TOPIC: Lig cut and FFT

Hi all,

I\'m new here, and after being an observer for a while I have decided to post my story.

Just over two weeks ago I had my lig cut and FFT in London at the London Andrology Institute. My reason for this - I was always on the smaller end, I wanted a longer Flaccid hang and am now starting my post op physiotherapy hopefully to cement some further Flaccid and Erect gains.

I am still very swollen so cannot tell much now, although I don\'t seem to be very fond of the FFT at this stage - the fat fluctuates from being hard and then soft and it does not look natural, the Dr has reassured me it will look better and final results will come in 2 months or so and in the meantime I should carry on with physiotherapy everyday. No V/Y incision was made and the scar seems to be healing well - about an Inch on the penis base. Even at this time it is barely visible unless you take a very close look.

I used to turtle badly, pre op all you could see was the head of my penis and my misery was shaped around this. Erect I was 4 inches and after some manual PE exercises I saw that my erections were harder and gained 0.4 inches EL. Nevertheless I had enough and went down the surgery route.

My questions - those who have had their lig cut, have you made any EL gains? What kind of stretching/physiotherapy routine did you follow?

I am doing manual stretching and will be using the phallosen forte as I feel it is the best device to get the hours in.

PS - post surgery my stats were 3.5 Inch Flaccid length and 5 inches stretched length. Pre op I was 1.5 Inch Flaccid and 4 inches stretched. Girth was 4.5 inches pre op Erect, post op it was 6 inches Flaccid although I understand this won\'t be the final result. Right now my stretched length has retracted and I have been told that this is normal and will be regained after physiotherapy.

I\'m thinking it may have been better to get the lig cut on it\'s own and then concentrate on stretching for length.

Other points - there is hair on the shaft now, I plan to get laser done after it has healed properly.

I had my ligs cut a long time ago. I gained about an 1\" in Flaccid length right away and nothing in Erect. I stretched and hung daily for almost 2 years, maybe a year and a half and I got to 7.25\" Erect from my starting length of 6\" Erect. When I don\'t stretch it stays at 7\". If I stretch the rest comes back really quickly.

But I really had to do it every day for a couple of hours and would wear it under my cloths. I used the grip almost exclusively. I think I put in about 4-6 hours a day for at least a year and a half. I got bored with it and was happy with what I had, which is why I stopped.

I did a mix of heavy Hanging and constant less heavy stretching using the grip. Good luck with your results. Nothing is as it will be this soon after the surgery. The hardness is probably your body reacting to the foreign mass. Let it do it\'s thing and don\'t stress.

Anman, since you are London based, why did you choose the LAI? I am not criticising your decision, just curious: surely you must know that the Viel brothers at LCAS in London have done thousands of penis enlargement procedures for more than ten years and they are THE authority on FFT.

supa wrote: Anman, since you are London based, why did you choose the LAI? I am not criticising your decision, just curious: surely you must know that the Viel brothers at LCAS in London have done thousands of penis enlargement procedures for more than ten years and they are THE authority on FFT.

I do know about the Viel brothers, I actually spoke to a few surgeons before choosing LAI. I wanted to avoid VY incision with Viel. The Dr at LAI has been brilliant so far (regular follow ups and emails) and their practice only focuses and specialises in andrology and penile augmentation. I felt comfortable with LAI and everything was explained clearly to me - they even suggested I speak with other practices and surgeons and find out about their techniques etc.

hunkydory wrote: I had my ligs cut a long time ago. I gained about an 1\" in Flaccid length right away and nothing in Erect. I stretched and hung daily for almost 2 years, maybe a year and a half and I got to 7.25\" Erect from my starting length of 6\" Erect. When I don\'t stretch it stays at 7\". If I stretch the rest comes back really quickly.

But I really had to do it every day for a couple of hours and would wear it under my cloths. I used the grip almost exclusively. I think I put in about 4-6 hours a day for at least a year and a half. I got bored with it and was happy with what I had, which is why I stopped.

I did a mix of heavy Hanging and constant less heavy stretching using the grip. Good luck with your results. Nothing is as it will be this soon after the surgery. The hardness is probably your body reacting to the foreign mass. Let it do it\'s thing and don\'t stress.

Thank you, I\'ve been advised that the final result comes down to 50% surgery and 50% physiotherapy and agreed it is time consuming.

Post some pics man...

Greenhorn wrote: Post some pics man...

Hey green Horn, this is like account number what??? Are you keeping track?

Update - into week 5 post op, swelling has gone down a lot and the incision is healing very well, I am pleased with my Flaccid results. As expected the fat has started reabsorbtion - still thick enough to not fit into a toilet roll. I am on day 3 of proper physio as I had to stop to deal with an infection which opened my incision line - traumatic experience, the Dr flew in from his holiday to treat me. I am now stretching and extending 3/4 hours a day, retraction has improved slightly but I want to cement some EL gains whilst the ligament is healing. I should also note that I had a silicone spacer inserted. My Erection angle still points upwards and is improving everyday - used to point straight ahead at the end of week 4.

A question - I still have prominent swelling and edmema/fluid build up on the Circumcision scar and the area behind the penis head, I have been advised this will subside with time but wondered if anyone has dealt with this and any tips to reduce it? I feel as though it is constraining some length when Erect.

Compression is the best thing for swelling in my experience.

Cut a 1\" wide strip of this and wrap it snugly 2 or 3 times around the area of fluid build up.

www.wilko.com/first-aid/pink-cohesive-bandage/invt/0351223

I was also told stay off your feet as much as possible for the first week - stay horizontal as much as you can.

hunkydory wrote: I was also told stay off your feet as much as possible for the first week - stay horizontal as much as you can.

So all he needs is a time machine and the problem will be solved.

hoddle10 wrote: Compression is the best thing for swelling in my experience.

Cut a 1\" wide strip of this and wrap it snugly 2 or 3 times around the area of fluid build up.

www.wilko.com/first-aid/pink-cohesive-bandage/invt/0351223

Thanks for the tip, I had a post op consultation today - the cone like appearance of the penis in the erect state at this time is really bothering me. The circumcision scar appears to be swollen and I\'ve been told this is a mixture of edema and fat and will diminish over the course of a couple of months. I am not happy with the FFT at this stage, the lengethening is good provided I get my retracted length back at least. Would really appreciate the input of anyone who has experienced or dealt with this and what I can expect. I am massaging and stretching daily - what I\'ve been advised to do by the Dr who also assured me that I should not make any judgement at this time.

It\'s still too early to judge your results. Wait until at least the 3 month mark before judging anything. You are still swollen and can expect that to go down and for some fat to reabsorb in the coming weeks.

Thanks for posting the photo, but would you mind sharing a better photo or 2? We don\'t see that many FFT results, especially during the healing phase. We quite often get guys coming along expressing concern during the first few months post op, so it would be really useful for them to have some sort of frame of reference. But please don\'t feel pressured to do so or anything like that, as I know sharing photos can be daunting.

any updates anman?

I think it looks really natural and very good - what does that shaft look like? I\'d be happy and your penis contracts for at least 6 weeks after a procedure like that - let it. It will come back quickly with Hanging or stretching.