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###  [Phallofill scheduled with Dr. Clavell in Houston](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155399-phallofill-scheduled-with-dr-clavell-in-houston.html#1308713277 "Well I went a bit out of order here, as I’ve been lurking and absorbing knowledge for a while, my first post was a potential option for hang and possibly minimizing frenulum distention when using...")

  Category: [Progress Reports &amp; The Patient Support Group](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group.html "BEFORE AND AFTER Photos can be found here. You will find a supportive community of like-minded men sharing their experiences with penis enlargement procedures (also known as Progress Reports).")
 Topic started July 15th, 2023 15:40 UTC, by [Coastalcock](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768798-coastalcock.html "View Coastalcock's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155399-phallofill-scheduled-with-dr-clavell-in-houston.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155399-phallofill-scheduled-with-dr-clavell-in-houston.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155399-phallofill-scheduled-with-dr-clavell-in-houston.html?start=30 "Page:3")
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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155399-phallofill-scheduled-with-dr-clavell-in-houston.html?start=75#1308724896 "Hey coastal! I just wanted to say thanks. Back when you posted the original thread and talked about King Rings I ordered one and it was a game changer for me. Glad to see all is still going well.") by [Shawn9212](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6774036-shawn9212.html "View Shawn9212's Profile")  April 15th, 2026 11:08 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html#1308713235)

###  [Buyers Remorse/ Too great of gains](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html#1308713235 "Hi,

I'm on day 12 of getting Linnea Safe from Avanti Derma. I went from 5.2 girth erect mid shaft and am holding at about 5.9. I've felt highs (post procedure) and lows (swelling) and highs again...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 16th, 2023 16:58 UTC, by [Odouble](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760003-odouble.html "View Odouble's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=30 "Page:3")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=30#1308714344 "Yeah, I think we're fine now. She has adjusted. It just wasn't the "oh oh orgasm" response I read so much about on here. But I think it's because we were more scared than anything. We've done it a few...") by [Odouble](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760003-odouble.html "View Odouble's Profile")  October 6th, 2023 19:55 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html#1308713224)

###  [Updates on P-Shot, P-Long, hang size](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html#1308713224 "Hi everyone. I’ve been receiving questions about my posts on the P-Long thread posted by Dr. Brandeis on PhalloBoards , so I thought I would share my experience here for the benefit of all.

A few...")

  Category: [Progress Reports &amp; The Patient Support Group](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group.html "BEFORE AND AFTER Photos can be found here. You will find a supportive community of like-minded men sharing their experiences with penis enlargement procedures (also known as Progress Reports).")
 Topic started July 4th, 2023 14:03 UTC, by [phalloguy100](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768094-phalloguy100.html "View phalloguy100's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=15#1308714434 "** Update 10/18/23 **

(Possibly last update)
Cross-posted in Thunders Place / PhalloBoards.

It’s been a while since my last update. Unfortunately, I stopped following the P-Long protocol after...") by [phalloguy100](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768094-phalloguy100.html "View phalloguy100's Profile")  October 19th, 2023 00:26 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155330-my-journey-with-dr-victor-liu-alloderm-ligament-for-girth-length.html?start=45#1308713221)

###  [My journey with Dr. Victor Liu - Alloderm &amp; Ligament (for girth &amp; length)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155330-my-journey-with-dr-victor-liu-alloderm-ligament-for-girth-length.html?start=45#1308713221 "Hi all -

I've been meaning to kick this off for a while, but better late than never! I learned about Dr. Victor Liu from this forum (thanks ) and after chatting a bit with Skiman by private msg and...")

  Category: [Progress Reports &amp; The Patient Support Group](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group.html "BEFORE AND AFTER Photos can be found here. You will find a supportive community of like-minded men sharing their experiences with penis enlargement procedures (also known as Progress Reports).")
 Topic started June 7th, 2023 03:04 UTC, by [SouthBay612](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6767822-southbay612.html "View SouthBay612's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155330-my-journey-with-dr-victor-liu-alloderm-ligament-for-girth-length.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155330-my-journey-with-dr-victor-liu-alloderm-ligament-for-girth-length.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155330-my-journey-with-dr-victor-liu-alloderm-ligament-for-girth-length.html?start=30 "Page:3")
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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155330-my-journey-with-dr-victor-liu-alloderm-ligament-for-girth-length.html?start=150#1308721963 "I gained an inch.") by [BMB10](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6773411-bmb10.html "View BMB10's Profile")  July 6th, 2025 16:46 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html#1308713220)

###  [Updates on P-Shot, P-Long, hang size](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html#1308713220 "Hi everyone. I’ve been receiving questions about my posts on the P-Long thread posted by Dr. Brandeis on PhalloBoards , so I thought I would share my experience here for the benefit of all.

