TOPIC: Overall review of Alloderm (also 1.5 years post-op status update)

Fellow brothers, I contemplated writing this post because the latest most effective penis enlargement method is PMMA. Hence I was unsure about how helpful my post about alloderm graft surgery would be.

However I thought that it is absolutely necessary that I post this to:
1) Put objective (as much as possible) information about such surgeries out there for everyone to read
2) My experience from 2 alloderm graft surgeries, V-Y lengthening and Hyaluronic Acid widening (temporary) of the glans
3) How bad an infection could get IF you get it
4) How a stitched graft is like in the long run

My penis is considered \"small\" to start with, even when compared with other asian men, photos below will illustrate that. Naturally, the thought of having a \"bigger\" penis is definitely in my mind all the time.

I took a few months off this forum because after doing a lot of research reading up on PMMA, I was so close to getting PMMA widening done in South Korea by Dr Cho. I even booked an appointment in mid-March this year, however I cancelled it at the last minute because having \"what if\" thoughts of having complications freaked me out.

Being unfortunate to have a very bad staph infection after my 2nd alloderm surgery was a very big \"wake-up call\" to me about the risks of invasive penis enlargement surgeries. Unfortunate that I went through it but fortunate in a way to wake me up.

Anyways, without further ado, let me get on to the main objectives of this post.

Alloderm (or Belladerm) surgery is a very invasive procedure where the surgeon will literally cut open your penis, insert the grafts, stitch them to the fascia (correct me if my terminology is wrong here), then stitch up your penis again.

Naturally, the penis will swell up ridiculously after undergoing such an invasive procedure. Wake-ups in the middle of the night due to pain is expected for at least 2 weeks. No showers for 2 weeks IF the wounds heal up properly without infections.

As mentioned, my penis got seriously infected by staph post 2nd alloderm surgery. What is being done: wounds are cut open again AND left OPEN! Everyday, go to the surgeon, be put on an antibiotic drip while he cleans up the pus, which hurts like HELL! Go home, dip my penis in iodine mixture for 10 mins, no showers, end of day. Next day, rinse and repeat for 10 full days before the infection is cleared. Thinking about this now still makes my hair stand. It was that bad.

I inserted some photos of pre-surgery, post 2nd surgery healed up and a recent photo 1.5 years onwards.

Summary of my thoughts:
1) Alloderm or Belladerm surgery: NOT worth it at all. Considering the minimal widening effect, cost and most importantly, risks of infection.
2) V-Y lengthening: at the moment, my gains are around 2cm. But it left a very ugly inverted \"Y\" scar in my pubic region. NOT worth it at all.
3) Hyaluronic Acid enlargement of my glans: My glans circumference increased around 1 cm but this will subside over time due to the temporary nature of Hyaluronic Acid. Worth it or not? Well, it was satisfactory but I won\'t do it again.

I hope that this post will help people considering alloderm or Belladerm surgery to widen their penis. I understand that there are some guys who think that these grafts are so-called \"safer\" than injecting foreign matter such as PMMA into the penis. Well, these grafts are foreign matter as well. If there isn\'t enough vascularity to these grafts, they will die as well. However till now, this surgeon that I went to fortunately has an overall satisfactory rate among his patients. In one of my follow-up visits, there was an old man who underwent alloderm widening surgery with him 15 years ago and he brought his son there for exactly the same procedure (What was on his mind?!!).

Anyway, I hope that this post is helpful in some way.

Pre-surgery - 1


Pre-surgery - 2


Post 2nd alloderm surgery - fully healed up - 1


Post 2nd alloderm surgery - fully healed up - 2


How it looks now after 1.5 years - taken 2016 March 21st

Another important thought that I wish to share with people considering penis enlargement.

Do not expect to be hung like Peter North after such surgeries if your penis is small to begin with. My expectations was too high before these surgeries.

Having such high expectations about gains will only result in bigger disappointments.

I think that was really useful information, thanks.
Has your size reduced since you first had it done?
To be fair I don\'t think you were that small to start with, you looked thicker than I was pre op and I\'m Caucasian.
I was actually considering having this surgery when my scaffs got cancelled so glad I didn\'t go through with it.
Carnt beleive he took his son to get it.

Well at least you have a chick holding your penis for the pics. looks like your getting some action. Good information for the forum.

On another note, I notice that asian guys get pretty pissed/possessive when \"their woman\" date/bang men outside their race. Do you think this can be something to do with thinking about other guys having larger penis size and how asians are perceived to have smaller penises? I\'m sure most of it is just media driven stereotypes. But it seems that there could be an equivalence of white guys feeling insecure when white woman date black guys. I know plenty of white guys think this way, that every black guy has a BBC.. and that\'s why white woman date them.

