TOPIC: Any Given Sunday

I have no idea how many CC\'s you\'ll require. Dr C will be the best judge of that. I\'d imagine you\'ll be a candidate for quite a lot though, maybe around 25cc.

You don\'t want to request a fuller shaft, that dwarfs the head in my opinion, as this is fraught with risk. The reason for this is that you have extra shaft skin, which causes it to bunch just before the head. If Dr C tries to inject in there, the result will be very unpredictable. My guess is that you\'ll end up with a wrinkly ridge area.

You are lucky in that your circ line is low and you have lots of shaft skin that goes right up close to the head. Therefore you don\'t need to risk having PMMA injected above the circ line, so don\'t do it. I\'d take photos with you and be very clear with Dr C about this. Most guys don\'t have the luxury of shaft skin like your, so have to have PMMA injected above the circ line and about half end up with some aesthetic issues.

As for concentration, I\'d ask for 10% to create a slight taper up to the circ line and 10% at the base. For the main part, I\'m not sure what to recommend. 20% sometimes looks a little lumpy to me, but I suspect this would be less noticeable in your case. 30% seems harder to predict and we\'ve seen very little in terms of photographic evidence. Personally I\'d ask for 10% all over and accept I\'ll probably have to go back for more. In terms of PE procedures it\' still cheap, even with flights and accommodation. Two trips to Dr C are still probably similar in price to FFT or half the cost of Belloderm or the Elist implant. Putting finances and convenience ahead of risk is a bit crazy in my opinion. So what if you only gain 0.25\" in round 1. You can go back in a couple of months with a much better idea of how your penis reacts to PMMA and have a second treatment with a higher concentration. I know most people advocate going big first round and then have a touch up to fix any problems if needed, but based on the results I\'ve seen over the last couple of years, it seems that first round problems can actually be very tough, or impossible to fix.

The way I see it, is if you are going to do this, accept it\'s a process rather than a one off procedure. If you can\'t afford that, then save up and wait.

For example, Dr C may well recommend injecting above the circ line and putting 30% at the base. That is what he seems to do in general. But looking at previous results, there is every chance you will end up with some aesthetic issues that will mean a second round anyway. So why not get him to inject 10% at the base and non above the circ line, as the chances of needing to go back aren\'t going to be any higher. And if you do need to go back, it\'s way easier for him to add at the base and circ line, than it is for him to try and correct over filling, ridges, lumps and the ring.

Has anyone had more than .25\" gain with 10%?

I was thinking 20% and taper with 10%. Money isn\'t an issue with me, I just want results. I would be very dissapointed with a .25\" gain. I would feel cheated. I do however, accept that I may in fact need a round 2. I would just rather it be for a touch up. I like the idea of not going past the circ scar and see what you mean by having enough shaft skin. From what I understand you believe I\'ll just enhance my natural look and won\'t be able to get the look I\'m after? I would be okay with that as long as I\'m 6.5\" or better.

thehulk wrote: Has anyone had more than .25\" gain with 10%? I was thinking 20% and taper with 10%. Money isn\'t an issue with me, I just want results. I would be very dissapointed with a .25\" gain. I would feel cheated. I do however, accept that I may in fact need a round 2. I would just rather it be for a touch up. I like the idea of not going past the circ scar and see what you mean by having enough shaft skin. From what I understand you believe I\'ll just enhance my natural look and won\'t be able to get the look I\'m after? I would be okay with that as long as I\'m 6.5\" or better.

Most people gain more than 0.25\" with 10%. If you read though progress reports, you\'ll see 10% is often virtually useless for adding size in second or third rounds. This has tainted the reputation of 10% in general among our members. But if you compare 10% first round gains, with other concentrations, the difference is pretty minimal. Many of the guys using 30% for round 1 have seen very small gains, but for some reason no one mentions this, when suggesting 10% yields poor results.

But even if you do gain just 0.25\" in round 1, don\'t view it as being cheated. It\'s your choice and if you use the progress reports here to inform yourself, I\'d say it\'s the sensible choice and won\'t mean you get less value for money. The chances are you will need a round 2 with a higher concentration than 10% anyway. This is based on the results we\'ve seen here for 2 years. I can think of very few people who haven\'t had or plan to have a second round when using higher concentrations. Don\'t ignore the evidence we have here. So with this in mind, why not accept you\'ll need 2 rounds and aim for a total of say 0.6\" gain. Use the first round to see who your penis tolerates the PMMA and expect a gain of around 0.4\". Then your second round can be much more predictable and you can easily sort out any aesthetic issues and add another 0.2\"-0.4\".

Here is a list of our members that received 10% for round 1 and their results:

Pmmaalltheway 16cc ' 0.6
Eqstudent 20cc ' 0.75Rondo 21cc ' 0.4JAM 19cc ' 0.6Edupd 15cc ' 0.275Zayne 20cc ' 0.6Mikehok 17cc ' 0.5Andy 20cc ' 0.6Austin Peter 15cc ' 0.75Cosminc 14cc ' 0.75Pr2005 18cc ' 0.4Bernardil 17cc ' 0.5Jacko 19cc ' 0.75Mustgetbigger ' 20cc ' 0.5ZOL ' 18cc ' 0.5CHL 19cc ' 0.375Imbignow 23cc ' 0.2
There are others who had 10% round 1, but I can\'t find their stats.