A few...")

  Category: [Progress Reports &amp; The Patient Support Group](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group.html "BEFORE AND AFTER Photos can be found here. You will find a supportive community of like-minded men sharing their experiences with penis enlargement procedures (also known as Progress Reports).")
 Topic started July 4th, 2023 14:03 UTC, by [phalloguy100](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768094-phalloguy100.html "View phalloguy100's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=15#1308714434 "** Update 10/18/23 **

(Possibly last update)
Cross-posted in Thunders Place / PhalloBoards.

It’s been a while since my last update. Unfortunately, I stopped following the P-Long protocol after...") by [phalloguy100](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768094-phalloguy100.html "View phalloguy100's Profile")  October 19th, 2023 00:26 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html#1308713219)

###  [Buyers Remorse/ Too great of gains](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html#1308713219 "Hi,

I'm on day 12 of getting Linnea Safe from Avanti Derma. I went from 5.2 girth erect mid shaft and am holding at about 5.9. I've felt highs (post procedure) and lows (swelling) and highs again...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 16th, 2023 16:58 UTC, by [Odouble](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760003-odouble.html "View Odouble's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=30 "Page:3")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=30#1308714344 "Yeah, I think we're fine now. She has adjusted. It just wasn't the "oh oh orgasm" response I read so much about on here. But I think it's because we were more scared than anything. We've done it a few...") by [Odouble](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760003-odouble.html "View Odouble's Profile")  October 6th, 2023 19:55 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155387-surgimend-recall.html#1308713218)

###  [Surgimend recall?](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155387-surgimend-recall.html#1308713218 "Had a visit at Dr. Liu’s office. Found out surgimend is being recalled and future availability is unknown. (They called surgimend manufacturer and were told they weren’t sure when/if it’ll be...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 6th, 2023 23:15 UTC, by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155387-surgimend-recall.html#1308713218 "At Dr. Lou’s office I got to see the box it came in which showed:

3.4mm +/- 0.6mm

So basically somewhere between 2.8-4.0

That the thickest alloderm out there..") by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")  July 17th, 2023 03:50 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html#1308713216)

###  [Buyers Remorse/ Too great of gains](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html#1308713216 "Hi,

I'm on day 12 of getting Linnea Safe from Avanti Derma. I went from 5.2 girth erect mid shaft and am holding at about 5.9. I've felt highs (post procedure) and lows (swelling) and highs again...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 16th, 2023 16:58 UTC, by [Odouble](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760003-odouble.html "View Odouble's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=30 "Page:3")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=30#1308714344 "Yeah, I think we're fine now. She has adjusted. It just wasn't the "oh oh orgasm" response I read so much about on here. But I think it's because we were more scared than anything. We've done it a few...") by [Odouble](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760003-odouble.html "View Odouble's Profile")  October 6th, 2023 19:55 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html#1308713209)

###  [Buyers Remorse/ Too great of gains](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html#1308713209 "Hi,

I'm on day 12 of getting Linnea Safe from Avanti Derma. I went from 5.2 girth erect mid shaft and am holding at about 5.9. I've felt highs (post procedure) and lows (swelling) and highs again...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 16th, 2023 16:58 UTC, by [Odouble](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760003-odouble.html "View Odouble's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=30 "Page:3")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155401-buyers-remorse-too-great-of-gains.html?start=30#1308714344 "Yeah, I think we're fine now. She has adjusted. It just wasn't the "oh oh orgasm" response I read so much about on here. But I think it's because we were more scared than anything. We've done it a few...") by [Odouble](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760003-odouble.html "View Odouble's Profile")  October 6th, 2023 19:55 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html#1308713205)

###  [Updates on P-Shot, P-Long, hang size](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html#1308713205 "Hi everyone. I’ve been receiving questions about my posts on the P-Long thread posted by Dr. Brandeis on PhalloBoards , so I thought I would share my experience here for the benefit of all.

A few...")

  Category: [Progress Reports &amp; The Patient Support Group](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group.html "BEFORE AND AFTER Photos can be found here. You will find a supportive community of like-minded men sharing their experiences with penis enlargement procedures (also known as Progress Reports).")
 Topic started July 4th, 2023 14:03 UTC, by [phalloguy100](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768094-phalloguy100.html "View phalloguy100's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=15#1308714434 "** Update 10/18/23 **

(Possibly last update)
Cross-posted in Thunders Place / PhalloBoards.

