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###  [Has anyone developed general allergies after PMMA?](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/10044835-has-anyone-developed-general-allergies-after-pmma.html#1307692576 "I became very allergic to cats and dogs almost overnight after PMMA (round 3) - and I grew up with both of them. I also developed eczema and some other allergic issues. I've been trying to...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started February 8th, 2019 01:44 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/10044835-has-anyone-developed-general-allergies-after-pmma.html#1307774300 ">This is dumb. Should you develop anything (many ailments can develop for any number of reasons over time) and you also happen to have the inert PMMA in your dick, you'd be a raging hypochondriac to...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  February 16th, 2019 04:58 UTC

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###  [Has anyone developed general allergies after PMMA?](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/10044835-has-anyone-developed-general-allergies-after-pmma.html#1307774300 "I became very allergic to cats and dogs almost overnight after PMMA (round 3) - and I grew up with both of them. I also developed eczema and some other allergic issues. I've been trying to...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started February 8th, 2019 01:44 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/10044835-has-anyone-developed-general-allergies-after-pmma.html#1307774300 ">This is dumb. Should you develop anything (many ailments can develop for any number of reasons over time) and you also happen to have the inert PMMA in your dick, you'd be a raging hypochondriac to...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  February 16th, 2019 04:58 UTC

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###  [Has anyone developed general allergies after PMMA?](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/10044835-has-anyone-developed-general-allergies-after-pmma.html#1307701966 "I became very allergic to cats and dogs almost overnight after PMMA (round 3) - and I grew up with both of them. I also developed eczema and some other allergic issues. I've been trying to...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started February 8th, 2019 01:44 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/10044835-has-anyone-developed-general-allergies-after-pmma.html#1307774300 ">This is dumb. Should you develop anything (many ailments can develop for any number of reasons over time) and you also happen to have the inert PMMA in your dick, you'd be a raging hypochondriac to...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  February 16th, 2019 04:58 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9960223-topical-corticosteroid-dmso-to-prevent-nodule-collagen-formation.html#1306696291)

###  [Topical Corticosteroid+DMSO to prevent nodule/collagen formation](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9960223-topical-corticosteroid-dmso-to-prevent-nodule-collagen-formation.html#1306696291 "Recently had a touch up in an to attempt to correct several aesthetic issues. As usually there\'s been improvements in some areas while other areas are developing worse off than before - I can see and...")

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 Topic started December 21st, 2018 07:00 UTC, by [wemustbecrazy](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1806847-wemustbecrazy.html "View wemustbecrazy's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9960223-topical-corticosteroid-dmso-to-prevent-nodule-collagen-formation.html#1306728182 "I don't think the clobetasol in and of itself would do much of anything, so I've been applying it with DMSO since the first day and then I added ACV with the DMSO after the 4th day. It's interesting...") by [wemustbecrazy](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1806847-wemustbecrazy.html "View wemustbecrazy's Profile")  January 5th, 2019 10:28 UTC

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###  [Miracle8x7's PMMA Progress Report](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=1200#1306085166 "Hello my fellow PB friends...

Thought I'd go ahead and start documenting early. Here are some flaccid pics. Please ignore the blue paint. My wife wanted it; and it has kind of grown on me. I'll...")

  Category: [Patient Support Group &amp; Progress Reports](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports.html "Chronicle your journey and/or submit patient-specific questions here. Before & After Photos.")
 Topic started July 12th, 2011 19:23 UTC, by [Miracle8x7](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=1245#1308724176 "Hey uptownblk, another blast from the past! Since you're a veteran member, I won't give you a hard time for it, but for Miracle's sake, I strongly recommend posting on the or contacting Avanti...") by [Skeptical\_One](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")  February 1st, 2026 14:20 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9908665-ha-top-up.html#1306085175)

###  [HA TOP UP](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9908665-ha-top-up.html#1306085175 "Hi all

I had a few rounds of HA done over a year and half ago and now thinking it might be time for a top up. I had 20 done over 2 session

Has anyone else done a top up at this stage? And in...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started November 11th, 2018 20:04 UTC, by [BigManX](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4655380-bigmanx.html "View BigManX's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9908665-ha-top-up.html#1306113622 "Dexter

Did you get the same product ?

or a different one?

did he advise the amount of top up or did you choose?") by [BigManX](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4655380-bigmanx.html "View BigManX's Profile")  November 14th, 2018 19:45 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html#1306072098)

###  [DIY PMMA](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html#1306072098 "Hello all! I haven't made too many of my own posts. I've been reading a lot for years. I've seen lots of stories and I think luckily more successes lately than horrors. Sorry for those who have had...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started November 7th, 2018 02:54 UTC, by [nohidingstyle](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2989668-nohidingstyle.html "View nohidingstyle's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=0 "Page:1")
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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=15#1306075012 "Quote:

You're in the top 5% or maybe even top 1% of all dicks.
Actually the top 0.01 by total volume. Given that, I'd say insane to take the risk.