Anyways just wondering bc I had a few bad experiences when i was with Asian woman and the men do not take to fondly to it. Wondering how common it is.

Thanks and good luck with you peen. i think it looks pretty good in the last pic(no homo)

Reklaw wrote: I think that was really useful information, thanks. Has your size reduced since you first had it done? To be fair I don\'t think you were that small to start with, you looked thicker than I was pre op and I\'m Caucasian. I was actually considering having this surgery when my scaffs got cancelled so glad I didn\'t go through with it. Carnt beleive he took his son to get it.

Yes, my Girth reduced by 0.3\" (1 cm) post 6 months from 2nd surgery recovery and has been stable ever since, 5.3\" to 5.0\" now. But this is only after 2 surgeries, which was too scary an experience to go through.

Yeah it was unbelievable that old bloke brought his son to get butchered for this surgery.

neverendingjourney wrote: Well at least you have a chick holding your penis for the pics. looks like your getting some action. Good information for the forum.

On another note, I notice that asian guys get pretty pissed/possessive when \"their woman\" date/bang men outside their race. Do you think this can be something to do with thinking about other guys having larger penis size and how asians are perceived to have smaller penises? I\'m sure most of it is just media driven stereotypes. But it seems that there could be an equivalence of white guys feeling insecure when white woman date black guys. I know plenty of white guys think this way, that every black guy has a BBC.. and that\'s why white woman date them.

Anyways just wondering bc I had a few bad experiences when i was with Asian woman and the men do not take to fondly to it. Wondering how common it is.

Thanks and good luck with you peen. i think it looks pretty good in the last pic(no homo)

Yeah I\'m quite fortunate to get action pretty much most of the time.

With regards to asian guys who get pissed/ possessive when asian girls bang men of other races, interestingly, me and my asian pals here in Taiwan never felt that way before.

In fact, us asian guys with our white/ black bros here go out hunting local Taiwanese girls together and urge each other haha.

Thanks for your compliments. That last pic was taken by the chick who held my Dick. She said that my size was \"thicker than average\" haha.

Contemplating about PMMA for a while, but with my 2 alloderm grafts inside my penis, I\'m afraid of complications down the road.

I heard that Taiwan was pretty cool in that regard, in comparison to Koreans. I have been spat at when holding hands with a Korean girl(especially if they\'re hot) and girls I\'m with have been verbally abused. Luckily it\'s happening less these days but I always wonder if having statistically the smallest penis on earth (Korean according to studies) had something to do with this insecurity. Anyways the way Korean eat these day I\'m sure there size will catch up because they sure as hell are getting taller.

Don\'t do it - the PMMA will greatly increase the chances of the graft loosing blood supply from the whole top layer that is currently in contact with your skin. If it dies on you - my dermal graft did after 15 years, getting it out is no small trick plus with the added complication of PMMA, you are buying yourself a lot of possible problems. It would have to come out too - I currently have about 25cc\'s of HA in the shaft - I have never heard many positive results about the glans - it is too soon to tell though as I am still getting used to it.

When Dr Kim was injecting me he said \"you will never have nice Korean girl again\" which I found a bit odd, maybe growing up he witnessed Korean women going off with US soldiers, who knows

hunkydory wrote: Don\'t do it - the PMMA will greatly increase the chances of the graft loosing blood supply from the whole top layer that is currently in contact with your skin. If it dies on you - my dermal graft did after 15 years, getting it out is no small trick plus with the added complication of PMMA, you are buying yourself a lot of possible problems. It would have to come out too - I currently have about 25cc\'s of HA in the shaft - I have never heard many positive results about the glans - it is too soon to tell though as I am still getting used to it.

Thanks hunkydory for the advice! Any likelihood of risks down the road will definitely put me off a procedure, no matter how effect it might seem at first.

Cheers

neverendingjourney wrote: I heard that Taiwan was pretty cool in that regard, in comparison to Koreans. I have been spat at when holding hands with a Korean girl(especially if they\'re hot) and girls I\'m with have been verbally abused. Luckily it\'s happening less these days but I always wonder if having statistically the smallest penis on earth (Korean according to studies) had something to do with this insecurity. Anyways the way Korean eat these day I\'m sure there size will catch up because they sure as hell are getting taller.

That sucks, sorry that it happened to you. Those guys are not representative of all Asian men in general. Sounds like a bunch of insecure low esteemed guys who did that. To us (at least my circle of mates), a bro is a bro, if you\'re cool, doesn\'t matter where you\'re from.

What doc did you use

freakyd187 wrote: What doc did you use

Dr Jerry Lee in Taipei City. However I won\'t post the link because I don\'t recommend this surgery at all, high cost & risks with low gains.