TOPIC: The thud got louder in Tijuana with Avanti

Table format for easier reading, and a new side by side. From the pubic bone to an ~1.5" past the base is where the biggest collapse occurred. On the left, that sharp jut-out is where the entry point Nodule is. I'm going to try a 50/50 mix of dmso gel and hydrocortisone at day 42 to see if I can flatten the two noticeable entry point nodules slightly - for me personally if I had to live with them forever, not the end of the world. If you can't convince a woman this isn't an STD, I question your game!
But I think a second round where I fill in the collapse at the base, and then keep that same angle of attack tapering towards the circ scar - honestly my "shelf" isn't that severe at least to the touch. Really NONE of this is bad to the touch except maybe the nodules.

I can say for my first 3 weeks i had concerns about how the end result would feel, it really did feel like pigs ear you get in traditional carnitas, sitting under the skin. Doesn't feel foreign at all now, GREAT tactile result with this PMMA. And I'm sure it'll just keep getting more and more natural feeling until it's completely done.

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	Before	1 week	2 weeks	3 weeks	4 weeks
BPEL	7-7.5"	6.75"	6.75"	6.875"	7.25"
BSEG	5.625"	7"	7.125"	6.875"	6.625"
BSEG +1"	N/A	N/A	7.0"	6.9375"	6.625"
MSEG	5.5"	6.625"	6.875"	6.75"	6.5"
CSEG	5.0"	6.25"	6.625"	6.5"	6.25"

so I'm actually up on week 5, but i dont think this is collagen growth. I think it's purely EQ.
Saturday I took a mega dose of PT-141 and 20mg of Cialis for some fun with girlfriend.
When I measured for week 4 I had what i thought was a pretty damn hard boner, but I guess it could get harder.
...of course she got sick so I was there with the hardest boner on earth and didn't up getting laid, so that was fun.

Either way, yall tell me, I've already been inadequately precise in that some measurements were normal boner, some were chemically-assisted.
I'll upload some photos of the measurements after I post this.
You will also sort of see in the length shot why I say that my damn bear paws for hands make my Dick look small, and why 7x7+ just looks normal on me. Thus giving me the weird dysmorphia we all have that drives us to voluntarily get needles in our dicks.

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	Before	1 week	2 weeks	3 weeks	4 weeks	5 weeks
BPEL	7-7.5"	6.75"	6.75"	6.875"	7.25"	7.25"
BSEG	5.625"	7"	7.125"	6.875"	6.625"	6.75"
BSEG +1"	N/A	N/A	7.0"	6.9375"	6.625"	6.75
MSEG	5.5"	6.625"	6.875"	6.75"	6.5"	6.625
CSEG	5.0"	6.25"	6.625"	6.5"	6.25"	6.375

You could serve a whole damn dinner on that thing. Shit man. Looking great.

Do you like the feel better than HA?

HA did feel pretty natural, and yet so does this, if I were to draw a comparison...this filler just seems angry. Like my Dick is an angry muscle ready to go sparring.

My Dick just feels more dense. If I squeeze my Flaccid it almost feels like a semi. I think it probably makes your Dick feel a little bit harder than a natural Erection, but in saying that, it still feels natural. Like it feels like something the human body could make, it just doesn't feel like the thing it made when you were born. There is less give to it than your natural Erection would have or even your natural Flaccid in that state.

HA just felt like a bigger Dick. This feels like a Dick went on a Tren and deca cycle.

There are definitely some lumps if you squeeze, almost like if you don't mix your pancake batter well, but you don't notice them at all when you are Erect. The entry point nodules you do notice when you are Erect, but I'm not sure a woman would. I'll try one of the home remedies. I found elsewhere on the forums to address that, if that doesn't work, I still think I will probably go back in for another full round when time permits. Another 1/2-In give or take with the gaps filled in and I'm good. I think if I were to pick an ideal it would be that second Erect picture that I posted in the collage. I loved the aesthetics of that and I loved the size of it.

So I think I'm going to call the 5 week numbers my final numbers.
My "natural" 100% Erection, without a ton of boner medicine, I'm maxing at 6.625 => 6.25 from BSEG to CSEG. This was my end of week 5 until I slammed a huge quantity of PT141 and 20mg tadalafil. At which point I was 6.75 => 6.375 from BSEG to CSEG. I haven't done that this week.
My every day ~80-85% Erection that I'd get up for sex, my "daily driver" boner, I'm dipping low as 6.5 => 6.0 from BSEG to CSEG

So there's a full >=1/4" variation depending on EQ.
The penile tissue itself is capable of 6.75 => 6.375
My brain and cardiovascular system are capable of getting it to 6.625 => 6.25 at best on their own
On an average day it could be as "low" as 6.5 => 6.0

I'll call these my final stats, and this will be my last measurement on 1 week intervals. If I notice something that gives me a reason to think this has changed, I'll re-measure.
Next time I slam a ton of pt141 and boner pills I'll probably re-measure.

Hell maybe I get 10 weeks out and do a "FINAL" column in the table.

If I didn't have to fly 2000 miles away and take off work I'd go for another round tomorrow. Just hard to get time slotted so who knows when round 2 will happen.

