TOPIC: 1-2 inches gain through surgery?

It\'s only Flaccid gain. This Doc is still saying the same thing as other\'s regarding using a stretching device after the lig cut. Personally I think using the device along with Hanging will do the job. If the price of the lig cut was to be reduced by half, then i myself would do it just for immediate Flaccid gain. Plus i think it will help with retraction. Don\'t quote me on that. It\'s a hit or miss.

I messaged this Doctor and he writes this:

The lengthening success depends on the excess of the penis inside your body,which is placed outside by us.The results obtained here are on average between approximately2 cm ( 0,8 Inch ) and 5 cm. ( 1,9inch ) and are permanent.

The result is visible in both, erected and unerected stadium.
Hence I am confused.

By device, you mean Phallosan or something?

I was watching the videos and if more of the penis is pushed out, surely the Erect length must increase too? (not literally increase but because more is pushed out, more Erect length is available for her to sit on lol). No?

dinogoesrawr wrote: I messaged this Doctor and he writes this:

The lengthening success depends on the excess of the penis inside your body,which is placed outside by us.The results obtained here are on average between approximately2 cm ( 0,8 inch ) and 5 cm. ( 1,9inch ) and are permanent.

The result is visible in both, erected and unerected stadium.
Hence I am confused.

By device, you mean Phallosan or something?

I was watching the videos and if more of the penis is pushed out, surely the erect length must increase too? (not literally increase but because more is pushed out, more erect length is available for her to sit on lol). No?

It\'s clearly BS. There\'s no procedures in 2018 that can give you erect length gain. There\'s one surgical procedure, but it\'s very invasive and with implantation of IPP: phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/pen...06394?pid=1304282772

Seems rather risky to lie given they also offer a guarantee (I\'m not taking their side, just curious, I will investigate further on the procedure itself as so far I agree it sounds like a ligament cut which I only see affect the Flaccid length).

I spoke to the Doctor and they don\'t just cut the ligaments but attach it back. Doesn\'t seem to be the same procedure as what is offered in London.

dinogoesrawr wrote: I spoke to the Doctor and they don\'t just cut the ligaments but attach it back. Doesn\'t seem to be the same procedure as what is offered in London.

That is a regular lig cut.

He claims the regular cut just cuts the ligament and only increases Flaccid length, but this isn\'t what his procedure does. Is there a question or something I can ask specifically to gauge if this is legit? Seems quite different from the other UK guys I spoke to and he insists there is an increase in EL.

They\'ve been reattaching the lig due to concerns about stability for decades. This is nothing new and routine for most good surgeons. Anyone trying to sell you this as something new or different isn\'t legit.

All they are doing is securing the ligs in a different place. It just helps prevent the penis from pointing downwards when Erect. It doesn\'t provide extra length.

You know someone who had this done?
Confused why it wouldn\'t provide extra length if the Flaccid length increases (not disagreeing, just trying to understand).
In the UK videos, they just show they severe the ligaments with a laser and thats it. :/

dinogoesrawr wrote: You know someone who had this done?
Confused why it wouldn\'t provide extra length if the Flaccid length increases (not disagreeing, just trying to understand).
In the UK videos, they just show they severe the ligaments with a laser and thats it. :/

The confusion with this procedure always come from Dr\'s giving the impression that the penis is being held back rather than held up. Hence people struggle to understand why the gains are seen in the Flaccid state, not Erect. In the Flaccid state the glans are pointing towards the ground and when Erect the glans point out at 90 degrees or lower. When the ligs are cut, the penis hangs down lower, so effectively the glans are now close to the ground and the penis is longer (it\'s not really, it\'s just no longer attached to the pubic bone.) But when the penis becomes Erect, it no longer hangs down, so any gain from the lig cut is negated.