Good luck.") by [think](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5799362-think.html "View think's Profile")  November 10th, 2018 17:36 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html#1306072108)

###  [DIY PMMA](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html#1306072108 "Hello all! I haven't made too many of my own posts. I've been reading a lot for years. I've seen lots of stories and I think luckily more successes lately than horrors. Sorry for those who have had...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started November 7th, 2018 02:54 UTC, by [nohidingstyle](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2989668-nohidingstyle.html "View nohidingstyle's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=0 "Page:1")
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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=15#1306075012 "Quote:

You're in the top 5% or maybe even top 1% of all dicks.
Actually the top 0.01 by total volume. Given that, I'd say insane to take the risk.

Good luck.") by [think](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5799362-think.html "View think's Profile")  November 10th, 2018 17:36 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html#1306070608)

###  [DIY PMMA](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html#1306070608 "Hello all! I haven't made too many of my own posts. I've been reading a lot for years. I've seen lots of stories and I think luckily more successes lately than horrors. Sorry for those who have had...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started November 7th, 2018 02:54 UTC, by [nohidingstyle](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2989668-nohidingstyle.html "View nohidingstyle's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=15#1306075012 "Quote:

You're in the top 5% or maybe even top 1% of all dicks.
Actually the top 0.01 by total volume. Given that, I'd say insane to take the risk.

Good luck.") by [think](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5799362-think.html "View think's Profile")  November 10th, 2018 17:36 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html#1306058921)

###  [DIY PMMA](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html#1306058921 "Hello all! I haven't made too many of my own posts. I've been reading a lot for years. I've seen lots of stories and I think luckily more successes lately than horrors. Sorry for those who have had...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started November 7th, 2018 02:54 UTC, by [nohidingstyle](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2989668-nohidingstyle.html "View nohidingstyle's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=15#1306075012 "Quote:

You're in the top 5% or maybe even top 1% of all dicks.
Actually the top 0.01 by total volume. Given that, I'd say insane to take the risk.

Good luck.") by [think](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5799362-think.html "View think's Profile")  November 10th, 2018 17:36 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html#1306061030)

###  [DIY PMMA](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html#1306061030 "Hello all! I haven't made too many of my own posts. I've been reading a lot for years. I've seen lots of stories and I think luckily more successes lately than horrors. Sorry for those who have had...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started November 7th, 2018 02:54 UTC, by [nohidingstyle](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2989668-nohidingstyle.html "View nohidingstyle's Profile")

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- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9904729-diy-pmma.html?start=15#1306075012 "Quote:

You're in the top 5% or maybe even top 1% of all dicks.
Actually the top 0.01 by total volume. Given that, I'd say insane to take the risk.

Good luck.") by [think](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5799362-think.html "View think's Profile")  November 10th, 2018 17:36 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9886084-topical-hyarulonidase.html#1305890777)

###  [Topical hyarulonidase](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9886084-topical-hyarulonidase.html#1305890777 "There are topical hyarulonidase creams available. Would they be of any benefit for spot reducing Voluma defects where it's clumped up?")

  Category: [Patient Support Group &amp; Progress Reports](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports.html "Chronicle your journey and/or submit patient-specific questions here. Before & After Photos.")
 Topic started October 17th, 2018 03:31 UTC, by [randomword1234](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5739881-randomword1234.html "View randomword1234's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9886084-topical-hyarulonidase.html#1305900276 "I don't know how to move the thread") by [randomword1234](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5739881-randomword1234.html "View randomword1234's Profile")  October 23rd, 2018 04:08 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1305890817)

###  [Voluma or other HA fillers in the circ area - (Dr. Oates?)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1305890817 "Have people had success getting rid of "the ring" in this area with HA? Is voluma too thick to go up here? Are any other fillers or techniques (tiny needles?) recommended? Voluma was a pain to...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started October 18th, 2018 10:00 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1306007523 "Thanks Dr. Oates. The thinnest is probably belotero (not sure what it is called in your area - it's a Merz product). I suppose 1 cc can be conservatively injected and then monitored for a while and...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  November 3rd, 2018 09:34 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1305855254)

###  [Voluma or other HA fillers in the circ area - (Dr. Oates?)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1305855254 "Have people had success getting rid of "the ring" in this area with HA? Is voluma too thick to go up here? Are any other fillers or techniques (tiny needles?) recommended? Voluma was a pain to...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started October 18th, 2018 10:00 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1306007523 "Thanks Dr. Oates. The thinnest is probably belotero (not sure what it is called in your area - it's a Merz product). I suppose 1 cc can be conservatively injected and then monitored for a while and...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  November 3rd, 2018 09:34 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1305908059)

