TOPIC: AstroD's debriefing

Bro!! It looks so good in that first photo!! The second one is so-so like you said. I\'d just wait it out and see what the outcome looks like after 6 months. You got your gains completely out of the way. Maybe just another round of 10% as touch up or micro-droplets in areas your not satisfied with. Even with the chodeish Flaccid, I still think you came out way on top. If I could go in and have my results be exactly like yours, I would.

thank you for posting updated photos, i have been following your thread and was interested to see how your initial shape resolved.

i have to say, it looks GREAT in that first pic. seriously that is a nice looking Cock. the other pictures, in my opinion, look like a \'fat Cock thats Flaccid\' and not abnormal. i have seen a lot of cocks and i can assure you, there is no \'normal\' or \'abnormal\' anyway (well, ok, except for those extreme silicone guys but they are aiming for weird !) there is a staggering range of shape, size and texture.

obviously your Cock is different to how it was but that was the aim. its a kind of different shape from before, and considerably more bulky, but you are the only one that knows that.

looks great, enjoy it, try not to overthink how different it is from before.

Not that I have seen a lot of penises, but here on pb I have. The flacid one looks like a fat flacid Cock.

Once it expands it looks like a huge fucking Cock. Personally I wouldn\'t worry about it.

With the ed issues, I wouldn\'t pump for a while either. I am down to 2 times a week, 10 minutes in the

tube at 5hg, shake and rolling/massage for 1 minute then 5 minute rest, then repeat 2 more times.


when I was doing daily I was having eq issues and had a hard time getting erections and on thunders and

a few other sites eq and ed issues were reported from pumpers that pumped daily. Food for thought

maybe do some research......

Ok, thanks for the encouragement guys, and I\'ll take your word for it.

It\'s true, I think too much and mind fuck myself into a wet noodle sometimes.

I\'m glad there\'s this support group here.

I\'m going to wait about 6 months and then re-evaluate to see if I want another round in July sometime. I\'ll continue to post photos at certain times as updates.

also, pumping and ED - there\'s a direct connection between those two. in my experience, the more i pumped, the worse the ED became, to the point where basically i wasnt getting hard without a cockring and even then it wasnt staying hard. thats when i cut down on pumping.

the issue resolves itself, takes some weeks of completely stopping pumping though. then go back to it with short sessions.

I was on CPW\'s thread and mentioned this there, but wanted to update my thread here.

I\'ve stopped pumping, stopped using the ESL40, stopped taking Cialis 5mg daily, and even stopped all the supplements that I was taking for more T levels and reducing estrogen and other supps, like ginseng, zinc, L-arginine, L-lysine, et cetera.

I\'ve noticed that my Erection quality has gotten better. Also, while Erect, the PMMA seems to have stimulated enough collagen to improve the look of my Girth.

However, while Flaccid, although somewhat better than my starting pic, it still looks rather smallish. I\'ve not measured so that I don\'t disappoint myself too much, but I\'ve decided to get rd. 2 either in June or July.

I\'ve read here that if one would like up to 1.5\" increase in Girth, maybe it would take 3 rounds. I will have to see after rd.2 if I would need that.

If I do rd 2, then rd 3 (if there is one), will have to be a Christmas present to myself. I think I will not do much more in 2017. I\'m fucked on length so I don\'t want my penis to look too mis proportioned at 6.5\" Erect.

I\'ll post stats and pics before I do rd 2 so you guys can see how rd 1 finalized itself after a few months post treatment.

@AstroD:

I think 1.5\" increase in Girth is achievable in three rounds but not definite. Also, some folks have a round in which nothing happens. No increase.

What\'s amazing to me is how you can wait for 6 months. I read that it\'s better to do it that way but I couldn\'t help myself. I went for round 2 after 11 weeks. Now I\'m coming up on 10 weeks post round 2 and I\'m thinking \"Maybe one more round soon...\" I\'m going to try to hold off for a bit. 6 months? Not sure I can last that long. haha

Good luck

CPW

I hear \'ya! If I could do it now, I would, but funds and timing are not aligned.

I\'m taking a trip soon and will be meeting up with an old flame and I can\'t be all swollen up at that time neither. It has to wait when I\'m between relationships, for proper healing time.

Just to reiterate, CPW, your rd 1 gave you .5 and rd 2 gave you another .5, am I correct? That is a total of 1.0\" Girth. I was 4.5\" Flaccid, so if that\'s the same with me, I\'ll \"only\" be 5.5\". That is unacceptable. My base was 7\" five days after surgery, and the shaft was 6.5\". That looked perfect for my length, and that is my goal.

Time to save up.

PS: If my date decides she can\'t meet up for whatever reason, I just may schedule it sooner. Now I\'m excited again! I can get a signature loan.

@AstroD:

Your Flaccid starting at 4.5\" could get to 6\" in two rounds.

My Flaccid went from 4\" to 5.5\" (1.5\" increase) and my MSEG went from 5.5\" to 6.5\" (1\" increase).

Girth Starting Post PostSize Point Rd 1 Rd 2 (6.5 weeks)FG 4.0\" 5.0\" 5.5-6.0\"EG at glans 5.5\" 6.0\"MSEG 5.5\" 6.0\" 6.5\"BEG 6.0\" 6.5\" 7.0\"
I\'m thinking that I\'d like to eventually get to an MSEG of 6.75\".