Hmm but if there is 1-2 inches more flaccid, as its becoming erect, where does it go?
Sorry I am not defending the doc or playing dumb just kinda confused.
For example I see this video: www.laserpenoplasty.com/media/?title=video-lengthening
And understand how the flaccid length would increase, but don\'t get why the erect length wouldn\'t (at least a little).

dinogoesrawr wrote: Hmm but if there is 1-2 inches more flaccid, as its becoming erect, where does it go?
Sorry I am not defending the doc or playing dumb just kinda confused.
For example I see this video: www.laserpenoplasty.com/media/?title=video-lengthening
And understand how the flaccid length would increase, but don\'t get why the erect length wouldn\'t (at least a little).

Flaccid length is vertical and erect length is horizontal. The ligs attach the penis to the pubic bone. By cutting them the penis is no longer held up and hangs at a lower angle, hence you get the appearance of extra length. But when the penis is erect it no longer hangs down, but sticks out horizontally, hence there is no erect gains.

The key to understanding is that when they claim 1-2 inches of increased flaccid length, they aren\'t actually telling the truth. It\'s actually just the illusion of extra length, by allowing the penis to hand from a lower point.

On that video pause at 27 seconds. See how the \"inner\" penis is pointing upwards? That is the angle of your erection. So now pause at 32 seconds and see the longer flaccid penis, but then imagine it becoming erect and how the angle reverts back to the same as before the ligs were cut.

This makes sense for the video I linked.
What is confusing is that the German doc is claiming to attach the ligaments back and bring the penis \"out\" therefore adding length. He says he only knows how much length once I\'m on the table.
When I asked the same thing (about how will more become Erect, based off basically what you said) he said there is 1-2 inches more in the Flaccid state so while becoming Erect where will it go? It can\'t go back into the body. This also made sense, hence I am confused.
I literally just cant visualise it.

dinogoesrawr wrote: This makes sense for the video I linked.
What is confusing is that the German doc is claiming to attach the ligaments back and bring the penis \"out\" therefore adding length. He says he only knows how much length once I\'m on the table.
When I asked the same thing (about how will more become Erect, based off basically what you said) he said there is 1-2 inches more in the Flaccid state so while becoming Erect where will it go? It can\'t go back into the body. This also made sense, hence I am confused.
I literally just cant visualise it.

He\'s making it sound as if he\'s pulling 1-2\" of extra penis out of the body. He isn\'t! He is cutting the ligs, so the penis drops down, as in the video. He then reattaches the penis to the pubic bone at this lower angle, so it is more stable when Erect (not in the video). This has been done for decades as one of the early complaints patients had with this procedure was that the penis would point down when Erect or be difficult to insert in the vagina as it lacked stability at the base.

When the penis becomes Erect it will point out at the angle shown from the inner penis at 27 seconds on the video. Hence, despite the fact the penis looks longer when Flaccid, it will still be the same when Erect. If what the surgeon was saying is true then Flaccid length should also be there when Erect, yet I can 100% guarantee he doesn\'t have a single measured \"before and after\" photo showing 1-2\" of Erect gains.

Say its 1\" more pointing down when flaccid. When erect, it gets erect from the \"bend\" so that 1\" should be \"extra\" in the erect state, no? I get the overall erect length can\'t increase (you are not adding more penis, just using what is there) but I\'m assuming if more is pushed out then there is more there to \"measure\".

The other side of this is if he is pulling out more penis, I don\'t get how, because there is only enough skin to cover the shaft in its current state, so if you \"pull more out\" then don\'t you need more skin to cover the new penis.

Hence I don\'t really get either procedure lol. Didn\'t ask about the pics but can do.

According to this: www.berliner-kurier.de/ratgeber/gesundhe...roesserung-op-563768
An extension of the male member reach plastic surgeons in most cases by a so-called \"cavernous displacement plastic\". As the name implies, the male erectile tissue is displaced outwards. This means that the part of the penis, which is located in a curved shape inside the body, is taken out - and automatically straightened.\"On average, this creates an extension of about two to six centimeters,\"