###  [Voluma or other HA fillers in the circ area - (Dr. Oates?)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1305908059 "Have people had success getting rid of "the ring" in this area with HA? Is voluma too thick to go up here? Are any other fillers or techniques (tiny needles?) recommended? Voluma was a pain to...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started October 18th, 2018 10:00 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1306007523 "Thanks Dr. Oates. The thinnest is probably belotero (not sure what it is called in your area - it's a Merz product). I suppose 1 cc can be conservatively injected and then monitored for a while and...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  November 3rd, 2018 09:34 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1305898089)

###  [Voluma or other HA fillers in the circ area - (Dr. Oates?)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1305898089 "Have people had success getting rid of "the ring" in this area with HA? Is voluma too thick to go up here? Are any other fillers or techniques (tiny needles?) recommended? Voluma was a pain to...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started October 18th, 2018 10:00 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1306007523 "Thanks Dr. Oates. The thinnest is probably belotero (not sure what it is called in your area - it's a Merz product). I suppose 1 cc can be conservatively injected and then monitored for a while and...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  November 3rd, 2018 09:34 UTC

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###  [Voluma or other HA fillers in the circ area - (Dr. Oates?)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1306007523 "Have people had success getting rid of "the ring" in this area with HA? Is voluma too thick to go up here? Are any other fillers or techniques (tiny needles?) recommended? Voluma was a pain to...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started October 18th, 2018 10:00 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9887101-voluma-or-other-ha-fillers-in-the-circ-area-dr-oates.html#1306007523 "Thanks Dr. Oates. The thinnest is probably belotero (not sure what it is called in your area - it's a Merz product). I suppose 1 cc can be conservatively injected and then monitored for a while and...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  November 3rd, 2018 09:34 UTC

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###  [Have to decide on Juvederm this week - my source (doc) is retiring](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9875496-have-to-decide-on-juvederm-this-week-my-source-doc-is-retiring.html#1305742395 "I'm not sure if it's worth it. I would be $2000 for 4 ccs for the product, supplies, and hylenex (in case anything goes wrong). But it did help smooth things out after my doc cut out all the pmma...")

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 Topic started October 8th, 2018 00:12 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9875496-have-to-decide-on-juvederm-this-week-my-source-doc-is-retiring.html#1306255297 "Well, that was a waste of $1200. HA will not go where scars are. It will slide right around them, above them, or to the side. It will not "puff out" a scar - even if you do a subincision with a...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  November 25th, 2018 05:44 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9875496-have-to-decide-on-juvederm-this-week-my-source-doc-is-retiring.html#1306255297)

###  [Have to decide on Juvederm this week - my source (doc) is retiring](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9875496-have-to-decide-on-juvederm-this-week-my-source-doc-is-retiring.html#1306255297 "I'm not sure if it's worth it. I would be $2000 for 4 ccs for the product, supplies, and hylenex (in case anything goes wrong). But it did help smooth things out after my doc cut out all the pmma...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started October 8th, 2018 00:12 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

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 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9873866-pubic-fat-lipo-for-lengthening.html#1305761742)

###  [Pubic fat lipo for lengthening](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9873866-pubic-fat-lipo-for-lengthening.html#1305761742 "Hello everyone. There are some physicians and surgeons posting these lipo procedure for pubic as they say it can expose more length hidden inside . Are they talking about overweight people only? And...")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9873866-pubic-fat-lipo-for-lengthening.html#1305761742 "I had this done (with other lipo of the abs and side of chest / upper back). The pubic area lipo was useless and INSANELY swollen / hard for months.

The best thing I ever did was the chest & side...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  October 9th, 2018 06:22 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=15#1305314818)

###  [PMMA reactions and Granulomas](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=15#1305314818 "We need to find a solution for PMMA reactions and granulomas.

If we could find something that would immediately reverse any issues with PMMA it would be the holy grail. It is possible that something...")

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 Topic started August 30th, 2018 11:26 UTC, by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=0 "Page:1")
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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=15#1305314818 "Recklaw, Mr. Minhas had no issue injecting Xiapex into PMMA nodules? Or did you mean he had no issue using it for Peyronie's?

How is it obtained in England - I am not really familiar with the NHS...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  September 2nd, 2018 06:24 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html#1305306133)

###  [PMMA reactions and Granulomas](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html#1305306133 "We need to find a solution for PMMA reactions and granulomas.

If we could find something that would immediately reverse any issues with PMMA it would be the holy grail. It is possible that something...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started August 30th, 2018 11:26 UTC, by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=15#1305314818 "Recklaw, Mr. Minhas had no issue injecting Xiapex into PMMA nodules? Or did you mean he had no issue using it for Peyronie's?

How is it obtained in England - I am not really familiar with the NHS...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  September 2nd, 2018 06:24 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html#1305306679)

###  [PMMA reactions and Granulomas](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html#1305306679 "We need to find a solution for PMMA reactions and granulomas.

