TOPIC: IPP options

You could post photos of your penis, with the scars and also your dermal graft scars. Have something with today\'s date in the photo. Obviously I\'d be going by memory, but I\'d be able to if it was Chad\'s penis and scars, as he has a big hole in his groin.

You have Chad\'s attitude, that for sure!

Back from dinner...I wonder if Chad is watching the game too?! I have 3 kids (does Chad?), and am not going to post pics for you or anyone, but I will do you one better, Sherlock. Right after the game, you can Skype me at \'papabearpk\' and see whatever you want to see...as long as you agree to admit that you were insultingly disrespectful, and wrong. That way, I don\'t have to hear your conspiracy theory about doctored photos and whatever other garbage you want to continue to spew. And at the same point in time, you can just agree to never comment on another one of my posts that...like all of my initial posts...comply with the rules and spirit of this forum, unlike your accusatory and demeaning intrusions.

Game (NBA & yours) are over, Columbo. You have my Skype address, and the opportunity to either prove your accusation...or your stupidity. Your move.

PS: I will stay on Skype until midnight CST...about 45 more minutes...if you are serious.

Midnight, and no Castle2. I guess \'the Chad got your tongue\'.

Firstly, I don\'t use Skype and even if I did I wouldn\'t want to communicate with you off the forum. But secondly, what is midnight for you, is actually around 5am in the morning for me, so you were talking to yourself.

You asked how I would like you to prove how wrong I am. I\'ve given you, in the context of an internet forum, a very reasonable way of doing this. All you have to do is post a couple of photo\'s, it would take you about 2 minutes. One of your penis, as I\'d know the scars to look for and another of your dermal graft scar. That\'s all you have to do. It\'s not exactly a big deal is it and given your experience of the unscrupulous nature of the PE industry, surely you\'d understand and be happy to do this. Don\'t worry about conspiracy theories, as you can just right the date in back ground and if you upload straight from your phone, they should come in unedited jpeg format anyway.

A couple of further questions:

Wouldn\'t you agree that yours and Chad\'s stories have uncanny similarities?

Given you \"know\" Chad Hedman and what he\'s like, why would it be stupid to deduce you are him?

Is Chad Hedman not known for being reactionary to posts on forums he doesn\'t like?

It seems very odd to me that a victim of Chad Hedman, would get so angry over an accusation that he is Chad Hedman, given the incredible similarities in your stories. Surely any reasonable person would fully understand. Anyone with experience of Chad knows he has no problems lying and pretending he\'s offended by false accusations etc. So again, I don\'t really see why you\'d be so angry and offended, as surely you\'d fully understand why I\'d be so suspicious of you. After several poor surgeries, which Chad has led you into, you\'d think you\'d be pleased that there are people still out there trying to make sure he can\'t hurt more guys or that he has to confront what he\'s done.

I look forward to seeing your photos.

