It will take me some time but I can reference threads & posts at the old PhalloBoards which discuss all the B.S. that went on over there.
If I\'m not mistaken all threads/posts before April of this year were deleted. Check out this thread to see what their excuse was for it (quite laughable and extremely unbelievable): www.mynewsize.com/forum/penis-ehancement...ll-history-here.html
Check out threads/posts created by members like mrstone and newgirth. Newgirth was a member at the Old PB that was banned for creating two separate accounts and pretending to be two different people (the very basic act of shilling) talking about how great the implant was. Mrstone showed up at the old PB claiming to be a retired shill and went on about how bad DFG and Alloderm was. Then at the last minute he had a \"gut feeling\" and went with the Elist implant. His outcome was supposedly successful and he had no pictures to show for it. A few other characters at MNS are questionable, and it takes a look around that forum to see that it is quite obviously bogus. There are assertions (like erect length being obtained by the implant alone) that have never been claimed by patients in the past (at least not to my knowledge).
Hell, this forum was created as a direct response to their blatant censorship. They deleted the famous Messageman\'s Journey thread and even PM\'ed a member making legal threats if they did not refrain from criticizing Elist.
It\'s tragic that anyone finds that forum first. The GOOD NEWS is that both the Old & New PB comes up more and more on search engines and will ultimately surpass MNS in time.
I\'m sure a lot of the old school veterans can chime in on the joke that is MNS.
boston2015 wrote: Were the shills agents of Elist? Why else would they shill?
They were presumably shills for Elist because:They were posting on a forum that was clearly a marketing front for Dr. E\'s practice (it doesn\'t take a lot of clicking around the site to see that it promotes the implant method).All the posts on MNS advocate the Elist implant with no photo evidence.There is reason to believe the site\'s previous/current owner (unknown at this time) as Chad H. may be working with Dr. Elist for his assistance in legal matters against a different physician - and so it is plausible these are the reasons why Dr. E is being promoted at MNS.These are circumstantial evidence, cannot prove with 100% certainty that shilling is going on, but that to most objective observers it\'s quite obvious lolI\'ll link some threads from the Old PB on this thread later to add to these observations.
chad worked with different doctors who I presume paid to be \"advertised\" on the site. THe site was basically a front for whichever doctor chad was in cahoots with. There were plenty of elist complaints on MNS until chad had his botched surgery in SD and went to elist to see what could be done about it. At that point all the bad PR for elist dissappeared and shills were all over the place. I doubt a doctors office has the time to place so many shills. I assume chad was on some kind of commission and was behind a number of them himself. All this info is a guess, but I was on MNS for a while before elist showed up and before the site became propaghanda for elist.
You said that \"the site was basically a front for whichever doctor chad was in cahoots with.\" I remember that I had a post which wasn\'t necessarily critical of Dr. Knight, but expecting skepticism on something that he had represented, and it was removed (honestly I don\'t remember the specific thing that was discussed, as it was awhile ago). That was the first time I had experienced the censorship at MNS firsthand. I wonder if there was a relationship between Dr. Knight and MNS at one time as well.
boston2015 wrote: When were the pre April post deleted?
Not sure of a specific date. But I believe it wasn\'t the first time they performed a mass deletion (I cannot recall the exact dates or time windows of previous deletions either, unfortunately). Such deletions will never find its place here. The only posts/threads that get deleted around here are the ones in violation to the forum rules found in my signature link.
That site is a total joke... if anyone doesn\'t believe its totally controlled by Elist go and try to post about PMMA and see how long it takes to get deleted; I feel bad for all the people who have been mislead by that site as I was one of them.
Zmann wrote: That site is a total joke... if anyone doesn\'t believe its totally controlled by Elist go and try to post about PMMA and see how long it takes to get deleted; I feel bad for all the people who have been mislead by that site as I was one of them.
I\'m pretty sure if you post anything non-implant that it will either not show up, or it will show up and eventually be deleted.
The reason why that forum appears to be active is because the same 2-3 guys will string-post once every other week, padding the threads as if people are actually talking over there. It\'s as if they are talking to themselves lol.
There is no need to defend the position that MNS is plagued with shills and bogus members with ulterior motives.' The bigotry, argumentative behavior, ridiculing and favoritism of the appointed officials are as transparent as the product they are pushing is flawed.' Too bad there were so many good men conned by such an undermined site.' Thank goodness for PB\'s!' Next ...
For those interested, some of the dialog at MNS before the deletions can still be read using this site: www.archive.org/web/web.php
It\'s pretty cool. just type in www mynewsize.com into the box and you can scroll back some months and years. I checked out April of 2011 and was checking out some of the convos I was having with other members there, including the growing suspicion that the forum was practicing censorship.
Saw Yardstick\'s progress report, as well as some genuinely informative threads. They were actually decent at one point in time.