Decided to share my experiences here. I could certainly use the community's guidance. I'd completed a lot of research. Started looking at the penuma. Quickly realized the horror stories, booked a consult for Bellafill but soon realized I wasn't ready to go with a irreversible treatment. Decided I first wanted to get HA and booked an appointment. I'm two weeks in and want to chronical my journey.
A bit of background, I've always been a Grower, not a shower. Pretreatment measurements, FL 3.5, FG 3.75, EL 7.25, EG 4.75.
I went in thinking I'd get 10-12 ml and plan for a follow up as I'd read about needed corrections. After erecting, however, my doctor realized my length and thought I might want to go with a bit more filler. She was right. I ended up with 16 ml. She said, I could go for up to 20, but, I decided I'd take it a bit slower and plan for a return.
I'll attach a pretreatment semi Erect first. I have always been complimented in my length. But, I never was happy with the Girth. I guess it is considered average, from everything I've read and had women comment on. But, I think the extra length always made me feel "skinny". This was made worse by my recently ended relationship. She appreciated Girth in prior relationships and while never overt, would say things about how I didn't quite measure up in that area.
So, post-relationship, I dtermined that it was a good time to make that change... before starting anew with someone else. My procedure was July 12th, two weeks ago.
After receiving the 16 ml, I noticed a lot of the filler had been placed close to the base and middle sides. I also felt like it was off center and began massaging and working it out and around. This was taken the night after my procedure. Pretty swollen and some bruising already apparent.
I had an uncomfortable night of sleep and woke a few times, feeling the trauma a bit more and worried I was not sleeping on my back. I remember thinking I would cause some damage. I'm guessing that might be a common concern.
The following morning, I woke to much anticipation and a lot of swelling and bruising. The first thing I noticed, upon putting my feet on the floor, was how much heavier it felt having 16 ml of added volume. Upon first touch it was tender but felt great to feel the bigger Girth, albeit somewhat from the swelling.
When I went into the bathroom and took a good look, though, I became really concerned as it felt very thick in the mid shaft and, to a lessor extent, base but less so toward the glans. I tried some massage and movement of the filler but it already felt quite difficult to move around. I took a long, warm shower to try to loosen it up and did notice some greater pliability. But, still difficult to move 16 hrs after the procedure and it felt i could only move it slightly.
It also seemed that, despite the compression, the HA had either not been fanned as much as I'd have liked or had moved during the night and was concentrated in the mid shaft. I also noticed it felt like there was more on the left versus the right side. I know, from watching the filler go in, that wasn't the case. I do have a slight bend to the left. Might that have caused more movement to that side or initial placement off-center? I also wondered if, as I said before, my much smaller Flaccid length allowed it to bunch in the middle. Any thoughts on this from others experiencing this initial look?
When I turned the shaft over to look at the underside, I was, a bit, frightened by the amount of bruising. I'm wondering if others experienced the same level of black and blue.
I reached out to the doc, with photos attached, and was assured that swelling and bruising were normal. They recommended icing for 15-20 minutes to reduce the swelling and to avoid IB since, they said, that can make the bruising even worse.
That day, at work, I was going to the restroom quite often to adjust the wrap, removing it for periods (keeping it, as recommended, upright) and working the gel as much as I could. I was still a bit uneasy with the level of bruising that seemed to increase that first day. In hindsight, I wonder if keeping it upright, allowed filler nearer the glans to move upward toward the middle more.
I'm two weeks in. I still have just the smallest amount of tenderness in the injection areas. I'm really hoping to go in next week and get some of these areas smoothed out. I've dimples or pockets where I don't see much - despite my initial compression and massage.
Is three weeks too soon for an HA 2nd fill? I've been reading a lot and, it sounds like, after two weeks, it's pretty much settled into where it'll remain. Doc said anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks, once the swelling and bruising subsided, we could do a top off. Any movement possible after a couple weeks?
I really need to address an entire area, on top and near the right side, by the glans. Right now, Flaccid, it looks a bit like a turtle popping out of a girthy shell. The needle points were so far down, I don't think the canula was long enough, to reach near the glans. Plus, the doc seemed to really focus on the base. I would like to get in as soon as i can for the touch up. I don't really want to have any woman seeing the turtle head until I'm a bit more complete!
The other thing I'm considering is glans augmentation. With the increased Girth, I can already see where my head is going to look out of proportion to this increased Girth.
So after three and a half weeks, I decided to go in for some minor modifications and corrections. I just returned and thought I'd post a quick update with some photos.
