I am even considering a 4th round to help some of the unevenness. This site is a blessing to educate people and I never would’ve taken the first step if it weren’t for all the positive reviews and knowledgeable people here