It’s been a while since my last update. Unfortunately, I stopped following the P-Long protocol after...") by [phalloguy100](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768094-phalloguy100.html "View phalloguy100's Profile")  October 19th, 2023 00:26 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html#1308713197)

###  [Updates on P-Shot, P-Long, hang size](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html#1308713197 "Hi everyone. I’ve been receiving questions about my posts on the P-Long thread posted by Dr. Brandeis on PhalloBoards , so I thought I would share my experience here for the benefit of all.

A few...")

  Category: [Progress Reports &amp; The Patient Support Group](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group.html "BEFORE AND AFTER Photos can be found here. You will find a supportive community of like-minded men sharing their experiences with penis enlargement procedures (also known as Progress Reports).")
 Topic started July 4th, 2023 14:03 UTC, by [phalloguy100](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768094-phalloguy100.html "View phalloguy100's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155382-updates-on-p-shot-p-long-hang-size.html?start=15#1308714434 "** Update 10/18/23 **

(Possibly last update)
Cross-posted in Thunders Place / PhalloBoards.

It’s been a while since my last update. Unfortunately, I stopped following the P-Long protocol after...") by [phalloguy100](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768094-phalloguy100.html "View phalloguy100's Profile")  October 19th, 2023 00:26 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment/10155397-my-first-post.html#1308713196)

###  [My first post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment/10155397-my-first-post.html#1308713196 "Ok, first post but lurking for a while trying to soak up the knowledge . Have my 1st appt with Dr. Clavell in Houston next Friday and will post about the experience. He is part of the Phallofill...")

  Category: [Penis Enlargement Exercises &amp; Devices](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment.html "Alternative methods of enlarging the penis through routine physical manipulation of the penis with or without the aid of specialized equipment. Topics include stretching, hanging, jelqing, clamping, and pumping.")
 Topic started July 14th, 2023 18:44 UTC, by [Coastalcock](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768798-coastalcock.html "View Coastalcock's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment/10155397-my-first-post.html#1308713196 "Totally agree. That’s another benefit of these threads, we learn about things we weren’t even aware of..") by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")  July 16th, 2023 06:50 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment/10155397-my-first-post.html#1308713184)

###  [My first post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment/10155397-my-first-post.html#1308713184 "Ok, first post but lurking for a while trying to soak up the knowledge . Have my 1st appt with Dr. Clavell in Houston next Friday and will post about the experience. He is part of the Phallofill...")

  Category: [Penis Enlargement Exercises &amp; Devices](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment.html "Alternative methods of enlarging the penis through routine physical manipulation of the penis with or without the aid of specialized equipment. Topics include stretching, hanging, jelqing, clamping, and pumping.")
 Topic started July 14th, 2023 18:44 UTC, by [Coastalcock](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768798-coastalcock.html "View Coastalcock's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment/10155397-my-first-post.html#1308713196 "Totally agree. That’s another benefit of these threads, we learn about things we weren’t even aware of..") by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")  July 16th, 2023 06:50 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment/10155397-my-first-post.html#1308713173)

###  [My first post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment/10155397-my-first-post.html#1308713173 "Ok, first post but lurking for a while trying to soak up the knowledge . Have my 1st appt with Dr. Clavell in Houston next Friday and will post about the experience. He is part of the Phallofill...")

  Category: [Penis Enlargement Exercises &amp; Devices](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment.html "Alternative methods of enlarging the penis through routine physical manipulation of the penis with or without the aid of specialized equipment. Topics include stretching, hanging, jelqing, clamping, and pumping.")
 Topic started July 14th, 2023 18:44 UTC, by [Coastalcock](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768798-coastalcock.html "View Coastalcock's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment/10155397-my-first-post.html#1308713196 "Totally agree. That’s another benefit of these threads, we learn about things we weren’t even aware of..") by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")  July 16th, 2023 06:50 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=135#1308713157)

###  [Skiman's Surgimend Journey](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=135#1308713157 "Hi all,

I have my Surgimend procedure scheduled for 12/12 with Dr. Victor Liu. As I think I might be the first one here to undergo this type of enhancement (there was someone else who said he was...")

