TOPIC: Elist Implant Removal (and the journey back to pre-op)

Hello all, I write this in somewhat of a sad state. 9 months ago I hastily decided to get the Elist implant after willfully neglecting to research. Looking back on it now, I think I knew I would find the horror stories that are so common in these threads. I had a form of selective ignorance in choosing not to seek all of your accounts pleading potential victims to reconsider. For context, I've always had low sexual confidence. When I read that GQ article a couple years ago, I thought it was a way out of my sexual despair. I didn't have the money so I kept it in my back pocket. A few years past of looking forward to someday getting this procedure done. All it would have taken was a simple search to find this wealth of information. (special thanks to Message Man, Boston Man, and Mustang). Without you guys I seriously would have nowhere to look right now. Upon getting the implant, my account is very similar to everyone else's. I was rushed through signing the papers as if Elist had somewhere more important to be. My stupid (or smart) fucking ass decided to look up testimonials IN THE OFFICE BEFORE I WAS TO GO TO THE SURGERY CENTER. I found a Thunders Palace horror story and started to freak the F out. My inner skeptic was screaming at me. I could literally hear the little voice in my head saying 'screw that $2k deposit there is no light in this tunnel'. However, the 2k kept me in the game. I had already spent some money so I was invested. I write with so much regret right now knowing all of the pain I could have staved off. Oh well, what's done is done. Immediately after getting the surgery I went home to some of the worst pain in my life. Urinating was an impossible feat. Getting even the tiniest drop out was like a mudslide of kidney stones. I would stand in the bathroom for sometimes 30 minutes at a time facing the dilemma of a painfully full bladder and a penis refusing to empty it. Holy shit it hurt so bad'. That was nothing. Then I go to sleep. Apparently your nocturnal erections don't like dildos intruding on their growth space. Holy hell, I didn't scream like some others here but heavy breathing and biting my finger was the least I could do to get out of Dante's inferno. Over the next month the pain slowly subsided. I was left with about 70% of my Dick being numb and a stiff implant in a dynamic place. I've been reading all day and these guys are so right about penile implants. Breasts are different because they don't move. Your penis changes size every god damn minute. It turtles in cold water and all sorts of shit. Here's how your member dynamically reacts. The glans withdraw into the shaft forming massive edges, or 'wrinkles' as Elist calls them. To prevent this, they had me wear Tubi Grip which is like cylindrical gauze that compresses the shaft. To this day I've been wearing Tubi Grip everyday. My DYNAMIC member requires it. Here's how it feels with it inside you. Say goodbye to boxer briefs if you're that kind of guy. Horribly uncomfortable. In fact, say goodbye to anything tight. If you do decide to wear slim fitting suit pants or jeans, upon putting them on, you need to decide which pant leg your member will live in for the day. No more middle. 'But doesn't this make it look like you have a big package?' Maybe, but you will be thinking about the implant every 5 seconds for the whole day either because of the discomfort or hoping you don't move wrong and rip it out. I look like a fucking idiot putting on shoes. I don't go straight down as that will bend the prosthetic up. I have to bow my legs out. It's the worst. The top part of your shaft is permanently hard. It is so unnatural feeling that it's comical. Every time I cum, through intercourse or masturbation, my Dick will throb for about 30 minutes, and the pain will subside over the next day. Especially at the glans where the implant is sutured. My length has not changed but my Girth has gotten noticeably bigger. SOOOO not worth the Girth size. Take out the throbbing pain during intercourse and the noticeable increase in size, the discomfort is alone to want this implant out of my body. For reference, buy a pocket pussy. It's the exact same stiffness, and, as I mentioned earlier is not dynamic so don't expect it to get softer. Here I am, 9 months later and I want this thing out of my body. I've been reading posts all day and taking notes on others' removals. If any of you that have gotten the implant removed would be so kind as to reply to this thread or PM me, I would be eternally grateful. I have a few questions that need answering. I also need some morale booster. I'm pretty sad right now looking at peoples' results post Removal. I would do anything to get the exact penis I had the day I walked into that surgery center. I think I will be using Elist for Removal. Although I don't trust him, he has the most experience with these removals. I will definitely not be doing it in his office as some others have. If it takes $2500 so be it. If you view Elist doing the Removal is a bad idea, please express why. I greatly appreciate your feedback. Message man has said gaining original EL back is totally possible with a consistent 'obsessive' routine of stretching and pumping. He also mentioned Jelqing a couple times, but some of you don't really like that. My main question in regards to stretching is, say after 6 months you gain the original EL back, if you stop stretching, will it return to its former size? I saw Mustang's pictures post Removal and in Flaccid state it looked very swollen. Do most of you guys recall it being bulgy like that forever? I really don't want PMMA. I just want original Dick. Why does everyone opt for PMMA? I can't be the only one that just wants to undo all the damage. I may be answering my own question here but what fills that vacuum of space that was once filled with the implant? Scar tissue? If so, how much scar tissue do you guys remember being there? It feels to me like there is zero tissue between my skin and the implant. Is the scar tissue under the implant? I've seen a few things regarding eliminating the scar tissue that ends up there. Kenalog, Scarase, and DMSO with topical Vitamin E. I've read on a couple threads that Dr. Solomon says that Kenalog is horrible long term. Has anyone else experienced what he is referring to? Is there a specific routine anyone would recommend for minimizing/eliminating scar tissue? Who has gotten Dr. Camacho to move scar tissue? Was the operation successful? What is the benefit of cutting the suspensory ligament post Removal? I couldn't find an explanation for this. How normal does your Dick look now compared to what it did before the procedure? Does it return to its dynamic state? Funnily enough, I kind of want it to turtle again. I was way more mobile that way. Why do so many of you experience a near vertical Erection post Removal? Any way to fix this? Of the guys that have gone with the Removal, how many of you have a case of peyronie's? How many of you have absolved the case with a routine of some sort? ALL SAID AND DONE HOW SIMILAR DOES YOUR Dick LOOK AND ACT NOW (NOT INCLUDING LOSS OF SENSATION) COMPARED TO PRE-IMPLANT. 1 BEING COMPLETELY DEFORMED AND 10 BEING GOOD AS NEW. Again, thank you all for your ongoing contribution into this forum. It has proved an excellent resource in my time of need. Hopefully others will find this information before they land in Elist's office.

