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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1270487981

@razor101
Thanks for your update and sorry if I spoke too much about Testosterone here. Back on topic.
I checked out what I could online and found this link to Dr Oleg Bachtijarov and his background as well as the surgeries he performs as well as his rate chart:
www.estheticon.com/surgeons/bachtijarov-oleg
Also one can see a few pictures of his facelifts too:
www.estheticon.com/before-after-pictures...tor=bachtijarov-oleg
His procedure interests me for any number of reasons. First it is economical for those in Europe especially as I need a fix for scrotal webbing, which is included in the price. Also it leaves no visible scar and I am in public denial of any phalloplasty and don\'t want to come out of the closet at this time on the subject, having already gotten dumped by a woman I loved for admitting to more ordinary plastic surgery. So I shall further investigate this possibility as I need to do lengthening anyways prior to a second PMMA session. Let us know if any of you have contact with this clinic in coming months.
From photos the accommodations seem to be in rooms of 4 patients with Formica furnishings which look hygienic, but hardly up to modern western standards. I wonder how soon one can leave the clinic after this medical intervention, perhaps to stay in more comfortable quarters in a hotel? It is done under full anesthesia and one hopes to be able to return home relatively soon afterwards.
HC

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1270580046

I\'ve been in contact with Tatiana from Clinic-Brazil for three or four months now. If I remember correctly she is the Manager of the clinic. I\'ve sent her around 15 e-mails and asked lots of questions. I\'ll paste my questions in this post incase anyone was wanting quick information about the Ligamentolysis procedure they offer.

Please note: conditions MAY have changed since I received these answers. Also, I haven\'t edited her replies so forgive her English as it is her second language.



If I was to undergo penile lengthening with clinic brazil, buy a
stretcher and stay at the private accommodation at the clinic, how
much would this cost altogether?

[AS OF 10th Aug \'11]

\"The cost is - 1250 euro for the operation, 150 euro - narcosis, 200 euro - the stretcher and 5 days of staying here (without meals) - 150 euro - altogether - 1800 euro. Exstra costs - visa - the patients from countries where we do not have the representatives just bye it in touristic agencies - about 100 euro and the cost of registration in Russia - 20 euro\"







Also, what kind of stretcher is this for it to cost 200 euros? Also,
does this stretcher work for patients who are uncircumcized?

\"we use stretchers of spain production - \"Andropenis\", it\'s also effective in the case of uncircumcized patients (the most of our patients are uncircumcized.\"





How long does the surgeon recommened wearing the stretcher post-op? How many
hours per day can you wear the stretcher?

\"To achieve the maximum length the surgeon recommends wearing the stretcher during 6 months, from 4 till 10 hours during a day.\"





Do you or the surgeon know the ratio/percentage of patients whose
erections (post-op) lose their acute angle?

\"our rich expierience at penile field has proved that there is no any noticeable change at the angle during Erection, no one from our patients revealed such changes after cutting of suspensory ligaments.\"




Would Clinic-Brazil accept money upfront? If
I brought the money with me and changed it to euros in Russia would
you accept it? Or do you only do bank transfers?

\"As to payment we dont do bank transfers - only the cash - roubles, euros, dollars - it doesnt matter what kind of cash you will have.\"





I know this is a very overasked question but how many
inches/centimetres of Erect length do you think the average patient
from clinic-brazil gains after 6 months of post-op stretching? Do the
patients let you know of their progress?

\"As to average enlargement after postop stretching - I only can say you that unfortunately the patients dont inform us about their results, ( as you can guess, the patients call or write to clinic only in the case when they are not satisfied), but taking into account that we haven\'t had such calls they are satisfied with their progress. And I also remember, that when the correspondents from Poland come to us to take interviev about this operation (80 % of patients who make this operations here are from Poland) they\'ve made such studies with our former patients and revealed that the average lengthening is 3-4 cm, two patients told them that they\'ve obtained 5 cm, but medical statistics usually gives - 2 - 4 cm.\"





When you mentioned your former patients average
lengthening being 3-4cm, is this Flaccid or Erect? How much increase
could I expect in Erect length?

\"This lengthening is in erected state, the length of penis in Flaccid state depends on many factors - temperature, emotional state and others.\"





I\'ve been warned about the possibilites of retraction after this
operation, how likely is this?

\"Yes, indeed, retraction can take place if patient does\'nt use the stretcher - to prevent this process the surgeon puts on the extender on the second day after operation.\"





What is the surgeons name who would be operating on me? Where did they study?

\"We have two surgeons - more information about them you can get on our site. we have the detailed information about their education. In brief, they both have graduated from Medical Institutes during the period of Soviet Union, when we\'ve had reallly superb excellent education, both were educated in different plastic centres In USA, Brazil, are members of ISAPS. The difference is that dr Bachtyarov, who has made the operation to your friend has got sciense degree and many scientific articles and more practise in this namely field than Surow.\"





What is the post-op stretching regime you would recommend?

\"stretching regime is 6 months, it\'s detailed description is in instruction and film-video to it.\"






I\'m at 6.5 inches Erect (bone pressed measure) does this make it
more likely for a better result (3-4 cm increase?)

\"You know its rather unpredictable - but usually the smallest size has more likely for the better result.\"





Do you give any sort of refund or free after treatment if 3-4 cm is
not gained?