  Category: [Progress Reports &amp; The Patient Support Group](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group.html "BEFORE AND AFTER Photos can be found here. You will find a supportive community of like-minded men sharing their experiences with penis enlargement procedures (also known as Progress Reports).")
 Topic started December 9th, 2022 22:37 UTC, by [skiman](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6764085-skiman.html "View skiman's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=30 "Page:3")
- <a class="disabled">...</a>
- [11](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=150 "Page:11")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=150#1308717743 "Yaster,

I’m a year and a half into this now. The graft is vascularized, and probably softer than it was. I can feel it when I squeeze my penis, but I also know where to look for it. Visually it...") by [skiman](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6764085-skiman.html "View skiman's Profile")  June 22nd, 2024 12:29 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155173-surgimend-gains-my-girth-journey.html#1308713089)

###  [Surgimend Gains? MY GIRTH JOURNEY](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155173-surgimend-gains-my-girth-journey.html#1308713089 "So I have alot of questions, I'm 34, in relatively decent health, african American man with a wife n kid...I've struggled with penis size issues all throughout my life and I want to take this chance...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started March 18th, 2023 13:54 UTC, by [JeffSlippZ99](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6765665-jeffslippz99.html "View JeffSlippZ99's Profile")

 6 Replies

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155173-surgimend-gains-my-girth-journey.html#1308713089 "Jeff - first of all - welcome to the club. All of us here have one way or the other been unhappy with ourselves or we wouldn’t be here.. :-/

I’m ~20 years older than you and about 25 years ago...") by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")  July 7th, 2023 22:44 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155173-surgimend-gains-my-girth-journey.html#1308713087)

###  [Surgimend Gains? MY GIRTH JOURNEY](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155173-surgimend-gains-my-girth-journey.html#1308713087 "So I have alot of questions, I'm 34, in relatively decent health, african American man with a wife n kid...I've struggled with penis size issues all throughout my life and I want to take this chance...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started March 18th, 2023 13:54 UTC, by [JeffSlippZ99](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6765665-jeffslippz99.html "View JeffSlippZ99's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155173-surgimend-gains-my-girth-journey.html#1308713089 "Jeff - first of all - welcome to the club. All of us here have one way or the other been unhappy with ourselves or we wouldn’t be here.. :-/

I’m ~20 years older than you and about 25 years ago...") by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")  July 7th, 2023 22:44 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155173-surgimend-gains-my-girth-journey.html#1308713084)

###  [Surgimend Gains? MY GIRTH JOURNEY](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155173-surgimend-gains-my-girth-journey.html#1308713084 "So I have alot of questions, I'm 34, in relatively decent health, african American man with a wife n kid...I've struggled with penis size issues all throughout my life and I want to take this chance...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started March 18th, 2023 13:54 UTC, by [JeffSlippZ99](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6765665-jeffslippz99.html "View JeffSlippZ99's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155173-surgimend-gains-my-girth-journey.html#1308713089 "Jeff - first of all - welcome to the club. All of us here have one way or the other been unhappy with ourselves or we wouldn’t be here.. :-/

I’m ~20 years older than you and about 25 years ago...") by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")  July 7th, 2023 22:44 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/lust-love-vanity/10152930-too-big.html?start=105#1308713072)

###  [Too Big](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/lust-love-vanity/10152930-too-big.html?start=105#1308713072 "I posted a similar question on the old forum, but I still haven't really satisfied my wonder. After one round of PMMA, I'm at 6" girth. I'm thinking of doing round 2, but I'm wondering if that...")

  Category: [Lust, Love, &amp; Vanity](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/lust-love-vanity.html "A healthy discussion regarding men's sexual health, relationships, and all other male-centered themes that aren't specifically penis enlargement.")
 Topic started January 7th, 2020 08:59 UTC, by [ToughPilllToSwallow](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6623920-toughpillltoswallow.html "View ToughPilllToSwallow's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/lust-love-vanity/10152930-too-big.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/lust-love-vanity/10152930-too-big.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/lust-love-vanity/10152930-too-big.html?start=30 "Page:3")
- <a class="disabled">...</a>
- [8](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/lust-love-vanity/10152930-too-big.html?start=105 "Page:8")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/lust-love-vanity/10152930-too-big.html?start=105#1308713097 "They did take it, but they both had to stop after a while. Now, these two were a lesbian couple, with very little experience with men. So I guess it’s not a surprise that they were so tight....") by [ToughPilllToSwallow](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6623920-toughpillltoswallow.html "View ToughPilllToSwallow's Profile")  July 8th, 2023 05:28 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155387-surgimend-recall.html#1308713071)

