TOPIC: My Elist Implant experience so far

I just had surgery done last Friday 04-12-2013, DR. Elist Implant, and I\'m really worried right now. My Balls are huge, and black (I\'m white). My penis looks deformed as shit, and I wish I could I have seen these threads earlier!! I was 6.5inches Erect in length, and 5.5 in Girth, and now i\'m afraid I lose most of it, I know it hasn\'t even been a week yet, but I was wondering if anyone knows anyone near Chicago that can remove the implant for cheap, dr elist said he\'ll remove it for $2500 but I don\'t have that much money right now, fuck my life ,

harleyrider wrote: I am contemplating a PE surgery by Dr. Elist, but am alarmed by what I am reading in these posts? Although I am new to the site, it appears that there are several that are not in favor of the implant and that some have had some success with the implant. In a nutshell, has this surgery worked for anyone? Does anyone know if the surgery or implant has improved since 2011 when several of the authors of this site had their implants removed?

I personally do not know of one successful implant to date . The implant horror stories you read here are but a drop in the bucket in the good doctors continuing campaign of lies, carnage and misery.

Ditto everything MM said. Also, heed my warning about Kenalog shots (any steroids, for that matter) causing holes in your skin. Dr. Solomon looked stunned that Dr. Elist administers such shots, after which he explained to me what happens to the skin. There is a reason why you can\'t find a Danish doctor who will give you those shots: they are too ethical, and Dr. Elist has no ethical constraints.

@Messageman , Brother I have to be positive, I have no other choise and hoping for the best. I needed to be big, this is the best thing ever happend to me. I would fight my way through qandahar afganistan to reach and complete this journey.
You can say Elist lie this bad that I dont care about Dr Elist. I have an experienced doctor with best solution in the market and yes he have many fails.
But I ask, since I did my implant november 2012 only one new implantee came here, thechosenone. Do you really think that Elist did only 2 surgeries in the last 5 months ????????
Then he wouldnt be able to pay his own salary, its only 22.00o usd. Dont you think he did many more just to pay his office expenses.
There are success stories and I spoke with 2 random Guys and they had it for years.

@bostonman many Guys here have done Kenalog elist and none elist patients, we have never heared about bad cases, beside the Danish doctors didnt knew where to inject the rules here are much strick. We no PE surgeon in denmark at all.
They keep getting then in jail, we had PMMA long before you Guys the doctors name was J'rgen ege and he did disastors with patients and the media covered him totally, he ended up in jail. The good thing in this country we Lock bad doctors away.
We dont allow doctors to play with peoples Health. and I hope FDA approval would be the same. at least for the implant not the prcedure. Denmark had fluid silicone injections long before you Guys and made it illegal allmost.

you Guys recommend me a good place to stay in LA ? I was thinking of santa Monica, dont want that wilshire crest hotel, its cheap but boaring area.

@TheDane: I understand your need to be positive, and to make the best of your situation. It\'s been my experience (much as it is now your experience) that the guys on this board are rooting for everybody with their respective decision, no matter how opposed they may be to that decision. That being said, it\'s counter-productive to muddy the waters about this product (especially where it can cloud the judgment of potential implantees).

Make no mistake, I am not accusing you of being a shill. However, I believe your argument (that the lack of new people complaining on this board suggests the implant is \"the best product in the market\") has been previously posed by shills (MM, Hoddle, SO, moderators, please correct me if I\'m wrong). There are plenty of reasons why implantees will have not documented their case here:

1. This forum is passionate about exposing shills of Dr. Elist, which occasionally can be felt as hostility to men considering having the implant. I was accused of shilling in the beginning of my experience, and not every man wants to go through that BS (no matter how understandable it is, given the extent of lies propagated by Elist\'s shills).
2. Not every man is brave enough to share such psychologically delicate experiences.
3. Not every man has the desire to initiate or keep up with the documentation process.
4. Not every man is resourceful enough to have come across this board.
5. Not every man is interested in entertaining contrary opinions about such a personal decision that may be dear to their .

Yes, you made a decision and the jury is still out regarding its outcome. Nobody is judging you for having made the decision. Everybody IS judging the product, which has been removed by all implantees having faithfully and comprehensively documented their situation here. While understanding how you feel about the implant with it currently in your penis, I am not going to mince words about this product: it is not sustainable nor permanent, nor is it anything close to being the best product in the market. It is as Dr. Solomon called it: a temporary silicon splint. It ultimately breaks down in some fashion that makes it impossible to keep inside the penis. Edges poke out, sensation is permanently lost, length is temporarily or permanently lost. Perhaps these things won\'t happen to you (I truly hope they won\'t), but in judging by its history in this forum (one of the most honest forums out there in reaction to Elist\'s dishonesty) it is not a successful product.

Per your statement about Kenalog, I (for one) will take Dr. Solomon\'s medical opinion over Elist\'s any day of the week, and I agree with your assessment that we haven\'t had any commentary regarding the long term effects of such steroids as Kenalog. The lack of such commentary in no way refutes Dr. Solomon\'s medical opinion, and I posed it as an open question for those who HAVE had Kenalog shots. Regardless, it\'s a shame that you have to continue to incur additional costs for this implant by flying out to LA for a shot.

I support your endeavor to stay positive, but let\'s not muddy the waters for justificatory purposes. Feel free to check out my threads when I was documenting my progress with the implant. I was transparent about as many details as possible, celebratory for the brief period in time when the implant gave me what I wanted and ultimately unforgiving for all the ways that the product and its peddler (Dr. Elist) repeatedly failed me.

Bostonman, I wasnt muddy the Water, I was just telling my openion. I love messageman, he is a very helpfull wice man.

