TOPIC: Dr. Loria girth enhancement process results

hoddle10 wrote:
No my evidence isn\'t some unknown user on a yahoo group. My evidence is Dr Loria saying that he is using FDA approved fillers. There are only 2 permanent FDA fillers. One is PMMA, which is too expensive for Loria to be using. The other Silicone. There is also a photo of silicone on his website. He has previously told people that he uses silicone.

Your first hand experience is that you don\'t know what is being injected and you wont ask.

So in terms of evidence it is what has come out of Loria\'s mouth himself. There is a photo of silicone on his website. You can also check what fillers it could possible be on the FDA approved list. So yes there is mounds of evidence.

Your first hand experience has no value at all, as you are too scared to ask Dr Loria if he has injected you with silicone. The reason for this is because you know he has, but just don\'t want to admit it.

He doesn\'t use \"just silicone\", he uses a filler material and even if it is based on silicone he also adds a chemical to enhance callogen growth which means there actually two separate compounds are being used. So you sir are incorrect. And the reason why his procedure works so much better than PMMA IMO is because you arent left for life with a load of filler sitting in your penis with a rubbery feel to it. His procedure uses a filler which gets completely absorbed into the body and callogen takes its place so left with a natural organ 100% replaced with your own bodies callogen. This process is completely different than PMMA and is more natural IMO.

And I\'m sorry but you seeing a photo somewhere online and thinking you know exactly the ingredients from a photo is absolutely the most rediculous thing I\'ve ever heard.

Cctman wrote: He doesn\'t use \"just silicone\", he uses a filler material and even if it is based on silicone he also adds a chemical to enhance callogen growth which means there actually two separate compounds are being used. So you sir are incorrect. And the reason why his procedure works so much better than PMMA IMO is because you arent left for life with a load of filler sitting in your penis with a rubbery feel to it. His procedure uses a filler which gets completely absorbed into the body and callogen takes its place so left with a natural organ 100% replaced with your own bodies callogen. This process is completely different than PMMA and is more natural IMO. And I\'m sorry but you seeing a photo somewhere online and thinking you know exactly the ingredients from a photo is absolutely the most rediculous thing I\'ve ever heard.

You are literally clueless.

You don\'t get what a carrier is or what a permanent filler is.

I\'m not basing what you have in your penis on a photo I\'ve found online.

I\'ve told you what\'s in your penis. I\'ve done you and most importantly anyone else reading this a favour.

You don\'t want to accept it. Using a carrier doesn\'t mean silicone isn\'t what is creating the volume. The carrier is simply used to help distribute the product and stop it clumping. The collagen forms as a result of your body recognizing the foreign material, which is the silicone. The silicone doesn\'t get absorbed and what remains isn\'t 100% natural. You\'ve been lied to.

Where is the link to the patent you were told about? That will tell us what the filler is. Of course you wont be able to do that, as you were lied to and there is no patent.

Though I respect and accept Skeptical One\'s opinion, recent posts highlight why I disagree with it.

Cctman is not only advertising a dangerous procedure, but now he\'s misinforming people.

What really alarms me is when I read other members writing things like, \"I wont lie i like dr Loria results.\"

That\'s why personally I don\'t think threads like this should be allowed.

Claims of 4000 patients, a patent and now that the permanent gains are 100% natural. It\'s just such obvious bullshit. I\'d just ban him.

hoddle10 wrote:
You are literally clueless.

You don\'t get what a carrier is or what a permanent filler is.

I\'m not basing what you have in your penis on a photo I\'ve found online.

I\'ve told you what\'s in your penis. I\'ve done you and most importantly anyone else reading this a favour.

You don\'t want to accept it. Using a carrier doesn\'t mean silicone isn\'t what is creating the volume. The carrier is simply used to help distribute the product and stop it clumping. The collagen forms as a result of your body recognizing the foreign material, which is the silicone. The silicone doesn\'t get absorbed and what remains isn\'t 100% natural. You\'ve been lied to.

Where is the link to the patent you were told about? That will tell us what the filler is. Of course you wont be able to do that, as you were lied to and there is no patent.

Your just one person with an opinion that has no real world first hand experience with this process. You are not a Dr. yourself, you have no license in medical techniques research in this area or anything else. Your literally making an a$$ of yourself on these forums and disrupting from sharing my experience on my post. You haven\'t even met or talked to Dr. Loria himself and you won\'t even consider the word of someone who is actually going through the process himself. You are a fool and are helping no one.

Go play with your toy somewhere else.

Tutti wrote: Though I respect and accept Skeptical One\'s opinion, recent posts highlight why I disagree with it.

Cctman is not only advertising a dangerous procedure, but now he\'s misinforming people.

What really alarms me is when I read other members writing things like, \"I wont lie i like dr Loria results.\"

That\'s why personally I don\'t think threads like this should be allowed.

Claims of 4000 patients, a patent and now that the permanent gains are 100% natural. It\'s just such obvious bullshit. I\'d just ban him.