I had a bit of unevenness on my left side that was top priority to address. I'm probably way over-sensitive but I've avoided any sexual partners until i could get this corrected. Prior to my procedure, I had a not-so-insignificant bend in that direction. I think that, after my first round, the way I sit, and the way I bend that way naturally, didn't help and might have caused that indentation. I'm going to much more careful to take care of that this time.
I also noticed that I had very little, from the first round, that stayed near the centerline closer to the glans. Finally, I had a bit of unevenness where the filler ended, up near my glans and needed to get that equaled and close to my head. It made my glans look like an uneven turtle head with a skinny neck popping from a bigger shell. Definitely needed some added fill, on top, near the Circumcision line.
We only added four ml this time. I thought to go for even a bit more but the doc said we should let these results settle in and make any 1-2 ml corrections if I still wanted to smooth out any abnormalities. I'm fine with it not being 100% perfectly smooth, adds a bit of character to have a small amount of ribbing haha. And, I'm assuming that, over time, the HA will smooth out just a bit. I learned quite a bit from round one and I am dedicated to keeping as Erect as I can without causing issue. I think this will help with my Grower status causing any "bunching".
My one area that, upon initial look, I'm still watching carefully is on the left side where the rather large indentation was before this round. I can already still see the smallest of creases. Of the 4 ml they added, a full ml went there. But, I think it might take just a bit more to fully smooth that out.
I'm very pleased with how the area on top and in the right side, near the glans filled in. Most of the remaining 3 ml went there and I'm happy with how it looks right now. It definitely reduced the turtle neck profile.
I'm a lot less swollen this time. Have some gnarly looking needle holes. But I'm less worried about those as they're easy to keep clean and they healed up rather fast after the first round. So I'll take that with a lot less swelling and no signs of serious bruising. I am sure there's a small amout of swelling. But, right now, I'm sitting at 5.5" midshaft and just a hair under that nearer the glans and the base. Given that I've a smaller glans, I think the minor barbell look fits my length and shape.
In hindsight, I'm also glad we only added 4 ml this time. Perhaps, I'll get another 1-2 ml the next time
From a budget standpoint, it helps. Makes it a bit more affordable upkeep (not that I'm in any position to do that every month nor do I want my penis out of commission that much!) Looking forward to massage, wrapping and healing over the weekend before I have to go back to work on Monday. Hoping in a week to ten days, I'll be ready to try it out the girthier me on a partner.
It's not unusual to have follow-up appointments, I've seen a Doctor produce a picture-perfect penis and then have another one of his patient's end up with imperfections. I always try to remind guys that there is a degree of unpredictability with an end result, so touch-ups are part of the norm.
Do you mind if I ask who your Doctor was? I re-read the whole thread, if I missed it, pardon my blindness.
I wasnt sure if I should mention it since they're not a sponsoring doc. Zakany of MenRegen in Denver. That's the only local HA fill doctor I've found. There's also only one doc in Denver, that I'm aware, doing the more permanent Bellafill. I decided I was comfortable with the less permanent, HA filler going to someone local after checking references. If I decided to go with the more permanent, I think I'd go to someone on the sponsor list or, I love Truckerguy's results and would probably make the travel to a doc dedicated and experienced with that. Not sure I'll ever go that option. At my age, early 50s, I might just continue with the occasional maintenance of HA.
Denver2530 wrote: I wasnt sure if I should mention it since they're not a sponsoring doc. Zakany of MenRegen in Denver. That's the only local HA fill doctor I've found. There's also only one doc in Denver, that I'm aware, doing the more permanent Bellafill. I decided I was comfortable with the less permanent, HA filler going to someone local after checking references. If I decided to go with the more permanent, I think I'd go to someone on the sponsor list or, I love Truckerguy's results and would probably make the travel to a doc dedicated and experienced with that. Not sure I'll ever go that option. At my age, early 50s, I might just continue with the occasional maintenance of HA.
Oh no, no worries! This is meant to be a free-flowing information exchange so that we can learn about the best options for each of our individual goals & needs.
It's about you sharing your experience, that way people know whether or not the Doctor is any good. Who knows, maybe they become a Sponsor, and if not, it's okay. This is a Patient Review Site first, otherwise it would have never succeeded as a platform for Sponsors. Of course, naturally I'm going to promote them, since all my Sponsors are vetted & specialize in penis enlargement, whereas many other Clinics just "happen to offer it because they have access to off-label use of dermal fillers." If you end up satisfied, stay with your practitioner. If you aren't but still would like more HA, a 2 hour flight to Dallas with a very skilled injector in PhalloFILL. If you end up going the PMMA route, Avanti Derma or Dr. Rupeka.