The average gain of the 17 members above is 0.53\"

Wow, those numbers are compelling and impressive. 10% seems like it could work for me. I really appreciate those statistics, I\'ve read just about every progress report but I can\'t remember all the details, just that the success rate is appealing for PMMA, so much that I\'m already scheduled.

I think you have the right idea and I\'ll talk to Dr.C and hopefully we can come to a reasonable solution. You say bring pictures, of myself or my ideal outcome?

If you compare your penis, with GSX\'s you\'ll see why you have a massive advantage.

I\'ve drawn black lines where your circ lines are and where you pubic skin joins the shaft skin. These are the 2 areas where the vast majority of aesthetic issues, such as the ring and ridges occur.

If you look GSX, he has a much smaller area of actual shaft skin and if he only injected between the black lines, his penis would look very odd. So Dr C had no choice but to inject above and below the lines. GSX ended up with a ring and even after numerous procedures to try and fix it, still doesn\'t have a perfect result in that area.

You however, would still have a perfectly normal looking penis is Dr only injected between the lines, as your shaft skin goes right up the glans and right down to the base.

thehulk wrote: Wow, those numbers are compelling and impressive. 10% seems like it could work for me. I really appreciate those statistics, I\'ve read just about every progress report but I can\'t remember all the details, just that the success rate is appealing for PMMA, so much that I\'m already scheduled. I think you have the right idea and I\'ll talk to Dr.C and hopefully we can come to a reasonable solution. You say bring pictures, of myself or my ideal outcome?

Take the two photos I\'ve posted above and my explanation. Once Dr C see\'s them and reads it, he\'ll understand what I mean. I know he agrees as he\'s already told other members that he prefers to work on low cut penis\'s.

Basically PMMA behaves differently under different types of skin. So the best results will be those in which the PMMA is injected under the same type of skin from top to bottom. GSX has 3 types of skin covering his penis, the pink inner skin at the top, the main shaft skin and then the pubic skin. But you\'r penis is nearly all covered to the compliant shaft skin.

Do I not want any material below the black line on my base? And when I\'m in my room can I massage some of the material under my head to improve my taper?


I\'ll owe you a beer after all I said and done.

thehulk wrote: Do I not want any material below the black line on my base? And when I\'m in my room can I massage some of the material under my head to improve my taper? I\'ll owe you a beer after all I said and done.

For round 1 I\'d ask for a very small amount under the black line at the base, just to see how it react in this area. I\'d ask for nothing above the circ black line and not try and massage a taper later on. As far a taper that finishes at the black line. I think you\'ll be surprised at how natural it will look and if you aren\'t happy with it, have it touched up in round 2.

If you look at the left side of this photo I\'ve tried to draw what I mean. You want a slight taper at either end. I know at the top you\'ll think the taper is to early, but I think you are far better off going this route, as to try and inject above the circ line would be very risky. I think you\'ll be surprised how good it will look and, like I say, if you think it needs more in that area, have a little injected there in round 2.

If you follow my advice you should have an end result that looks a bit like Preston Parkers.

I\'ve sent you a link of his penis via PM (as it\'s porn, can\'t post it here.)

That would look pretty natural. Will 10% still give a firm feel?

thehulk wrote: That would look pretty natural. Will 10% still give a firm feel?

I\'ve not had PMMA myself, so can\'t say for sure, but from what I\'ve read it feels slightly more firm than a natural penis. It certainly doesn\'t sound like it\'s soft, as FFT can be.

Well your argument is very sound I have to admit. I will offer the plan that you\'ve laid out and see just what dr.c thinks, so if anything goes wrong I\'ll know who to look for jk


I appreciate your suggestions and time you\'ve taken to help me.

Dear thehulk, like Hoddle I have not had PMMA (nor any other procedure).

Just a few lines to say that I am glad you had this discussion with us. You heard some objections, including mine, and rightfully you made up your mind. I fully respect your choice.

I wish you the best of luck.

Whoops I didn\'t see this post! But thank you for the support.

Update:

My stretching has appeared to be getting results, I don\'t stretch a whole lot but my numbers are:

6.6\" non bone pressed Erect length which is an increase of .35\" ( maybe these are the noob gains?)
And bone pressed simulated Erect length is about a 7.9\" which is almost a .35\" gain as well.

So that\'s GREAT!! Could possibly take some pics this evening or tomorrow.

Ready for the bad??

Girth has went down from 5.9-6.0\" to 5.75\"
Which is kind of a downer but the added length is pretty significant and I could possibly see a 7\" non bone pressed Erection this year.
AND.... It just so happens I\'ll be going to DR.C in February, I\'ll keep stretching and see where I end up. I suppose I would be okay with 6.5\" Girth, but I think that might be asking a lot from one round of PMMA.

Conservatively I\'ll shoot for 6.2\" Girth and maintain a 6.5\" non bone pressed Erection. I think that would be ideal, anything more Girth or length wise would just be icing on the cake.