TOPIC: Bumps under skin after girth procedure

I'm lucky in that I've got a natural 8.3" natural Erection with 5.5" Erect Girth. About a year ago I got a permanent Girth enhancement procedure and increased to 6" mid shaft (also went from 5.5" Erect Girth at the base of my shaft to nearly 7" Erect Girth at the base post procedure). At first, the filler was looking nice and even, but about 4 months after I started to notice a major puffiness around my glands along the Circumcision scar. As well, after that point, I started to get small hard bumps, including a rather new large one recently. I'm not certain what's my options to get my shaft back to its even shape.

I'm including some before and after pics here. More details to come as people post in this thread.

Need some more information

What filler was used ?
Are you using any pumping devices or stretchers ?
Have you tried massaging the bumps and if yes what do they feel like ?
Do they move or stay put?
Can they be squashed or are they rock hard ?

Thanks for the quick reply.
The filler is whatever Loria typically uses. I've used a Penimaster Hanging device for about 3 weeks in early January and saw some Flaccid length gains that didn't seem to last. I recently got a new cylinder for my pump that's only a bit wider than my Erect Girth and I've used that about 3-4 times for 30-40 minutes each time. I've tried massaging the bumps and they are pretty solid under the skin. They're hard but not rock hard, including the new large one. The bumps seem to stay in the same exact spot in which they've appeared.

Please let me know if you've got other questions about my scenario because I likely have more details to share that might be pertinent.

unfortunately I believe he uses silicone - I am unaware of a way to correct silicone filler problems . Hopefully another member dose or one of the Dr.s

I know they are able to layer over the bumps but I would hate it if more bumps eventually result. I would have been fine with the bumps that occurred over the last year but this recent one spooked me because it was sudden, rather large, and it's been a long while now since I had the procedure. I'm not too sure what to do at this point because they can also do some kind of drainage or inject Kenalog, but I don't know much about those options yet and I don't want to lose the Girth either (except for the puffiness around my glands).

I appreciate your advice and let me know if you're aware of members on here who have had personal experience with the Dr.

As I've advised in our previous exchange, I'd get a 2nd or 3rd opinion, including the Doctors I shared with you. What I'd advise against is seeing Dr. Loria again as he is neither a Urologist, Plastic Surgeon, or Dermatologist and is not going to have the requisite experience or insight on how to best resolve your situation (in my opinion).

If you use the Search Tab both here and on the older site ( PhalloBoards 2.0 ), you can find some scattered Loria-posts. You can always try private messaging them, that could help branch out your search. Also, I'd recommend posting on that LPSG thread I linked to you, sharing your experience and simply asking any lurker who might have had a similar situation to private message you. Lastly, I'll go through my inbox and will see if I can convince any of the people who reached out to me privately about their Loria complications, to see if they are willing to chat with you.

Normally nodules "can be smoothed over" with additional filler, but those nodules are often immediately apparent after you've recovered from a procedure. To see puffiness and numerous hard nodules arise many months after the fact suggests to me granulomas, which I would NOT attempt to smooth over with additional filler. However, I'm not a doctor and you'd need to get this diagnosed by the appropriate professional.

And while granulomas are uncommon, they can and do happen, even with non-silicone fillers, albeit rarely - I just want to stress not to be alarmed, this can treatable with the right course of action - which is why I stressed avoiding Dr. Loria (he made his career as a hair restoration specialist & nutritionist) and seeing the Doctors I suggested to you in our previous exchange. Good luck and keep us posted!

Yes I recently saw that thread on LPSG and it was surprising. I'll make some addition to that conversation and really hope I can get a hold of someone who has had experience with a similar issue as I have. Please let me know if you can put me in touch with a couple of active members who have reached out to you.

Can you share a bit more about what you know of granulomas and why they can't be smoother over with filler so that I can have the right language. I did a bit of internet research but all I came across was a reference to 'dead' tissue deposits. The bumps aren't overly hard but not soft either and don't seem like they could or would shift.

I appreciate the information and I'll keep posting updates.