Firstly, I have 3 children and do not post penis pics anywhere on the Internet...much less at the behest of an antagonistic total stranger. Skype is a far more reliable way to communicate and confirm...I have had Skype consultations with IPP urologists, enjoyed Skype calls with my children during their European travels, and conducted multiple work related conferences successfully using Skype...so if you want to see anything, you are welcome to do so, but it will be on Skype, and you have my Skype contact name. Ironically, you don\'t want to talk to me \"off the forum\"...kinda like the bully who only wants to meet in his neighborhood...and I no longer have any desire to communicate with you anywhere, unless you want to meet on Skype to easily and factually prove your paranoid wrong mindedness. Again, your call.
With regard to your \"other questions\":
1) YOU are the one with the uncanny knowledge of Chad\'s life events, and keen memory of what his penis looks like...I know very little about either, so I will leave it to you to concoct all of your \'2 +2 = 5\' ... second gunman conspiracy theories ... and \"uncanny similarities\". Frankly, I don\'t know a small fraction of the information about either of my son\'s penises, including what they do or don\'t look like, that you have such an expert recollection and knowledge of concerning Chad\'s penis. Pardon the pun, but \'different strokes\' I guess.
2) Assuming you are serious, I have never even met Chad and wouldn\'t know him (or his penis...that seems to be your thing) if I passed him on the street...but your deduction that \"because I know who he is and what he is like, I must be him\" is simply absurd...unless by your same logic I can also morph into the Presidency, since I also know who he is and what he is like. Better yet, can I pick a well known NBA player...at least I actually do know some of them personally...and I know a couple of them who make a ton of money and have very large and functioning penises. Maybe you just didn\'t even think through your second \"other question\", and I was too quick to label your deduction \"stupid\" (although the actual evidence is mounting, \"paranoid\" has been clearly confirmed, and if you want to get out of your \'bully zone\' you can call me on Skype!), so let\'s just move on to your next insightful inquiry, counselor.
3) Again, YOU are the self proclaimed \'expert\' on all things \'Chad\'...from the appearance of his penis to his posting habits...and I don\'t know enough about either of your accusations to confirm or deny your paranoia.
4) Again, maybe we should just assume that you just didn\'t think through the absurdity of your assertion before you blurted it out...or are you really serious in stating that \"because I am a victim of Chad\'s and we both had failed PE (websites like these are home to scores of men with \"amazingly\" similar failed PE stories...so are they actually all just one and the same man re-telling the same story over and over again?! How \'Twilight Zone\'!) experiences, we must be the same person?! Fortunately, my mind doesn\'t process things that way...but, instead, you \'double down\' with \"surely any \'reasonable\' person would understand\". Wow...really?...\"reasonable\"?! I still say we should just jump on Skype together and define \"reasonable\"...unless you prefer the \'illogic\' of your alternate universe. Your disrespectful false accusations would actually have to have some basis in reality for me to be \"angry\" at your illogical ramblings. Instead, I am sorry that the members of a website with the positive potential of PhalloBoards are compromised and distracted by the paranoid \'ghost tales\' of a \'senior moderator\' who should be focused on trying to help men in the present, instead of living in the past...and let everyone note that my initial IPP post did not blame, promote, harm, or impose on anyone. It was a truthful account of a painful history asking for any available constructive (instead I got you!) feedback...like the kind that I received freely and caringly on FrankTalk.org
Finally, you will not dictate to me, and will be disappointed if you are actually \"looking forward to seeing my pics\". If you honestly want the indisputable truth, let me know when you want to see ME...not Chad, or any other ghosts you may be chasing...on Skype, even though that technology may be outside your comfort zone, and then we will see if you have the character and integrity to admit you are WRONG!

This is a forum, we converse on the forum! It will take you a couple of minutes to take an upload them.

Why would your children see the photos? Just delete them once they\'ve been uploaded! I can\'t even understand why the dermal graft scar would be something you wouldn\'t want your children seeing. It\'s just a long scar!

There is nothing absurd about my accusation. Even if you aren\'t Chad, you must be aware, that there is nothing absurd about it. You have both have the same surgical history, in the same order, at the same time period, with the same Dr\'s and the same complications. You have to recognize the odds of these things happening to the same people are astronomically small.

You say you don\'t know Chad, yet claim he led you into having these surgeries, which seems contradictory. If you only know him via his on line presence, then again your suggestion that my accusation is absurd just makes no sense. Chad flies of the handle when asked questions he doesn\'t like. You\'d have to admit you do come across like him, right?

You must also be aware that Chad lies through his teeth, so again, why would not believe someone claiming not to be him, when they sound very much like him, be an absurd thing?

Your reaction doesn\'t make sense for someone who has been led into all these poor surgeries by Chad. Surely you should at least understand why someone would think you are Chad!

So just post the photos and we can be done with this. You can post them straight from you phone I believe. Just nip to the bathroom, take one of the scar and one of the penis, upload and then delete them.

You have my Skype contact information. Period.

Ok, say you wont show the photo\'s.