###  [Surgimend recall?](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155387-surgimend-recall.html#1308713071 "Had a visit at Dr. Liu’s office. Found out surgimend is being recalled and future availability is unknown. (They called surgimend manufacturer and were told they weren’t sure when/if it’ll be...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 6th, 2023 23:15 UTC, by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")

 4 Replies

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155387-surgimend-recall.html#1308713218 "At Dr. Lou’s office I got to see the box it came in which showed:

3.4mm +/- 0.6mm

So basically somewhere between 2.8-4.0

That the thickest alloderm out there..") by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")  July 17th, 2023 03:50 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155361-penis-enlargement-as-reported-by-the-new-yorker-magazine-july-3-2023-issue.html#1308713010)

###  [Penis-Enlargement as reported by the New Yorker Magazine - July 3, 2023 ISSUE](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155361-penis-enlargement-as-reported-by-the-new-yorker-magazine-july-3-2023-issue.html#1308713010 "NEW YORKER ARTICLE JULY 3 ISSUE

The Perils and Promises of Penis-Enlargement Surgery
One doctor’s Promethean quest to grow the male member is leaving some men desperate and disfigured.

If someone...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started June 26th, 2023 21:37 UTC, by [GJB1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760136-gjb1.html "View GJB1's Profile")

 7 Replies

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155361-penis-enlargement-as-reported-by-the-new-yorker-magazine-july-3-2023-issue.html#1308713099 "Here is a recent Article that deals with Dr. Elist suing some other Doctors over stealing each others ideas (which blows my mind, the Penuma has to be the single most useless penis enlargement device...") by [Skeptical\_One](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")  July 8th, 2023 22:49 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155378-aftercare.html#1308713009)

###  [AFTERCARE](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155378-aftercare.html#1308713009 "Sorry to hijack your post but what is PT-141?

I googled it and they call it the “female viagra”? If so how will that help you?

Also, it looks like pills but you mention injecting it?

Would you...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 3rd, 2023 19:32 UTC, by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")

 8 Replies

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155378-aftercare.html#1308713031 "I'm terribly sorry for the delay in getting back to you, my Private Message (PM) inbox can get inundated quite quickly and despite my recent replies on the forum, I've been in the process of moving...") by [Skeptical\_One](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")  July 5th, 2023 00:37 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155377-sfo-hotel-dr-liu-consultation.html#1308713004)

###  [SFO hotel? (Dr. Liu consultation)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155377-sfo-hotel-dr-liu-consultation.html#1308713004 "Those of you who live in/near San Francisco - do you have a hotel recommendation?

Planning on second week of July, 1 or 2 day stay, I’ll be there for my in-person consultation (have already done...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 3rd, 2023 19:08 UTC, by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155377-sfo-hotel-dr-liu-consultation.html#1308713302 "If you’re not sightseeing, I wholeheartedly recommend Uber/Lyft/taxi when staying in any major city for something specific. When you factor rental cost , covered/valet parking ( a must to minimize...") by [Coastalcock](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768798-coastalcock.html "View Coastalcock's Profile")  July 22nd, 2023 15:52 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155377-sfo-hotel-dr-liu-consultation.html#1308713000)

###  [SFO hotel? (Dr. Liu consultation)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155377-sfo-hotel-dr-liu-consultation.html#1308713000 "Those of you who live in/near San Francisco - do you have a hotel recommendation?

Planning on second week of July, 1 or 2 day stay, I’ll be there for my in-person consultation (have already done...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 3rd, 2023 19:08 UTC, by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155377-sfo-hotel-dr-liu-consultation.html#1308713302 "If you’re not sightseeing, I wholeheartedly recommend Uber/Lyft/taxi when staying in any major city for something specific. When you factor rental cost , covered/valet parking ( a must to minimize...") by [Coastalcock](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768798-coastalcock.html "View Coastalcock's Profile")  July 22nd, 2023 15:52 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155380-wavelengths-therapy-prp-injection-treatment.html#1308712999)

###  [Wavelengths therapy + PRP injection treatment](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155380-wavelengths-therapy-prp-injection-treatment.html#1308712999 "The search function doesn’t really take me to what I’m looking for.. Seems that some people have had PRP therapy (blood platelet injected into penile shaft) for size increase (??)

Whereas I’m...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 4th, 2023 00:30 UTC, by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155380-wavelengths-therapy-prp-injection-treatment.html#1308712999 "The search function doesn’t really take me to what I’m looking for.. Seems that some people have had PRP therapy (blood platelet injected into penile shaft) for size increase (??)

