TOPIC: Revision surgery advice plz?

Hello,

I\'d love to hear from someone who\'s either had a revision surgery or who understands the process.
~20 years or so ago I had a lengthening and a fat injection procedure in Chicago. Since then some of the fat has become lumpy and uneven and I\'d like to correct it with bellederm.
Recently I reached out to a few doctors and one response I got mentions me possibly needing a fat removal procedure first followed by the belladerm replacement later??
It was very disappointing to me as obviously I\'d have preferred to do it all at the same time. However, if this would make it a better, more successful revision then I\'ll understand and will follow the advice.

I\'d love to hear advice from people who\'ve had something similar done in the past.

Also, any and all experiences on belladerm widening procedures and your advice and experiences in general.
Soma\'s story was very inspiring to me initially (that\'s why I signed up for this forum). Of course, his last comment replaced my hope with disappointment.

Thank you for your time!

Dr Sheldon Burman?

I had fat Removal and to be honest I wish I\'d left it and had PMMA to cover the lumps from the fat. I had the fat removed because I didn\'t want to do PMMA at the time and thought it more likely that I\'d get Belladerm with Dr Solomon. But removing the fat caused scar tissue and for the shaft skin to get stuck in certain places. After 5 years of trying to fix this, I gave up and finally got PMMA. With hindsight I\'d have been way better off if I\'d just had PMMA to hide the fat lumps 5 years ago.

Yes, that was his name.
Recently I received a reply from Dr. R (California) who said that if most of the fat is intact (which it is) I\'d need to have it removed first?

I\'m still reading up on the PMMA shots but the idea sort of freaks me out. (I know, weird considering I had the fat injection procedure a while back.)
First of all, I\'m not even sure if you can mix fat and PMMA, second of all, the fat is sort of spongy and I was hoping Belladerm or something similar would have more a smooth, firmer surface..

Until a few days ago I never even knew about these injections so I\'m still reading everything I can find.
Also, some threads talk about PMMA and Erection problems which really freaks me out..

Hey ABC - I\'d stay away from Belladerm, it does not have a great track record and operates on the same basis that FFT does, in that it needs a healthy and continuous blood supply to work. If it does not get it, it does its own version of FFT demise which is that it gets hard, shrinks and can cause multiple issues and will need to be removed. Putting it over wadded FFT is not going to improve your odds of it taking.

I have only ever had dermal fat grafts removed - similar but different to FFT. I wanted the Removal and reconstruction to be done at the same time. You really can\'t do it that way. There is so much inflammation and swelling and other things that go on when the fat is taken out it was almost 9 months after the Removal that I could even consider doing anything to add Girth.

Also, I\'d listen to Hoddle. See what guys on here have done with their FFT. My grafts had to come out as they were almost 2\" thick and dead - but they could be pulled out in one amount. FFT is different and messier in a sense as it is not held together by tissue.

Once you had it removed did you ever do anything to add Girth?

yes..it\'s all here starting with the dead graft removal. (The removal is the very first link on the first page.)

phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/4-v...ar-summed-up-8404724

I\'ve had Allograft injections and they\'ve been a complete disaster, your considering having the surgical version which is even worse.
If I was in your situation I\'d be trying to get rid of the lumps with steroid injections and dmso, if that didn\'t work I\'d try very conservative amounts of lipodisolve.
You need to have a good read through this forum.

abc wrote: Yes, that was his name. Recently I received a reply from Dr. R (California) who said that if most of the fat is intact (which it is) I\'d need to have it removed first? I\'m still reading up on the PMMA shots but the idea sort of freaks me out. (I know, weird considering I had the fat injection procedure a while back.) First of all, I\'m not even sure if you can mix fat and PMMA, second of all, the fat is sort of spongy and I was hoping Belladerm or something similar would have more a smooth, firmer surface.. Until a few days ago I never even knew about these injections so I\'m still reading everything I can find. Also, some threads talk about PMMA and Erection problems which really freaks me out..

What you have to remember is that removing PMMA is done with the same surgery as removing fat. Either way the surgeon will deglove your penis and remove the filler material with a scalpel. The big fear with PMMA is that because it is a foreign material, your body will one day start to reject it and it will need to be removed. But in your particular case, it seems crazy to worry about that, because if you don\'t get PMMA, you need to have the same surgery to remove the fat.

I normally avoid advising anyone to do a particular surgery or procedure, as I don\'t want to feel responsible if something goes wrong, but in your case it seems like a no brainer. The risk of complications from Belladerm surgery seems a lot higher than PMMA and then of course we have to take into account that you\'d need the fat cut out anyway.

You could also look into temporary options such as HA, Ellanse or Radiesse. But definitely don\'t do Belladerm, especially if it requires fat Removal.

Some photos would be useful in helping you decide what to do.

I had some problems with my FFT/ stem cell procedure the first time I had it done..curvature initially..then a small lump 3 months later...it looked bad the 1st couple of months..I contacted several doctors and was very worried. Called. Dr E. office in LA. and they advised to get the fat out immediately....I\'m glad I didn\'t. It gradually got better...except for small lump. Went and got a Revision from a Urologist (Dr Ibrahim)who also used FFT plus PRP...He advised against fillers like volume since already had fat. Said result would be better if kept the same ..improve with same that\'s already there... Almost 3 weeks out and 100 percent satisfied..no problems

@ abc
It\'s highly likely that if you go through with the 2 major surgeries something will go terribly wrong. And if it nothing goes wrong you won\'t be satisfied anyway because Allografts only feel firm for the first year then they go mushy and begin to wear off, it won\'t wear off evenly either. One guy on here got Pyronies when his Allograft wore off, his penis was bent at 90 degree angle, another guy had to have surgery to remove fuck loads of scar tissue left behind from the Allograft. Another guy lost 2 Inch of length and his shaft skin fell off from an Allograft surgery, it sent him insane and he murdered a prostitute and now he\'s in prison for the rest off his life. The amount of disaster stories I\'ve heard about Allografts is endless.
I have micronised alloderm tissue in my penis and I can tell you it\'s a complete joke.
Wildcats idea of adding more fat is stupidity.

I don\'t appreciate your insulting tone. Stupid????I thought we were trying to have an honest and intelligent discussion. Obviously there is not a one size fits all method that gives excellent results every time. .. otherwise there would be no need gor this board...I\'ll continue to post progress reports .. and will show respect to other members

In certain circumstances additional fat transfer is a good idea. In fact it\'s often a necessity, which is why Dr Viel stores fat from patients, as he know top ups will be needed to even things out. However, once the fat has been in there for a while and started to turn lumpy additional fat transfer isn\'t a good option. We have a member called \"Ripple\" who had fat transfer with Sheldon Burman. Several years later it started to turn lumpy and he consulted with a a few Dr\'s about adding more fat and they all advised he have the lumpy fat removed first. The issue is that once fat has lost its blood supply it has a different consistency to the healthy fat transfer.

Ideally we really need to see photos before we can offer any decent advise. But from experience I can say, unless you have huge lumps, it\'s better to add a firm filler to even things out, then it would be to cut the fat out.

Sorry for being insensitive
I still think in abc\'s case it would be a bad idea.

No problem.

Looking back. 1st procedure in Miiami was a mistake.. way too expensive $11,000. and aesthetics not the best. Dr Mata, Giunta, and Ibrahim all thought it needed to be corrected. No cutting . He said that could create more problems.. small lump not that noticable.. I went with Dr \'\'s. Advice to use Fat instead of HA. He thought in my situation fat would be preferable