But what about the other questions. Do you not acknowledge that the odds of two people having the same run of surgeries and complications, during the same time period and with same Dr\'s are extraordinarily high? If so, what is stupid about thinking you are Chad Hedman?

Do you not acknowledge you seem to know Chad\'s business history better than the average patient should?

Do you acknowledge your posting style, is incredibly similar to Chad\'s?

Finally, why would you be so angry over this kind of accusation? Surely you can see that there is an incredible amount of circumstantial evidence that suggests you are him. You know his history and therefore would be fully aware of why a Moderator of this forum would be extremely hostile to someone they strongly suspected of being Chad. Let\'s not forget, this forum only exists because of Chad! If it wasn\'t for the devastation and carnage that guy caused to line his own pockets, then SO would never have had to go to the effort of starting and often funding the running of this forum. You keep acting butt hurt, but even an innocent man in this case would fully understand why he\'s under great suspicion and why he\'s being treated with hostility. At no point have you said anything along the lines of \"I can fully see why you\'d think and the similarities between our cases are uncanny to say the least and I get why you\'d be so anti Chad...\"

You have my reply to all your inane, and poorly contemplated false accusations/questions...and my Skype contact info. Period.

samsdad wrote: You have my reply to all your inane, and poorly contemplated false accusations/questions...and my Skype contact info. Period.

How are they inane or poorly contemplated? Chad Hedman (aka the fat Hobbit), caused absolute devastation for many members of this forum. It makes absolute sense that we\'d want to know if he had resurfaced and was actually now asking for help! Given the alarming similarities between your story and his, why would thinking you are him be poorly contemplated? I think I\'ve made it pretty clear as to why I\'d think you are him and I think most people would agree these reasons make for pretty robust grounds to make such an accusation.

I don\'t think you\'ve replied to all my questions at all actually. I think you\'ve avoided them.

Also, you said:

\"Let me know how you would like to confirm your paranoia and \'suspect\' detective \'skills\'\"

I\'ve done that.

Skype...Period.

samsdad, your request to settle the issue of your identity on skype is unquestionably wrong: as long as it is possible, an argument in this forum has to be settled in this forum. A picture of your penis does not breach your privacy, which you are willing to surrender on skype anyway. Your refusal to post a pic means you lack credibility.

More fundamentally: In your first message you essentially rehabilitate Elist by saying that he probably does not butcher patients anymore. Even if it were true (of course, and again only coincidentally, we do not have any evidence or reports that support your claim) it would not matter: would you give back the job and the badge to an ex-cop who murdered people, say after he has served his 20 years sentence? I would not. The system would also not allow it: in the US he would have to look for a different job. Accordingly, right from the start, given your message totally lacking common sense, you smell of shill. Hence, hoddle legittimately probed you.

As it stands, you still smell of shill.

Skype does not leave a potentially permanent image on the Internet, and is a commonly used practice of intelligent, fair minded people...including my IPP urologists, business associates, etc., and I will control my privacy at my discretion and judgement. So the desire of those to limit open, honest discussion to their own little paranoid bubble and comfort zone (PS: we have different definitions of \"forum\") does not apply to me. I did not \"rehabilitate\" Elist, nor any of the other doctors (or their \"shills\"...I had to work PB\'s favorite word into the conversation!...like Chad & Dan), and acknowledged my failed implant surgery with him. Your \'bad cop\' analogy is pathetically inapplicable, perhaps thanks to mainstream media indoctrination...ie tell Darren Wilson, who tragically killed a documented thug ...Michael Brown...in self defense, but who lost his job and livelihood anyway because of the kind of mindset the \'PC police\' have successfully permiated our culture and society with. Now, the cop who murdered Eric Garner on video should be in prison, but I digress. Anyway, good job of backing up your ghost chasing buddy..maybe he will reward and \'probe\' you now, supa...and as long as we are conducting \'smell tests\', you smell of something that starts with an \'s\' also. Have a good weekend.