TOPIC: Can't Gain w/ 30%, PLEASE HELP!!!! Plus length loss, shorter flaccid, massive lump

I\'d stop w/ the PMMA and just get the mass removed...then maybe see if you need any more.

btw, I don\'t agree w/ this at all - from having similar stats before and after:

4.5\" Girth feels very similar in the hand to 5 1/8\" Girth and looks similar

You\'re super super self-critical...believe me. It takes one to know one.

I mean besides the length issue their really shouldn\'t be much to worry about I mean just keep in mind that magnum size is 5.3 Girth so it isn\'t like your working wit a pencil Dick or anything

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Wow, I\'m taken back at what you guy\'s are going through. I have to say thank for even taking the time out to share your plight with the rest of us. I know first hand what it is like to be humiliated and knowing how hard it is to recover from this and basically being a shut-in after being humiliated. Please note I\'m in no way comparing my personal plight with the levels you guy\'s are going through. Thank you guy for sharing , I am extremely grateful. And hope that things turn around for you guy\'s

SmallJay: How did you loose length from Metacrill? Just wondering.

I am new to the forum and I appreciate your honest feedback from Dr. C. I also have been seriously contemplating on going to Dr. C.

Even though I haven\'t had injections from Dr. C, I do have a very frustrated penis enlargement journey. I can totally relate to how you feel.

Imagine working so hard and dedicated 4 years of trying to gain 1/2\" length and eventually ended up with a permanent injury! I was so obsessed with (and still am) penis enlargement and tried everything from manual stretching, pumping to hanging/ADS and my biggest mistake of doing PGE-1 chemical injection (thanks to Ron\'s consultation). Long story short, after my horrible incident with PGE-1+DMSO injection, I lost the ability to achieve 50% of erection for a few weeks. And even at current state (2 years later), I still suffer from lackluster erection quality. Many times I find it hard to sustain a rock hard erection. Even when I do maintain, it is a hit and miss to achieve 95%+ erection quality.

I, too, was in a very dark place when that incident happened. All my years of dedication went down to the toilet. My obsession of wanting to gain finally gave me the worst nightmare for any PE practitioners.

I want to tell you my story so that you realize there are people far worst than where you are at right now. This may not help you with your loss gains from R2 injection, but I hope you at least feel somewhat comforting that you still have 0.5\" thicker penis--and a FUNCTIONAL ONE.

The things I do during the darkest time is AVOID any penis enlargement forums for a couple of months. The last thing you want to read is some Joe blow posts his success story of gaining more than 1\" from Dr C\'s injections. Stories like this will only make you feel more resentful of your situation and people who are associated with your pain. Take my word of advice. Avoid this forum for a few weeks (or longer). After a couple of months, you will come back to the forum with a better perspective and perhaps a bit more wisdom

Anyway, you are not alone in not being able to achieve something that you want it so baddddddd... but hey, this is life. It\'s never a smooth sailing.

I agree with slk20003 like him i\'ve missed out on tons of women who found me attractive and by tons I mean 100\'s , literally every woman not because of the size \"i\'m smaller then you are now\" but because of something I had no say in or control over. I pushed everyone out of my life and became a hermit, it has messed up my life big time. You\'re very fortunate to be where you are now anything over 5\'Girth is more then enough. Be proud of what you have like slk said you only have one life live so take what you have and run with it.

Smalljay, one thing I want to say is to don\'t let your insecurities stop you from living your life. Please learn from my mistakes. As I said, I know exactly how you feel, but once again you have a nice sized Dick now. It may not be big to your standards, but it\'s certainly big enough to get the job done. Here\'s the thing, just in the past year I missed out on having sex with 4 really hot girls. In fact, one girl I\'ve been wanting for over 10 years (she recently moved to Cali). Another one was ridiculously hot, and she ended up hooking up with another guy, and they\'re engaged now. See, I put these girls off because of my insecurities, and I thought I should wait until I had an even bigger Dick. Looking back on it, I was an idiot. At the very least I missed out on some great sex with some really hot girls, and I possibly missed out on a great relationship with one of them.

The point is, don\'t become a hermit. Don\'t stop living your life because you only get one. Don\'t stop working on your \"game\". Don\'t make the same mistakes I made.

I have to agree with everything that DWD said.

