TOPIC: For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is!

@Miracle7
Your remarks are quite true for one of length such as yours. Mine has retracted maybe a full Inch to possibly less than 5\" BPEL which isn\'t an issue at my current Girth but prevents doing anything much further without looking distorted.
So I think that the quest for any measure of length when one is shorter is valid if undertaking Girth enhancing steps. Too thick and short a Flaccid does look a bit odd, so I would be happy for an extra Inch at rest. It would make me all the less self-conscious at being short even if thick enough when in action. It would mark a visual impact in memory of more graceful or attractive proportions most of the time. Also since my first session I at last walk about the house naked after years of adorning a bathrobe. Any cause to effect there?
So I will seek to recover my lost Inch of Erect length by using some form of extender and will also see if other methods will provide additional lengthening gains. Lig cuts and stretching, possibly even QuadMix with topical application of hormonal supplements? And maybe even some HGH injections? Time will tell, the year is young.
Cheers,
HC

@HC,
Do you mind saying what caused the 1 Inch retraction? Apologies if you\'ve already addressed this elsewhere...

M7

I appreciate the advice on the DHT. I am cycling, and yes I have accidently gotten some of the gel on my scrotum before, it is somewhat painful, so I\'m more careful as a result.

I\'ll be 42 in a month, so the DHT is more of a HRT that a PE tool. I think the \"gains\" I saw starting out using this stuff were due to a greatly improved Erection quality rather than any type of growth.

@swampman Thankful to hear that. Best of luck to you brother!

great advice guys.. I get my bloodwork done every 6 months and im completely Dr. scripted.

@jmanning Bravo! It is nice to have a helping hand. Desperation and naivety is a potentially lethal combination. Unfortunately, some members or guests tend to take offense; despite our best efforts to steer them from harm\'s way.

@biggerbob DHT may improve your erectile function and libido temporarily. Do not get the Andractim gel on your testicles/scrotum. Please remember to cycle. After puberty, the topical effects of DHT applied to the penis will result in little to no gain in size. The greatest potential for \"chemical PE\" is during puberty when levels of growth hormone, testosterone, insulin growth factors, collagen production, etc. are at an all time high.

@HC Glad to hear that my friend. It is difficult to find an \"hgh-friendly\" physician. Typically, a younger endocrinologist is your best bet as they are yet to be swayed by the past stigma that persists to this day regarding growth hormone. For men in \"our\" age group, the benefits are profound. You may wish to attempt stimulation of your anterior pituitary gland prior to seeking out an MD. HGH is the primary hormone released by the APG and usually takes place an hour or two after falling asleep. Within a short time frame, it is converted into IGF-1 (insulin growth factor 1) by the liver and is off to Repair damage. Since HGH has such a short life span in the body, IGF-1 is used to gauge HGH production. Thanks for all of your contributions to the forum brother HC.

@Mitacle7
I agree that one should seek out the best possible medical advice to ensure that an HGH injection program is warranted and perfectly adjusted to anti-ageing health needs. I will follow your advice and go through a qualified specialist.

@biggerbob
I guess that the DHT cream is only responsible for my rather noticeable Girth gain at the base, I stopped using it once taking the Pregnyl which might be why I didn\'t get any further gains. I may try some again two months after my first PMMA session as I don\'t want to put anything topical there during the PMMA induced collagen formation.

@jmanning
I think with hindsight that the reason I retracted so dramatically and quickly in length is because of the Gonadotropin Pregnyl injections. I was ending a \"weak cycle\" of testosterone booster using DHEA in large doses and Methyl 1-D as a test boosting oral supplement. I then went on to use the very high dose of 3000mg of Pregnyl in weekly injections which increased my libido at first but then might have increased Estrogen beyond the blocking capacity of 4 pills daily of Formadrol estrogen blocker.
Fortunately thanks to the intervention of others in this board, I stopped injecting this a couple of weeks ago and only had a month of injections for a total of 12 000 International Units in a short cycle. I hope this isn\'t irreversible as it didn\'t last that long, and I am keeping the residual from my prescription for some rainy day when it might be useful to take once in a while a small 1500 IU booster shot?
I didn\'t improvise this as stupidly as it seems, I had read the results of research of patients put on Pregnly 25% of whom had increased penis size after taking it for an extended period in similar doses. There is also the now debunked story of the largest penis in history whose owner in Brazil claimed to have used Pregnyl as part of his conditioning treatment - fact or fiction, I think I now tend to believe the latter.
HC