I thought I'd post a couple additional photos since it's now been six weeks since my 2nd round of HA. Overall, I'm 85-90%% happy. I'm at 5.5 Girth in most spots. Slightly less right near the base which doesn't concern me too much. But, I've a couple spots that probably need a couple MLs of filler just to even things out (and maybe add a slight amount of Girth).
The biggest concerns I have are with the gap between the circ scar and the glans. I am a bit apprehensive about putting product in the circ scar area. The doc said, I will if you absolutely want it but, in my experience, I can't recommend. The other issue I'm experiencing is the size of my glans relative to my larger Girth. I don't like the Grower-turtle look. Again, doc says they'll do it if i want, around the ridge only. Has anyone else had this done and did it make a difference in glans size? I can't imagine having nodes in the head. I've read the posts and HA filler appears to be the only (currently) recommended option. But, I've also read that it can get lumpy here. I recall one doc here suggesting another filler type that lasts longer and has had better results still in testing phase (in Australia, if i recall correctly). Finally, I do have a couple lumps that remain on the shaft closest to the circ scar. These are from the first round. They do seem to be softening some but remain as a bit of lump which is visible in the second photo.
Overall I'm mostly pleased with the results. But, I'm also wondering where to go from here. I, initially, considered PMMA or Bellafill but shied away from it, not really fully convinced it was right for me. I'm kinda wishing I'd just gone for it because, as I understand it, I now have to dissolve the HA before getting PMMA or Bellafill. I suppose I could stay on the HA cycle - getting topped off as I begin to see losses. I'd appreciate any opinions.
Today, I completed a third, smaller round. I also did a p-shot. I felt like, as I'm guessing many of you have felt, I just want a little more uniformity and just a bit more size. Before this round, I was 5.5 Girth. I had a couple uneven spots. It's probably the perfectionist Virgo in me but, wherever I see the smallest of imperfections, I want to fix it. I know, over time, these even out. But, I've felt lower fill areas where it just needed a bit more. So, today I did just that.
I had some gaps, on my left side, near the base, and on my right side, near the midshaft. We added two mills right near the base on the left and another mill on top, again near the base. Another mill was added mid-shaft on the right side. Honestly, I think I can still add a mill or two on the my left side near the base. You can see in the photos, there's still a bit of an indent.
I also decided I wanted to try and fix some of the Turtling by getting some filler in the glans. My thinking is, perhaps with a bigger crown, my "Grower" won't look like a Flaccid, under-Circumcised penis and the skin would better rest against the larger crown. I also felt like my head looked unnaturally small relative to my increased shaft Girth. Two mills were added, using a blunt canula, on the crown. They go in from the outside edge, start the fill at the half way/ center point and draw filler back toward the outside edge. Then, they go to the other side and do the same. Finally, one mill of micro-injections were "fanned" off the crown, using a small needle. This is to reduce the curve from the increased crown size.
One thing that startled me was the amount of blood that practically gushes from the injection points on the crown. Since this area is so sensitive, despite being numbed up, I could feel it - not as bad as the p-shot! (which was six injection points on the shaft that had new squirming just a bit). The other is the amount of bruising. Right now it looks angry. I'm glad I waited and saw what my eventual Girth would be. I'm also glad I've previously seen, thru the bruising of round 1 on the shaft, just how that healed up fine. So, I'm not as alarmed by the dark trauma on the head tonight. I'm definitely icing the glans though!
With the combined three rounds, I've now had 27 mills of filler- between shaft and glans. It sounds like a lot but I am 7.5 and it simply seems to take a lot to get the 3/4 Inch added Girth I wanted. I'm going to let this settle in for awhile and simply enjoy the reaction. But, I've not discounted the idea of adding just a couple more mills to the left side near the base. It's still just looking a bit uneven. I'll update again, in a couple weeks, after I've healed up with additional photos.
Sure. I should have updated this posting months ago.
I have had some unevenness that has resulted in my going in every few months to get two to four syringes. The result has been that I have quite a bit of Girth around the base of the shaft and a bit of a torpedo. I will go on for at least one more touch up. My doc and the PA call me a perfectionist. But, I just want it to look and feel perfect without any gaps in the full. I'll add some photos soon to show the areas where I'm still not 100%. I don't know if it's just my experience, or just my perfectionist personality. But, if you've a longer shaft, it's my opinion you might need a few of these touch ups. So I'd plan for a few of these smaller fills of 2,4 or 6 syringes.
The good news is that I'm nearing 6" around mid shaft and, almost 12 months after starting, I've not noticed any loss of filler material.