And when you look at the gains you made, they are actually pretty much on par. Most guys will usually see between .4\" and .75\" increase with the first round. .5\" is what I got with my first round. Second rounds have always tended to be less than the first. I went for a second round and didn\'t gain anything. Yes, that was disappointing and confusing. Dr. C and Wade have no idea why that happened. There are other people who have not gained with their second rounds but got gains on following ones.

The thing about this is that it is not an exact science. We can say what \"usually\" happens, but there is no way to know for sure how the body is going to react to it.

Hold your head high, man.

Smalljay, at 4.5\" MSEG you were bigger than I started. At 5.25\" you\'re above average by any measure. You may not have gotten what you want, you may never, and what you want may not be what you need. I had unbelievably positive comments after round 1 at 5.25\" MSEG. I was a fucking porn star. I\'ve never had a bad word since.

You\'ve got to stop this shit. Period. You\'re better than this. There are guys from IRAQ and Afghanistan who\'ve had their dicks and Balls blown off. Their are impotent guys all over the place who can never have sex no matter what. There are so many guys who will never come close to having it as good as you do right now.

You don\'t have to be happy, you don\'t have to settle. You can complain to Doc C and Wade. Hell, curse them out in an email. Ask them why it happened. Demand answers. The truth is they probably don\'t know any more than you do as to why. Sometimes it happens. It sucks. It\'s not fair. It\'s not fair being born short, or with a small Dick, or to a poor family, or with down syndrome, or being ugly as fuck, or having to grow up in Somalia, or be a fat ugly girl, or a million other things. But dude, you\'re freaking the fuck out about having a bigger than average Dick.

I am not an advocate for gratitude in the face of adversity. I think you should do whatever you think you can to get what you want, but seriously, this can\'t be the worst moment of your life. It just can\'t. If it is, than you win man, because I gotta tell you, even from the point of view of my incredibly privileged life, if the low point of your life is going from a 4.5\" Girth to a 5.25\" Girth, than you fucking win.

I understand every bit as much as anyone what it feels like to have a small Dick, and to have that consume you and make you want to just leave the world behind, but brother, you don\'t have a small Dick anymore. This is gravy now. You\'re like a former homeless guy who\'s in hysterics because his new golf clubs only shaved 3 strokes off his golf game. Come on man, breathe. We all love ya guy, so many of us have been there, but you\'ve gotta get a handle on reality in a hurry before you do something rash for no good reason at all.

wow you guys must be fast typer\'s. I should have paid more attention in school... Keep your head up Smalljay

If there\'s anyone on here that can relate, I feel that i should, however, I think you need to see a therapist. I honestly don\'t really believe too much in therapy, but in your case I feel that your problem is more mental than physical. Do you realize you have a nice sized penis? Did you see the post on here where women rated different sized dildos to see what size they would like the best, and it was something like 6.5\" length, and 5\" Girth as the ideal size? I think you have body dysmorphia disorder or whatever it\'s called. I understand your feelings. Trust me, I\'ve felt the emotional pain in being laughed at & made fun of. In fact, I\'ve pretty much gone without sex in the past 5 years because I\'ve felt inadequate, but that hasn\'t stopped me from going out and enjoying life. I still have fun with friends, flirt with women, and live a pretty active life. I also know how you feel with the lack of gains. I have no idea what happened with me, but I went from 6\" Girth 2 months after the procedure, and dropped down to less than 5\" virtually overnight.

Imagine losing over an Inch of Girth that you thought was permanent! I don\'t know what\'s going on with Dr C. I\'ve been trying to put off a 2nd round until things become more consistent, but you\'ve gained 3/4 of an Inch in Girth. That\'s fucking huge gains! Listen, I think you will find that women really like the size of your Dick now. Seriously.

@Samlljay, last night I tried to reply to your other post and 4 times had to delete my response as I didn\'t want to sound unsympathetic.

New guys to the world of penis enlargement, simply have no idea how lucky you are. Complaining about a 3/4\" gain that cost less than $6000! That\'s mind blowing to me.

When I had FFT, I was an 18 year old kid and spent the money (about $9000 these days) that I recently inherited off my dead grandmother, on an FFT procedure that left me with a tiny gain and a lumpy, soft penis. But I wasn\'t alone in discovering that penis enlargement surgery can leave you worse off then before. Most guys who had surgery, until PhalloBoards was created, ended up in the same boat.

The \"goals\" and expectations guys have these days are ridiculous.