If we could find something that would immediately reverse any issues with PMMA it would be the holy grail. It is possible that something...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started August 30th, 2018 11:26 UTC, by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=15#1305314818 "Recklaw, Mr. Minhas had no issue injecting Xiapex into PMMA nodules? Or did you mean he had no issue using it for Peyronie's?

How is it obtained in England - I am not really familiar with the NHS...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  September 2nd, 2018 06:24 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html#1305306708)

###  [PMMA reactions and Granulomas](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html#1305306708 "We need to find a solution for PMMA reactions and granulomas.

If we could find something that would immediately reverse any issues with PMMA it would be the holy grail. It is possible that something...")

  Category: [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content.")
 Topic started August 30th, 2018 11:26 UTC, by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9834136-pmma-reactions-and-granulomas.html?start=15#1305314818 "Recklaw, Mr. Minhas had no issue injecting Xiapex into PMMA nodules? Or did you mean he had no issue using it for Peyronie's?

How is it obtained in England - I am not really familiar with the NHS...") by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")  September 2nd, 2018 06:24 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html#1305091622)

###  [Smalljay's glans infection (possible FBG or biofilm)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html#1305091622 "My first thought was maybe there\'s a blood flow issue. Is the glans cold? If you push it with your finger does it turn white and immediately turn back to the normal color?

The topicals &...")

  Category: [Patient Support Group &amp; Progress Reports](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports.html "Chronicle your journey and/or submit patient-specific questions here. Before & After Photos.")
 Topic started August 11th, 2018 04:22 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=30 "Page:3")
- [4](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=45 "Page:4")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=45#1306149899 "Is there a medical name for this condition?") by [joshgunner99](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1813057-joshgunner99.html "View joshgunner99's Profile")  November 19th, 2018 01:42 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html#1305085528)

###  [Smalljay's glans infection (possible FBG or biofilm)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html#1305085528 "My first thought was maybe there\'s a blood flow issue. Is the glans cold? If you push it with your finger does it turn white and immediately turn back to the normal color?

The topicals &...")

  Category: [Patient Support Group &amp; Progress Reports](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports.html "Chronicle your journey and/or submit patient-specific questions here. Before & After Photos.")
 Topic started August 11th, 2018 04:22 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=30 "Page:3")
- [4](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=45 "Page:4")

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 [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=45#1306149899 "Is there a medical name for this condition?") by [joshgunner99](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1813057-joshgunner99.html "View joshgunner99's Profile")  November 19th, 2018 01:42 UTC

 [](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html#1305083450)

###  [Smalljay's glans infection (possible FBG or biofilm)](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html#1305083450 "My first thought was maybe there\'s a blood flow issue. Is the glans cold? If you push it with your finger does it turn white and immediately turn back to the normal color?

The topicals &...")

  Category: [Patient Support Group &amp; Progress Reports](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports.html "Chronicle your journey and/or submit patient-specific questions here. Before & After Photos.")
 Topic started August 11th, 2018 04:22 UTC, by [Restoration](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=30 "Page:3")
- [4](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/9817321-smalljays-glans-infection-possible-fbg-or-biofilm.html?start=45 "Page:4")

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###  [Miracle8x7's PMMA Progress Report](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=1155#1304965159 "Hello my fellow PB friends...

Thought I'd go ahead and start documenting early. Here are some flaccid pics. Please ignore the blue paint. My wife wanted it; and it has kind of grown on me. I'll...")

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 Topic started July 12th, 2011 19:23 UTC, by [Miracle8x7](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile")

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- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=30 "Page:3")
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- [84](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=1245 "Page:84")

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###  [Miracle8x7's PMMA Progress Report](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=1155#1304952482 "Hello my fellow PB friends...

Thought I'd go ahead and start documenting early. Here are some flaccid pics. Please ignore the blue paint. My wife wanted it; and it has kind of grown on me. I'll...")

  Category: [Patient Support Group &amp; Progress Reports](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports.html "Chronicle your journey and/or submit patient-specific questions here. Before & After Photos.")
 Topic started July 12th, 2011 19:23 UTC, by [Miracle8x7](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile")

- [1](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=30 "Page:3")
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###  [Miracle8x7's PMMA Progress Report](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=1155#1304945492 "Hello my fellow PB friends...

Thought I'd go ahead and start documenting early. Here are some flaccid pics. Please ignore the blue paint. My wife wanted it; and it has kind of grown on me. I'll...")

  Category: [Patient Support Group &amp; Progress Reports](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports.html "Chronicle your journey and/or submit patient-specific questions here. Before & After Photos.")
 Topic started July 12th, 2011 19:23 UTC, by [Miracle8x7](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile")

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- [2](https://phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=15 "Page:2")
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