I wrote that because I truly do like how it looks but that doesn\'t mean I will jump on board. The moment I learned of Dr Loria and was doing research and then I ended here on phallo. I dont see what\'s wrong with liking his results.

Hoddle is our most knowledgeable member, he\'s researched Phalloplasty for 20 years and had various procedures himself. I\'d trust his advice more than any doctor.

Cctman wrote: Your just one person with an opinion that has no real world first hand experience with this process. You are not a Dr. yourself, you have no license in medical techniques research in this area or anything else. Your literally making an a$$ of yourself on these forums and disrupting from sharing my experience on my post. You haven\'t even met or talked to Dr. Loria himself and you won\'t even consider the word of someone who is actually going through the process himself. You are a fool and are helping no one. Go play with your toy somewhere else.

Then just address my concerns.

Show me the patent you claimed exists.

Find out what is in your penis to back up the claims you\'ve made.

You\'ve claimed what remains in your penis is 100% natural, please explain how that works? A completely natural and permanent filler is the holy grail of cosmetic surgery. Dr Loria will become a billionaire based off his patent for this wonder filler. Unless of course you are talking absolute nonsense!

You say I wont\' even consider the word of someone who is actually going through the process, yet you\'ve admitted you don\'t know what have been injected. Yet I\'m the fool!

Seriously, do you think that silicone gets absorbed by the body and replaced with natural tissue? It doesn\'t happen. If you believe that it does, you are 100% wrong. If you were told this, you were lied to.

If silicone gets absorbed like you say, you would be royally fucked. The only place it has to go is in your bloodstream and eventually end up in your , brain, and liver. I have never heard anyone who knows less about what they did to themselves than you - and you take pride in it which is doubly odd and your analogies of hot dogs and anthrax are off the charts. You are also arguing with the wrong guy re: Hoddle10, he is by far the most knowledgeable and cautious member on here. I am not sure who you are logging this progress report for, if I was Loria I would want you to stop about now.

He reminds me of myself when I injected that unknown filler from mexico. I\'m glad I learned my lesson you guys knocked some sense into me but I dont this guy gets it.

Never argue with someone in denial. It\'s an emotional rather than rational stance to take.

Make people aware that having an unkown substance injected is dangerous.

Support this guy if things go wrong.

Waste no more time hitting your head against the wall arguing with him. It won\'t work until it\'s too late.

Funny thing is how he claims what Loria does is 100% natural unlike the rubbery feel of PMMA.. Yet, the silicone Loria is injecting is known for giving a soft rubbery feel!

Nagninati that is so true

Cctman wrote:
I asked him. He said he used the same filler he used on the shaft. I watched him inject it. But there is far less elasticity in the head glands so he uses a different injection site technique and doesn\'t push it to much.

The filler in the beginning felt almost like jello in a water balloon. The second week as swelling went down the filler became absorbed into the body naturally and in its place callogen formed a rubber like feel under the skin of the penis. Mainly the shaft area. And in the 3\'rd week all swelling has gone some bruising still remains, but the callogen is starting to hardened up solid like your original erect penis.

I\'ll let you guys know how everything goes on the before and after. My preliminary measurements at end of 2\'nd week were erect increase from 5\" to 5.5\". That\'s not the full .75\"-1\" gain, but I\'ve asked about if I was going to be gaining the last 1/4\" - 1/2\" in just this last 3\'rd week. There answer has always been to just hang tight until day 21. And on day 21 we will all know if I met the minimum .75\" goal.

Now I was told if I don\'t meet the .75\" goal they will honor their commitment and I can fly down there and they will go through an adjustment procedure all over again. If that is the case to be honest I freekin dread having to through all this again. It\'s been hard as hell on me. Imagine no sex for three weeks, pain killers, no alcohol for a couple weeks, antibiotics that make your stomach hurt, can\'t get wet, have to be completely commited to massages every few hours, rewraps, etc; and all while sleeping beside your gorgeous wife. Freekin sucks!

Would I do it all over again? Hell yes in a beat! I already love the 1/2\" improvement. Will I go back again if I fall short of my goal? Yes... but in large part due to the fact that it will save me thousands of $ of doing it myself later on if there going to honor their commitment to at least getting me to 3/4\" added to my starting 5\" girth. No money out of my pocket. Well at least far less.

But damn after this procedure I need a small break before or if I have to do it again.

And lastly why would I not gain the 3/4\"-1\" girth gain in just one procedure? Well if I don\'t it could just be genetics. Some people just don\'t form callogen quickly as well as others. Or it could be my immune system handle the inflammatory response very well and resists the bodies reaction of callogen development, so I may need another round.

I\'ll know in literally 6 days end results. Will see.

You said that he uses the same filler which we believe to be silkon1000. I never knew you can you silkon1000 for the glans I thought you only use ha for the glans. Has anyone else ever got silkon1000 for glans.

I don\'t understand why everyone is so quick to judge Dr Loria but not question Dr C just injecting a pool of this stuff into the sac and everyone has no judgement toward that . I agree with most posters. Silikon injected like a filler is dangerous and can cause major complications but let\'s question all doctors who are using this as a filler and not center one out.