In my opinion anyone who wouldn\'t be absolutely delighted with a 3/4\" gain, shouldn\'t be having a penis enlargement.

Something is badly wrong when a guy goes from the lower end of average to clearly above average, without having surgery, for a relatively low fee (compared with surgery) and is devastated with the result.

Don\'t have anymore PMMA injected. You\'ve got a very decent Girth now and need to learn to come to terms with that and how lucky you are, rather than feeling sorry for yourself. A bit of perspective is needed here and you are unlikely to find it on PE forums, where we seem to convince ourselves that anything less than huge just isn\'t enough. Your Girth is now bigger than at least 60% of men.

Hey Smalljay,
sorry for your despair. You can still get the results you want - this board if full of people who have done it, it just may not be on the time frame that you were hoping for. I\'ve been there - it took me almost 4 years to get rid of harden grafts that left me deformed. Be glad that you are only smaller than you wanted to be instead of having complications that require medical attention - small consolation I know. But it\'s one less hurdle to get you to where you want to be.
I completely get the desperation after spending the money and hoping that things were going to be solved - then finding out they weren\'t, and being out the money. Almost everyone has been there, if not with this issue in particular, but with something else in their life.
I have read over and over on here that the the results go down, then they go up - so don\'t close the book on your results yet. in the meantime I\'d say you are being way to hard on yourself. Even if it\'s not the Dick you want. Short term, just let yourself heal and get through this and see where you end up - and don\'t burn yourself out over disappointment - that can always be turned around. Just my opinion. I think you have been in your head too much with this and convinced yourself that this is way more severe than it actually is - no damage was done and there is no reason you can\'t get to where you want to be still - It\'s just going to happen on a different time frame.
And I second Restoration\'s post - things could be way much worse than just disappointing gains.

I got your PM and replied...and sorry if I was an ass hole, but you\'re 5.25 and having this kind of emotional breakdown - for being above average? Why is 5.75 your dream goal? Nothing is going to happen at 5.75.

Sorry you lost your money & your time, but you at least have a normal penis. I would strongly suggest you stop going back there because we were at the exact same place, and I\'ve started to think people who don\'t respond \"right\" are at a higher risk of problems. And, YOU ARE ABOVE AVERAGE. You have no major issues... just stop - it just doesn\'t work as well for some people as others as we have seen many times. You\'re exactly where I was after R2 (actually 0.5\" bigger) & this is why I did R3 and all hell broke loose.

And, also it can grow for 3-4 months. I don\'t know why they tell people 6 weeks, but the literature all supports growth for up to 3 months for other PMMA based products.

And yes, there is PMMA in metacrill. I had it biopsied and it\'s there. There\'s TOO much PMMA in the biopsy, in fact...unless that was the linnea safe only - it\'s hard to tell.

PLEASE read my journal and former posts before complaining about your size (which is bigger than mine) and lack of gains...when I\'ve had open wounds on my penis for 4 months and my life has been messed up since the end of March.

If you won\'t read my journal and other posts, here is a small sample.

Imagine spending all your free time at dermatologiss and urologists, and researching the web for treatments (injectable or excisional)...having painful injections that do nothing... being turned down by a dozen bitchy secretaries who work for top plastic surgeons but won\'t touch a penis that has been to mexico...despite all my posts, I haven\'t even gone into most of the nightmare I\'ve had over the last 5 months because I know people here probably think I am complaining too much. My CVS bill alone is nearly $500 for gauze, wound cleanser, antibiotics, ointments, etc... goes fast...and I have to do it every freaking day until everything is closed. (i realized you can relate due to your glans issue).







I SHOULD HAVE LEFT THIS ALONE! (~5.0\" Girth after R2)




By the way, the cortisone goes in your arm, not your Dick. If they didn\'t give you a shot in your arm / shoulder then you did not get cortisone.

Wade was really pissed at me for taking advil. Now they\'re forcing you to take advil? I am so confused. And did you get a shot in your arm or not? That probably prevented a massive overreaction in R1 and R2. I wish I had the cortisone shot in R3.

Sorry if I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning....but the last person who went down this line of questioning about \"lack of gains\" was NHSL & it\'s a sore subject given that I gained just fine - but all in nodules. So, I am the last person on the board to complain to about your lack of gains since I spent the last 5 months getting them removed so my Dick didn\'t feel like a bag of frozen peas.

I\'m not trying to be unsympathetic...you have to look at this differently.