Good luck with your old flame. Let us know how she reacts to your bigger penis.

CPW

Thanks for a great and informative thread AstroD! Just one and a half month til I start my adventure.

AstroD wrote: I received Metacrill which was produced in 5/2015 and expires in 5/2016. They used 22cc of 30% for the whole shlong!

This worried me a bit. I will have my first procedure in april and feel worried if they gonna use the same product, right before it expires. Hopefully I get something newer, I dont want to risk lower gains because the product is \"old\".

Maybe I\'ll go for Linnea then, if they have it when Im there...

Btw: Have you concluded with how big your gains have been? 0.5 or more?

Sorry for not replying sooner. I never get notified when threads get posted into for some reason, even if I checked that option in my control panel.

I think the consensus here is correct that one can expect roughly about .5\" increase +/- a few miliimeters. It seems that CPW\'s body doesn\'t resorb the product as much as some others. I\'d sure like to get his gains.

@AstroD:

Erect:
I basically achieved 0.5\" per round Erect (MSEG and BEG) so it falls within the expected. But there are instances where folks got no increase in a later round. That would suck for sure for sure.

Flaccid:
Flaccid is harder to know. Why? Because I was one of the dumb asses who never measured himself. When I signed up for round 1 PMMA they asked to measure and then I measured my Flaccid for the first time. I measure it (once) and it\'s my starting point.

Thing is now I measure my Flaccid all the time and I know realize my Flaccid changes a lot. It basically is between 5.5\"x5.5\" to 6.0\"x6.0\".

So did my Flaccid vary prior to PMMA surgery? Surely it did. I don\'t know how much tho. What I do know is that I hated public showers. So it always seemed small to me. Truthfully, I tried to ignore it - like it didn\'t matter to me.... but it did. Last thing I wanted to do is measure the little fucker.

Well I recently measured my Flaccid and the length seems to want to hold at 4\" (1\" longer than original).

The FG is unfortunately public shower shame thin. It started at about 4.5\", then was 6.25 or so after PMMA, but has resorbed to a paltry 4.75 or 5.0 if I don\'t squeeze the tape too hard. It looks oh so small again.

So, man, I\'ve been thinking about doing a second round sooner than later. I put this in another thread that I believe you started, CPW, about timing the second round. Restoration said he thinks waiting 9-12 weeks is ok, but anything later might mature the product so much that the second batch may not assimilate with it.
Sounds like a reasonable hypothesis. But others have said to wait 6mos. Others, way sooner with no ill effects.

If I miss the sooner time frame, I will have to wait until June. My old flame and I are getting together in May. I could do it in March or April and still be ok I think.

So many options. I need to think about it some more.

Another thing to report is that since I\'ve stopped viewing porn, my EQ is better and I get perpetuals sometimes during the day! I still think that if I want to get a good fuck in, I\'ll have to take a 100mg Viagra to make sure I keep it up, but that\'s ok.

I agree that the Flaccid just looks like a fat Flaccid. I think you are good, man!

Fellas, stop porn NOW!

I used to view porn all the time and jerk off to it, not having to need a girl to get off. But if I ever met one intermittently, I was in big trouble. Limp Dick all the way. Couldn\'t get it up, even by self stimulation. Then I would try to get it up at home by myself. No way, unless porn was in front of me.

I stopped viewing porn a few months ago. This morning, I turned on my PC and while it was booting up, I did a couple of manual stretched and oila, I got a boner!

Feels good seeing that it can do that again without smut on the screen. So I ran to get my tailor\'s tape and here\'s what I have Erect:

base Erect Girth BEG 6.5\"
mid shaft Erect Girth MSEG 6.0\"
glans Erect Girth GEG 5.5\"
bone pressed Erect length BPEL 6.5\"

So this is 6 weeks after round 1 with 22cc of 30% Metacril and much Turtling.

It\'s a good improvement from original, no wonder she still gets that look when I ease it in. But to me, it\'s still small. I would like to get to 7\" base, 6.5-7.0\" at mid shaft, and 6.0-6.5 at glans, then I will be satisfied, and so will she. I know she can take more. She has told me that length isn\'t as important to a gal as Girth is. She said women like to feel \"filled\" and stretched a little. So...

I called Diana and made an appointment for round 2 on the Ides of March! CHL, you were right, I couldn\'t wait. Restoration, your hypothesis of PMMA maturation and delamination (sic) if too long a wait time in between had me thinking. CPW, I\'m catching up to you!

I know my Dick looks good now as per photo review and stats, but it\'s just not enough for me. I\'m still dysmorphic when I look in the mirror. And although my girl did say that my Cock was big and impressive, I haven\'t heard her moan like she did 5 days after round 1 when it was actually big and impressive. I think if I would have waited longer until the swelling went down, and she saw it as it is now, I maybe would be ok with it. But alas, the Dick came out of the bag, and I KNOW what the comments will be if it\'s bigger. Heck, I read that someone is going for rd.4 soon. Well, more power to him. I just need a little more too.

Ok, just trying to justify my decision since perhaps I\'ll get a little flamed here, but that\'s why we\'re here in the first place, to achieve a bigger Dick from whence we were small.

BTW, Flaccid is a completely different story. Wet noodle...