Dr Loria
Natural Selection

KR33 wrote: Yes I recently saw that thread on LPSG and it was surprising. I'll make some addition to that conversation and really hope I can get a hold of someone who has had experience with a similar issue as I have. Please let me know if you can put me in touch with a couple of active members who have reached out to you.

Can you share a bit more about what you know of granulomas and why they can't be smoother over with filler so that I can have the right language. I did a bit of internet research but all I came across was a reference to 'dead' tissue deposits. The bumps aren't overly hard but not soft either and don't seem like they could or would shift.

I appreciate the information and I'll keep posting updates.

Here are some Sponsor responses to Granulomas, remember you can use the Newbie Guide and/or Search Tab:

PhalloFILL:
The risk of a granuloma, inflammation, and lumps are extremely rare when using HA Dermal Filler. A true granuloma is rare with an estimate occurrence of 0.01 to 1 percent. Generally, this is with auto immune comprised patients but can occur in healthy patients also. Granulomas are generally easy to deal with. Sometimes we can break them up with saline and a technique we use in the clinic. We also have hyaluronidase at our disposal if needed to dissolve. Steroid injections could be used as a last resort.

Dr. Solomon:
Granulomas are microscopic foreign body reactions that are a normal response to a foreign body injected into any part of the body. For example, liquid silicone often gets injected into the buttocks and hips (especially outside of the US, but illegally in the US as well) and the response is the same as in the penis. It looks good for a while, but over time, granulomas form and get firmer and distort the appearance of the injection site.
Granulomas are Balls of scar tissue. They can occur with any of the injectable materials if the material remains in place for a long enough amount of time. You can think of this like a snowball. Once the process of granuloma formation starts, it will continue as the body tries to “wall off” the foreign material. With time, these lumps will get larger.

Even with the information found here, I believe you're at a stage now where most of the info you get should be from your 2nd or 3rd opinion doctor. You're at a treatment stage and I'd much prefer you rely on their consultations rather than forum anecdotes - although don't get me wrong, the Newbie Guide does contain a Doctor Q&A which is helpful.

Yes this is all very helpful. I just can't imagine this problem looking worse and the bumps seem to be in one quadrant of my Dick, so perhaps it's accurate that the issue is spreading somehow. Scary stuff but I suppose it's best to know my options so long as I can afford those options.

Did you ever post about it on the LPSG thread I sent you? I strongly suggest you do - at the very least some lurkers may end up messaging you with relatable problems.

Yes I just did after getting back into an old account I had on there. I'm hoping that others can describe their issues so I can compare. I'm trying to see how common this is, when the bumps appeared, their hardness, configuration, etc. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of LPSG as well, although it's clear that it's a very different kind of forum from what's here.

KR33 wrote: Yes I just did after getting back into an old account I had on there. I'm hoping that others can describe their issues so I can compare. I'm trying to see how common this is, when the bumps appeared, their hardness, configuration, etc. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of LPSG as well, although it's clear that it's a very different kind of forum from what's here.

Yea that site is more for penis enthusiasts and all their ads are adult content. They have a penis enlargement sub-category and there is this Dr. Loria thread where it's become almost cult-like. It's too bad some of these guys will have to learn the hard way --> don't get your penis performed on by a guy who was once a hair-restoration specialist, yet he's bald, and who was once a nutritionist, yet he's overweight. What do you think his penis work will shape up to be? I'm not even trying to be offensive or crass, just follow the trend. Never mind his attempts at shilling this forum years ago creating fake accounts, and once he got busted, he started creating accounts pretending to be me on other penis forums. Real mature coming from an accredited doctor right?

Anyways, you got what you got done, and I hope you can find the support you need here, on that site, or through a reputable doctor who can provide you a solid 2nd opinion. Did you reach out to any of the ones I suggested? I believe it was through email, no?

Yes I sure did. I had a virtual consult with Dr. Liu last week and have an upcoming appt with Dr. Carney soon. I already feel more in control the more I'm informed!

Jumping in here for my $.02

The last thing you need to be worried about in this situation is keeping the Girth or smoothing things out. Silicone is nothing to mess around with. Strongly advise you to get with dr Solomon or dr Carney / Morganstern to advise you on your next best action before things potentially escalate.