I dont Picture the implant as heaven, all you say is true, but it variouse from person to person, and I went through alot of pain to heal. I dont even know how it ends, but I am enjoying it for the moment.
And I dont really care about being called or thoughed as an Elist shill, admins can Skype with me anytime and can see my penis over webcam to be sure. \" Admins only Guys\"

I am documenting, so desperate Guys in truble can read about my stages and use my experience to help them self.
If you read my thread from the begining you would know what I went through to get here, not knowing to end where. But I am hoping to end good.
About Kenalog, I think I take the risk, I need to release the implant so the mesh moves forward during erictions, its still tight.
About the Money issue, yes a normal guy WHO cant afford to remove the implant right away shouldnt do it. I can afford it, as I got my own small good Company.
Brother, I had it all, expect a normal penis. Now I got it all + big penis. lol hoping to end up with some kind of penis loool, your failed stories scares me alot.

I love you Guys, your stories helped me alot and I love this board because it contain helpfull loving Guys and good knowledge.

Update.

Just came back from LA.
I visited Dr Elist and he checked everything and it was good. He didnt give me any Kenalog shots because the stuck is so Little so there is no need to put Chemicals in my body as he adviced. He showed me some excersizes that will help losen the implant from the insertion area. During he was showing me the excersizes it got a Little released and felt strange, and he was a bit rough with it, I do it much softer. He also said that the mesh is as it should be and not tight.

Because of the Jetlag I was alone with the pc lol and the ejaculation happend normal today. I have no idea if it continues normal, let us see the coming days.

wasted 4 days on the trip and I didnt get anything out of it than comfort that all is good and I got to see santa Monica. Otherwise the ticket would cost 5.000 usd if the trip is shorter by British Airline.
On the way to LA I flew on AA lines but booked at BA and I tell you dear Americans your Airlines sucks compaired with the Europeans.
You are not allowed to smoke a cigaret unless you are a mile away from restaurants and you live in a country that made so many rules, that its almost dictatorship. How can you stand it, I have no idea.
Looking forward to the American men make a revolution against all this madness of rules.

TheDane wrote: Update.

Just came back from LA.
I visited Dr Elist and he checked everything and it was good. He didnt give me any Kenalog shots because the stuck is so Little so there is no need to put Chemicals in my body as he adviced. He showed me some excersizes that will help losen the implant from the insertion area. During he was showing me the excersizes it got a Little released and felt strange, and he was a bit rough with it, I do it much softer. He also said that the mesh is as it should be and not tight.

Because of the Jetlag I was alone with the pc lol and the ejaculation happend normal today. I have no idea if it continues normal, let us see the coming days.

wasted 4 days on the trip and I didnt get anything out of it than comfort that all is good and I got to see santa Monica. Otherwise the ticket would cost 5.000 usd if the trip is shorter by British Airline.
On the way to LA I flew on AA lines but booked at BA and I tell you dear Americans your Airlines sucks compaired with the Europeans.
You are not allowed to smoke a cigaret unless you are a mile away from restaurants and you live in a country that made so many rules, that its almost dictatorship. How can you stand it, I have no idea.
Looking forward to the American men make a revolution against all this madness of rules.

Obviously this is very state and even county dependent, but I know what you mean. I was staying in a town near Seattle where you have to pick up a yellow flag and wave it as you cross the road to make traffic more aware you are there! In some stores they have signs asking their customers not to use bad language when in the store.

Generally speaking America gets an unfair wrap and it\'s actually a really great place, but the petty rules they have are crazy.

America is great no doubt. But still , To many rules for my taste. I guess they have to make the rules because of the big variouse in poluation and the education standard level is very high diffrence between layers.
Yes we almost have socialisme in EU but thank god the element education system is still good.

Update

Sweet life, all good, still stuck at top and I dont do the excersizes because the stuckness is minimal and dont really disturb or hurt but it gives curvature during erictions, no big deal its Works fine.
Looking forward to messaure it the 27 may then its 6 months post surg.

Are you saying the skin is stuck? It\'s hard to understand your exact problem without seeing photos. But I\'m sure it must be fixable. I still can\'t believe you flew all the way to LA for a Kenalog shot!

No it Means the implant top is stuck to the insertion area by some scartissue, its minimal but its preventing the implant from moving free. Its an implantee issue hoddle they all know what I am talking about.
I flew to LA because I wanted to do all I can do so it succeed, dont want to blame my self for anything if it fails. so important is this for me. I would fly Again to any place and go through any effort I can do to keep my monster.
hoddle pm me and I can show you over Skype if you like.

Update

I had eriction this morning and thoughed let me messure it..... GOD DAMN IT. I have lost 2 cm length.
My stat now is : 13 cm el and 13 cm eg midshaft Girth and 16 cm base Girth.
My penis looks small ericted because the penile skin only cover 75% of the penis and the remaining is skin pulled from pubic area, It feels much bigger because of Girth and the fantastic flacid look.

Ok it sucks loosing 2 cm EL but it is still worth it, And I hope when the implant is released from insertion area it give me more length... Its still stuck.
GOD DAMN IT 2 cm........

Don\'t worry too much about the loss of length initially with the implant. I had the implant for a total of 5 months. Initially I lost about an Inch of Erect length, but by the 5th month my penis had started to reclaim the length back. As you know, I am no fan of Dr. Elist, but there is some truth in that you haven\'t necessarily lost that length for good.
I am really rooting for you Dane. I absolutely know how you feel about wanting to keep that implant in.
I look forward to your updates, MM

Thanks messageman

I am also hoping it will gain some length because it has been gaining. Thats why I didnt messure it the last 6 months until I felt it was same length as before, but it wasnt. Looking at it today it is longer than 4-5 months ago but still loss of 2 cm.
Well let us see what the future brings