hcg is very dangerous if used wrong!!!! I am quite knowledgeable in the use of hormones and steriods. HCG (Human chorionic gonadotropin) should not be used in high dosages in men. if used, it should also be use only for a very short period of time. if you use hcg for too long and in high dosages your body will adapt and eventually stop sending natural signals to the testes to produce testosterone. hcg works by simply mimicking the signals sent to the testes, from the pituitary gland. I suggest you stop taking this immediately and go get your blood work done to make sure your haven\'t permanently damaged yourself. furthermore, HCG use has no effect on the size of your penis whatsoever. im hoping you haven\'t been on for a long time. again i repeat, HCG has no effect on the size of your penis whatsoever!! dont use it unless your coming off a heavy testosterone base steriod cycle.
and Noveldex (Tamoxifen Citrate) is actually a what you call a SERM. Not an estrogen blocker. tamax was designed to fight breast cancer in women. This is also another drug use by a lot of bodybuilders. it works by competing for receptor site in the breast tissue and binding to it. blocking estrogen at this site. specifically in the mammary glands in the chest. when testosterone levels are high in the body estrogen rises. rise in estrogen can lead to gynocomastia. hence tamax being used prevent this. bodybuilders use it while on steriod cycles. Tamoxifen Citrate use also has no effect on the size of your penis whatsoever!!! dont use it unless your on a heavy testosterone based steriod cycle. also, if you have been using tamax for quite some while, do not immediately stop taking it. ween yourself off. if you immediately stop, the estrogen in your body might have a rebound effect and rise significantly high, giving you gyno. AGAIN Tamoxifen Citrate use also has no effect on the size of your penis whatsoever!!!

Got an update incoming razor101?!

HC, sorry to hear you had an issue man. I\'m still using the DHT and not having any issues myself, so it will be interesting to hear what the doctor in Toronto has to say about this.

Hormone replacement therapy (HRT) can be murky waters for most. Might I suggest an honest, candid appointment with a qualified endocrinologist. Having the appropriate blood and/or saliva work done can mean the difference between doing good, doing harm or doing nothing. I would like to encourage other members and guests of PB\'s to abstain from such practice without the supervision of your general practitioner or other qualified medical professional. While the possible benefits are immense, so are the negative consequences of inaccurate dosing/prescribing.

Because I care,

Miracle7

HI Hunk,
I take HCG, and tamoxifen citrate which is an ant estrogen blocker and although every person does not react the same to these types of treatments, I have not lost any Erect length at all. I use the autoextender as well. I have not done PMMA just yet but plan to by months end.

@ttar2380
Thanks for the reassuring words. I think it also might be caused by the psychological stress my EP quest has placed on my sexuality, making my Erection quality lesser: this would give less full an Erection making it shorter.
Or it could be that by gaining Girth through the Chemical PE with the DHT cream, my unit still fills the same amount of blood as before before shutting down the valves, meaning that this blood fills a larger cavernous tissue and therefore doesn\'t \"top it up\" making for lesser Erect length?
I do think however that I should somehow regain the lost length, one way or another. The Erectile Dysfunction medicine should work well if I do get the QuadMix treatment. I can also try the Cialis pills I got prescribed but never have taken yet, that should increase the blood flow to make it get back to full length if this is indeed an Erection Quality issue. I do hope somehow that my brain will adjust and give me a stiffer one, as with the extra Girth through chemicals, and now the PMMA increase, it isn\'t nearly as hard as before. I think this is due to the Chemical PE or to psychological stress of undertaking a lot of PE efforts or even of having now an artificially enhanced unit?
Regarding the QuadMix I went to leading specialists here who assured me it is totally illegal in Europe where even Bi-Mix cannot be prescribed even if the doctor wishes to. The neuro-Urologist to test me with doppler echo sonar used a single NonMix with the main ingredient used in all mixes.
I plan to visit the doctor in Toronto who took out a patent for the use of QuadMix for PE purposes, based upon his research of penis growth during the testing of results of Erectile Dysfunction patients being given TriMix products. He is a doctor and prescribes this NOT for ED purposes but for PE purposes.
HC

@HC
I\'m really sorry to hear that - I\'m sure you will be able to regain the length with the right regimen.

A question about the QuadMix - did a doctor prescribe this? In my opinion, you may want to \"come clean\" with a doctor you can trust about your experience, and perhaps they can prescribe the best next steps. I only say this because it seems like your previous regimen took a wrong turn with the retraction, and it would be terrible to have that happen again. Just my opinion - I wish you all the best!

@ttar2380
I don\'t have the faintest idea. I was doing too many things at the same time. It might be the DHT cream I was applying which seemed to make it swell at the base and get thicker, did this pull down the tissues and make it shorter? I was also doing Pregnyl (Gonadotropin) injections of hormones from the placenta of pregnant Dutch women, and it might have caused excess estrogen despite taking an estrogen inhibitor at the same time? That might have made it retract?
Whatever the reason you can imagine this is most disturbing as my objective was primarily to gain length prior to PMMA and instead I went in shorter. Ouch!
I am now seeking ways to regain that length. My AutoVac extender is sitting in a UPS box near my house as it was shipped out ten days late by that rather unprofessional vendor, so I can\'t use an extender until I get back next month. So I must wait until then and maybe hope that QuadMix ED injections will stimulate growth lengthwise, as for Girth there are other solutions.
Cheers,
HC