"jesus, baby, have you been doing pushups with your Dick"

She didnt see it, she felt it tonight at full hardness, 100% EQ, for the first time since the procedure. There've been some really depressing issues that've taken sex off the table for us since the injections, I think we've gone at it twice before this with me barely hard enough for penetration, so it wouldn't have felt all that different from beforee

...until tonight, we're both still in the dumps over family health shit but I slammed some PT141 for a special occasion and....she's basically "that's a little too much, but im a happy customer".
Long as I'm with her i think another bulking round is off the table. And frankly I'm already massive, so much other shit I'd rather spend my money on (thermal scopes aint cheap!)
MAYBE an aesthetic round but that's not even a high priority. I just thought I'd share the lolz. Apparently going to 6 5/8" is noticeable.

Great results

You mentioned early in the process that it was a little squishy (not as hard as pre-procedure). Has that now changed? Wife likes firm, concerned the filler won't be. Thank you!

itgoesthud wrote: "jesus, baby, have you been doing pushups with your Dick"

She didnt see it, she felt it tonight at full hardness, 100% EQ, for the first time since the procedure. There've been some really depressing issues that've taken sex off the table for us since the injections, I think we've gone at it twice before this with me barely hard enough for penetration, so it wouldn't have felt all that different from beforee

...until tonight, we're both still in the dumps over family health shit but I slammed some PT141 for a special occasion and....she's basically "that's a little too much, but im a happy customer".
Long as I'm with her i think another bulking round is off the table. And frankly I'm already massive, so much other shit I'd rather spend my money on (thermal scopes aint cheap!)
MAYBE an aesthetic round but that's not even a high priority. I just thought I'd share the lolz. Apparently going to 6 5/8" is noticeable.

This is definitely one of the best/if not the best update/journey post on this forum. Thanks for the updates/details - you had mentioned, there was somethings you messed up in the aftercare that you wouldn't do next time? What were those or what did you think you messed up on ? the results look terrific

Woodworking714 wrote: This is definitely one of the best/if not the best update/journey post on this forum. Thanks for the updates/details - you had mentioned, there was somethings you messed up in the aftercare that you wouldn't do next time? What were those or what did you think you messed up on ? the results look terrific

First off the massage technique. I didn't really take the time to figure out how to determine filler from edema.
It wasn't until my very last visit before the flight out that I actually SHOWED Ian how I was massaging, and he corrected me. If I'd been doing it closer to a right way, and getting MINOR corrections to the massage pattern, instead of doing something fundamentally wrong, the crucial 72h post would have gone better.
I probably would have worked on the entry points a bit better as well.
I wore jeans around Tijuana, I didn't spend enough time stretched, I didn't find a leg strap to keep me extended while I walked around, etc.
I should have done a better job finding a stretcher that could properly grab onto my minimally-defined glans
And really, I should have gotten my ass in better cardiovascular shape because I'm reasonably convinced that's responsible for the bulk of my retraction.

itgoesthud wrote:

Woodworking714 wrote: This is definitely one of the best/if not the best update/journey post on this forum. Thanks for the updates/details - you had mentioned, there was somethings you messed up in the aftercare that you wouldn't do next time? What were those or what did you think you messed up on ? the results look terrific

First off the massage technique. I didn't really take the time to figure out how to determine filler from edema.
It wasn't until my very last visit before the flight out that I actually SHOWED Ian how I was massaging, and he corrected me. If I'd been doing it closer to a right way, and getting MINOR corrections to the massage pattern, instead of doing something fundamentally wrong, the crucial 72h post would have gone better.
I probably would have worked on the entry points a bit better as well.
I wore jeans around Tijuana, I didn't spend enough time stretched, I didn't find a leg strap to keep me extended while I walked around, etc.
I should have done a better job finding a stretcher that could properly grab onto my minimally-defined glans
And really, I should have gotten my ass in better cardiovascular shape because I'm reasonably convinced that's responsible for the bulk of my retraction.

Do you know of any video with the proper massage technique? Someone has to have posted the proper technique to massage somewhere :/

Hows the overall firmness? Has it gotten better? I'm in the same boat where its been around 80% of the pre-op firmness and not sure if that's going to improve

Hold it firmly in your palm, with the other hand press your thumb or forefinger firmly (harder than you think) and roll your finger back and forth. It is a rolling/rocking motion vs circular motion.

One thing thud taught me that I did later when I got home was to lay it on the bathroom counter and roll it with a deodorant can or something else round like a smaller rolling pin. Flip your Dick around so you get all sides/angles.

What a great result. It seems like Avanti is the most cost effective option.

Although I'm in NY so Ohio is closer. If I factor in plane tickets and hotel Avanti works out to be the same or close I think right?

Anyway does Avanti do the underside as well? I got 25 syringes of Bellafill which is close to your amount but I didn't get close to 7 Inch Girth- just over 6.

I'm thinking of waiting the max time, or around 6 months. I was reading that your body continues to produce collagen in response to PMMA but it tapers off at some point? A year- 5 years?

Also anyone know how close they can do the injection to the ridge of the crown?

IIRC Bellafill is 0.8mL / syringe and 20% PMMA, which makes 25 Bellafill ~= 13cc 30% Linnea

curiousBetsy wrote: IIRC Bellafill is 0.8mL / syringe and 20% PMMA, which makes 25 Bellafill ~= 13cc 30% Linnea

Yeah like many I'm thinking of going to Avanti for the future visits. It seems like I could actually have a nice vacation in Mexico for less than driving to Ohio.

But with the Dr. Out here, he did the underside of the shaft. Does Avanti do that?

Also I keep reading stories about people getting infections or the PMMA leaking out. That didn't happen to me I guess because Bellafill is thicker? Does the bovine collagen set faster than Linnea? What are the advantages other than the cost effectiveness?