\"Clinic doesnt give any sort of refund or free (if you know such clinic please let us know about it), but its impossible - not to gain any increase, minimum is 2 cm.\"





Is it possible for me to get in contact with any previous patients
who have had lig cutting?

\"Unfortunately, I have no any address of our former patients, women- patients somtime write us thankfull letters or just correspond with me in friendly way, but as to men - nobody wrote me as yet: Hi, Tatiana, my size is...... But I\' m absolutely sure that they\\ll write us if they didnt get any difference.\"




Could I have an official quote on the price?

[AS OF 2nd Oct \'11]

\"As to common costs - operation is - 1250 euro, 200 - narkoses, accomodation - 210 euro for 7 days, and the stretcher is 280 euro and the registration - 20 euro (there is such strange demand of migration service - every foreigner who is here more than 7 days must have registration) So full costs are higher than you suspected - 1960 euro.\"



I\'ve decided to go ahead with this operation. I\'ve asked to have my appointment from around the 18th of December. My birthday is on the 22nd so my excuse to friends and family is that I want to celebrate my birthday by going abroad alone for the first time! I would\'ve done it a lot earlier but I\'m currently studying and the semester finishes on the 16th of December. I\'m going to make a report as detailed as possible on this site! I\'m also going to link this post on my report thread.

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1270581083

Keep us posted KFH! Best of luck buddy! Hope you get 5 cm minimum.

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1270581220

Thanks KFH for showing us this and good luck with everything man. I know we are in the same boat with wanting lengthening except you\'re about an Inch more starting out haha but man I\'m pulling for you. Good luck!

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1270583063

KFH, very interesting and will look forward to your PR!

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1270594314

@KFH
With newbie415 pulling for you you might save some euros by no longer needing that Spanish stretcher...
In any case thanks for going first as I was tempted having lost an Inch right before getting PMMA which makes it almost impossible to go in for a second session until I get some lengthening done. Do keep us posted and let us know if you need any help or advice as you go along. We\'re rooting for you. By the way, since they go through the scrotum leaving no visible scars they also include scrotal webbing reduction in the price, will you be having that done too?
HC

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1270647651

Thank you for your support guys! I\'ll be furious if I don\'t get more than 5cm M7 .
I\'ll post a thorough report, I might even start early as I want to give back to PB for all the help the community has given to me in the past, present and hopefully future. I\'ve reined back my expectations to what I believe to be realistic (2cm FL gain, 2cm EL gain post 6 months stretching). I\'ve also took Tatiana\'s responses to some of the questions with a pinch of salt, as after all she is still trying to sell the procedure to me. I\'m especially dubious about the \"average 3-4cm gain\" in EL (1.2\" - 1.6\") which I\'d be absolutely ecstatic to receive. Even the \"minimum\" of 2cm (0.8\") would still push me over 7\" EL which I\'d love. However I\'m not going to flirt with these claims.

That\'s an interesting question HC, thanks for the information as I wasn\'t aware!
As far as I\'m know I don\'t have much scrotal webbing, but if it\'s included in the price I might be tempted to undergo it.



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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1270746297

Hunkchunk .. thanks for the update. KFH .. Good luck and I think you took the right decision.

Guys can you please aadvise me about starting a hormonal replacement therapy to boost my growth. I mean I found many posts and comments but really need someone to summarize the options for us. Should I go for DHT cream, Testosterone Gel or Injections? if so how can I avoid the T side effects and will it really help having extra gains before PMMA?

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1270746777

Thanks razor101! If you think it was the right decision for me to go ahead with this would you say that you\'re satisfied with the result so far? Is there anything you could advise or warn me about before I fly over in December? Cheers.

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1271304439

Hey KFH and razor101

How are the results for now? can you both tell me something about it?
Thnx allot

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1271432167

I have my operation on Sunday diego, I\'ll keep you informed when I get back!

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1271440245

KFH,Good luck with ur surgery. I have hyperlinked this article about a guy who asked his surgeon to reverse his surgery after he ended up with a 10 incher. Here it is:
www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=23960
Do you or anybody else on here know the doc \'s name who performed it? I was thinking maybe the doctor in Moscow who is performing ur surgery could be the same doc. If it is bravo to you!! Of course I could be way off but just inquiring. I\'m sure there are a a few docs in Moscow who perform the surgery.
His dick was so big that some women refused to have sex with him. Maybe I am crazy but I think I would love that problem. I would love to know the doc\'s name but can\'t seem to find it. If I were that doc I would have my name plastered all over every article about that dissatisfied patient. Mr. 10\" schlong wanted to reverse the surgery. I know 10\" is huge but I still think there are ways for chicks to work with or around it. LOL. Just let him put it in half way. Right?!
Anyway good luck KFH and guys if u know that doc\'s name shout it from the rooftops!!

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1271441005

wannabhung45, the story in the article you are talking about is an old hoax. Sorry to burst your bubble. There was a lot of hype about it on other message boards a while back, but the story was debunked.

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1271450867

Big Meat,Maybe ur right but it can\'t be that old. The story came out in \'09. I saw it reported on numerous reputable news outlets. I wasn\'t banking on it. It would be a stretch for me to even consider going to Russia for a surgery. It doesn\'t seem that far fetched though that something like that could happen. Just thought there might be something to it. Thanks.

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For those of you seeking penis lengthening surgery .. Here it is! 14 years 11 months ago #1271474538

How bad is the scar on your scrotum. Is it noticeable and does it bother u?

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