-luvcoffee

Welcome to the \"Butcher of Beverly Hills\" penis club. I\'ve been thru every emotion you have.

Its very depressing, & gets even more depressive after you take out the implant, but you need to stay positive, there\'s not much you can do but stretch it after it heals.

Your penis will definitely look swollen after the implant comes out for a few weeks. I would think you would want Elist to take it out, I had mine taken out in his office, can you believe that, he had a secretary come in to help him. The doctor is insane, but maybe others can jump in here on the conversation & advise you if you should go to Elist or another doctor.

I remember trying to tie my shoelaces by bending down, I couldn\'t do it, what a mess we put ourselves thru for the perfect penis. Elist feeds off men\'s lack of sexual confidence, he\'s a predator, & sees money signs & greed.

I too was should have headed the warning signs of others, but when you\'re in despair before the surgery, where do you turn? Like you, all of us wish we could go back to pre surgery penis, like the saying truly goes, \"you don\'t know what you have until its gone\"

Just keep your head up, we are all here for you.

@Luvcoffee
If you have scar tissue it would be a good idea to go see Dr Morgernstern in Atlanta, my penis is full of scar tissue from a previous procedure and I will be going to see him for treatment in November.
He can remove scar tissue/plaque/lumps without the need for surgical intervention using a device designed to treat Pyronies, I was rather sceptical of this at first until a couple of our members reported him getting rid of lumps in a single session without going under the knife.
WildCat went to different Urologists all over the country who all said the same thing 'I can cut it out' then he went to Dr Morgernstern who got rid of it immediately without surgery.

Reklaw wrote: @Luvcoffee
If you have scar tissue it would be a good idea to go see Dr Morgernstern in Atlanta, my penis is full of scar tissue from a previous procedure and I will be going to see him for treatment in November.
He can remove scar tissue/plaque/lumps without the need for surgical intervention using a device designed to treat Pyronies, I was rather sceptical of this at first until a couple of our members reported him getting rid of lumps in a single session without going under the knife.
WildCat went to different Urologists all over the country who all said the same thing 'I can cut it out' then he went to Dr Morgernstern who got rid of it immediately without surgery.

This is really good information, taking scar tissue & any other lumps out w/o going under the knife is a spectacular advancement in the medical field.

Exactly J.

I had your exact story.
number one, let Elist remove the implant. number two, your penis will be scarred, there may be adhesion to the shaft, you will be very short. the reason the Erect goes vertical because so much scar tissue in the pubic area acts as a whole bunch of suspensory ligaments. you want to massage and use oils and eventually I went to doctor Camacho and he remove some scar tissue that helped a whole bunch... But you have to heal after the Elist Removal. it\'s been a few years now and I\'m almost back to normal... There\'s still some scar tissue but that is something a surgeon cannot remove, it\'s part of your penis... I think borage oil, maybe one of the best things to soften tissue... Using certain stretchers that have vacuum I don\'t believe is healthy for the penis and it may even create more scar tissue....

@reklaw do you know of anyone else who has had Dr. Morgensten remove scar tissue with that method? I would love to hear their feedback on this thread if possible.

Thanks all for your support,
luvcoffee

Is this the treatment you\'re referring to Rek?

morganstern.com/peyronies-disease/

@luvcoffee
I can't remember the other guys username, il have a look though my pm's
@CampPhall
Yes that's the one, il be having that in November.

Rek. I wonder if it can fix hard/semi hard PMMA/collagen masses as well.

Reklaw wrote: @luvcoffee I can't remember the other guys username, il have a look though my pm's @CampPhall Yes that's the one, il be having that in November.

It can't unfortunately, he said that's the only thing it doesn't work on.

I am so sorry to hear about your story. Just know that there are other victims out there. I just had my implant removed one month ago today. I know everything that you are going through. I now only wish that I could have the penis back that I worked so hard to change. Currently, the penis I have been left with is misshaped, about 1 1/4\" shorter when Erect, and numb to touch. And, speaking of erections, since the majority of my shaft is numb, the only erections I have are nocturnal and that does no one any good.
I would like to talk with some of you that have gone through some of this and can offer some advise/encouragement, but right now everything is just too new and raw for me to process. For now, I just wanted you, and others to know that there are more of us that have experienced the same thing. I only wish that I had found this forum BEFORE I started all this and PRAY that others do find this before they go through what we have.

Old video, and doesn\'t specifically state which doctor did the implant, but it isn\'t hard to tell

Wow, that is nuts!

I have to do something about my EL. He's my last resort.