Whereas I’m...") by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")  July 4th, 2023 00:30 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155378-aftercare.html#1308712996)

###  [AFTERCARE](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155378-aftercare.html#1308712996 "Sorry to hijack your post but what is PT-141?

I googled it and they call it the “female viagra”? If so how will that help you?

Also, it looks like pills but you mention injecting it?

Would you...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 3rd, 2023 19:32 UTC, by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")

 8 Replies

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155378-aftercare.html#1308713031 "I'm terribly sorry for the delay in getting back to you, my Private Message (PM) inbox can get inundated quite quickly and despite my recent replies on the forum, I've been in the process of moving...") by [Skeptical\_One](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")  July 5th, 2023 00:37 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155378-aftercare.html#1308712991)

###  [AFTERCARE](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155378-aftercare.html#1308712991 "Sorry to hijack your post but what is PT-141?

I googled it and they call it the “female viagra”? If so how will that help you?

Also, it looks like pills but you mention injecting it?

Would you...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 3rd, 2023 19:32 UTC, by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")

 8 Replies

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155378-aftercare.html#1308713031 "I'm terribly sorry for the delay in getting back to you, my Private Message (PM) inbox can get inundated quite quickly and despite my recent replies on the forum, I've been in the process of moving...") by [Skeptical\_One](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")  July 5th, 2023 00:37 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=135#1308712990)

###  [Skiman's Surgimend Journey](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=135#1308712990 "Hi all,

I have my Surgimend procedure scheduled for 12/12 with Dr. Victor Liu. As I think I might be the first one here to undergo this type of enhancement (there was someone else who said he was...")

  Category: [Progress Reports &amp; The Patient Support Group](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group.html "BEFORE AND AFTER Photos can be found here. You will find a supportive community of like-minded men sharing their experiences with penis enlargement procedures (also known as Progress Reports).")
 Topic started December 9th, 2022 22:37 UTC, by [skiman](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6764085-skiman.html "View skiman's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=30 "Page:3")
- <a class="disabled">...</a>
- [11](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=150 "Page:11")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=150#1308717743 "Yaster,

I’m a year and a half into this now. The graft is vascularized, and probably softer than it was. I can feel it when I squeeze my penis, but I also know where to look for it. Visually it...") by [skiman](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6764085-skiman.html "View skiman's Profile")  June 22nd, 2024 12:29 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155377-sfo-hotel-dr-liu-consultation.html#1308712989)

###  [SFO hotel? (Dr. Liu consultation)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155377-sfo-hotel-dr-liu-consultation.html#1308712989 "Those of you who live in/near San Francisco - do you have a hotel recommendation?

Planning on second week of July, 1 or 2 day stay, I’ll be there for my in-person consultation (have already done...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started July 3rd, 2023 19:08 UTC, by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")

 5 Replies

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155377-sfo-hotel-dr-liu-consultation.html#1308713302 "If you’re not sightseeing, I wholeheartedly recommend Uber/Lyft/taxi when staying in any major city for something specific. When you factor rental cost , covered/valet parking ( a must to minimize...") by [Coastalcock](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768798-coastalcock.html "View Coastalcock's Profile")  July 22nd, 2023 15:52 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155368-dr-krakovsky-san-diego-does-anyone-remember-this-doctor.html#1308712977)

###  [Dr. Krakovsky (San Diego?) - does anyone remember this doctor?](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155368-dr-krakovsky-san-diego-does-anyone-remember-this-doctor.html#1308712977 "I wonder if anyone here remembers a Dr. Krakovsky (sp??) who performed some kind of alloderm or belladerm surgeries ~10 years ago?

It was either in San Diego or La Jolla maybe?

I believe at the time...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty / Penoplasty Discussion](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion.html "Phalloplasty (a.k.a. penoplasty) is a field in aesthetic medicine aimed at enlarging the penis. All relevant discussion regarding girth and lengthening takes place here.")
 Topic started June 28th, 2023 05:51 UTC, by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155368-dr-krakovsky-san-diego-does-anyone-remember-this-doctor.html#1308712977 "Yeah, there really wasn’t a whole lot of information back then.. I remember when I showed up for my ligament / FFT surgery in Chicago.. that must’ve been mid or late 90s? (I’m mid 50s now....") by [123abc](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760947-123abc.html "View 123abc's Profile")  July 3rd, 2023 05:40 UTC

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