TOPIC: Turning my boy toy into a Hunk Chunk

I will outline my quest for PE in a few short words. Spending weeks, months and years tugging away endlessly at my dissatisfaction would only serve to reinforce the shortcoming, so I decided against manual PE. So I started doing Chemical PE and may still pursue that path but it is at best a long term process also. Then I decided not to just research the possibility of Phalloplasty but to go ahead and have something done about it. I looked into any number of procedures some of which bring only partial benefits, and others which carry more promise. I finally resolved to seek out the only procedure which at present offers significant Girth gains without significant reported risks.
I have scheduled my first round of PMMA injections ten days from now, and I will be driving overnight from Las Vegas to San Diego, checking into a hotel and awaiting the shuttle to go to Tijuana where Doctor Luis Casavantes assisted by Zobel Wade will be providing the first in a series of PMMA injections. At that time I will be scheduling my second session for September, both as a review session correcting any imperfections and also possibly as an additional Girth enhancement session depending upon results from the first round. I will rely fully upon the great know how and professional and artistic talent of Dr C and his valued assistant to determine the best way to attain optimal results.
As usual for this section I will provide pictures before and after, maybe some snapshots of the procedure if that is okay with Dr C, and a detailed account of pre-operative preparation and post-operative progress. I can already vouch for the sincere and considerate greetings by email with Nurse Zobel Wade and over the phone with Christian, I concur with our fellow members here that their team has both professional competence as well as humanity. Phalloplasty therefor becomes not only a feasible alternative, but a comfortable and pleasant decision to enhance one\'s physique to improve one\'s quality of life.
My first round will be on July 21st and I will be taking the shuttle service from my hotel in San Diego to Dr C\'s office in Tijuana. After one night at the hotel I will be taking a short \"convalescence road trip\" in a rental car to see a few sights before driving back to Las Vegas to board my direct return flight to Paris. Advice about any local sights worth taking in are welcome, though I\'ll be avoiding the more extreme theme park roller coasters.
My initial precautions will be to take quite a few homeopathic Arnica Montana granules during the 2 days preceding and following the procedure, to rub down the \"surgical subject\" with Arnican cream prior to surgery, all in hopes of reducing swelling and inflammation. I will also be taking orally during several days prior to surgery 4 000g/day of Potoba consisting in p-Aminobenzoic Acid Potassium Salt, a connective tissue long muscle relaxant, and 4 daily tablets of Vitalaxin brand Porcine Relaxin, a hormonal substance which promotes collagen growth. As per the helpful advice of other forum members I will be taking an alpha blocker Alfuzosine 3 hours before the procedure as well as a light but effective relaxant one hour before.
This procedure comes after approximately one month of topical DHT cream application. During the general time frame of the procedure I have been undergoing hormonal treatment with weekly Chorionic Gonadotropin subdermal injections of 3000mg of Pregnyl. In case of need I will also be taking along a tube of Kenalog cream as well as an antibiotic cream, asking first the medical advice of Dr C prior to using anything.
Regarding my initial specs I am a Grower and not a shower, with average Girth for the length but sub average length: BPEL = 5.5\" and EG = 4.1/4\" which in centimeters converts to: BPEL = 14cm and EG = 11cm. My hoped for yet difficult to attain targets are BPEL = 7\" and EG = 6\". My expectation for the first phase of PMMA is to maybe reach 5\" Girth. I will be pursing the length gains with Chemical PE using QuadMix cavernous injections along with various supplements and by pumping.
HC

@Hunkchunk
I shall PM you shortly.
Good luck.

Hunchunk, have you experimented with the Alfuzosine already ? If so did you notice a better Flaccid hang ?

@ HC

Dude you probably hold the record as the person on this board who are trying to hit growth from all possible angles! I think you will find peace after your PMMA treatment and you will get big for sure! If you are a Grower you will find the extra weight will make your flacid penis look much better also!
I therefore wish you the best of luck.

I know I have commented on your use of hormones before. I don\'t like doing it as it might come across as me trying to play the clever uncle. I have also told you that you could pm me anytime if you want a safe drug regime to enhance your physique.

I am writing this publicly in case anyone reads your post and thinks it will improve their penis or their body.

It won\'t.

I note that you used to take a strong suicidal AI which will certainly help with the large dose of pregnyl you are administering.

However it will not prevent you becoming infertile which you have a very high risk of doing if you are taking pregnyl at those dosages without using steroids. Even if you did use a fair load of test this amount of pregnyl is way above what people do now a days. 2500-5000mg per week for two weeks at the end of a cycle was the norm. Now its 250mg per week or every other week during a long cycle. Shorter cycles has no need for preg.

If your aim is to grow breast tissue and becoming infertile and in turn having to rely on hormone therapy for the rest of your life then you are doing the right thing.

I don\'t write this to belittle you or play clever. I do it because I am (and have been) trying to reconsider your chemical plan and if you don\'t I want to make sure no one copies you.

That said I really wish you the best of luck with PMMA and hope you get a great result. You are a valued and good natured member of this board and my open critique of your chemical methods doesn\'t detract from this as I know you. Have the best intentions. Please take care of yourself my friend and forgive me if I caused offense. JAM

@Skeptical One
Yes, do PM me as I\'ll be in the States soon and in special delivery mode...
@mikehok
My general practitioner prescribed Alfuzosine as a preventive measure against prostrate growth. I tried it for a couple of days and it made me dizzy making me have to lie down to recover, so he switched the script to Avodart with dutasteride, which is also great against hair loss (and even possibly hair re-growth). But I stopped that too as it might have been countering the DHT topical cream. I will take a few tabs of Alfuzosine with me to take prior to the PMMA procedure, but otherwise avoid the stuff due to my bad side effects.
@Justabitmore
Thanks for your great reply and I am very happy indeed if somebody tries to reason me, also I\'d hate nothing more than giving bad ideas to others - taking risks with one\'s own health is one thing but we have a duty to the community. You\'re right, and it is no closet secret that my quest is more romantic than strictly physiological. That\'s why I am doing a whole list of things beyond PE. For example this morning I had a liposonix ultrasound stomach treatment and both love handles Zeltiq coolsculpture frozen. There are several other things on the list of which PE surgery is one. While maybe a woman shouldn\'t be what motivates us to change, one can definitely serve as a catalyst, and she has done just that, confronting me with many aspects of myself I want to be different, regardless of her or not. I am actually grateful that she confronted me with this so intimate of preoccupations, giving me the courage to go ahead and do something about it. Of course this is all rhetorical as she hasn\'t the faintest and will see me again as a changed and hopefully, in some ways, better man.
Also I am fairly surprised at what you\'ve said about the risks of taking Pregnyl. In France the dose I was prescribed is a mid-sized dosage in the medical reference book. However I am undergoing andropose, so unless you are quite elderly I don\'t think you\'d qualify age-wise as my \'uncle\' but nonetheless I appreciate the kind protective sentiment. I had all my blood levels checked and my doctor said that my testosterone levels were normal, blood was drawn after 2 months of large doses of DHT and 3 weeks of bodybuilding doses of Methyl 1-D. To me, and of course I\'m a newbie without any medical knowledge, this would imply that without such supplements my usual Testosterone levels were probably at least somewhat low.
I have noticed that after taking Pregnyl (I injected my second weekly dose 1500IU yesterday and 1500IU today) that I gain quite a bit in physical strength and am far more able to maintain an effort without encountering any fatigue. This is very different from when I was using the Testosterone boosters because then I had the surface impression of a lot of instant boost, but none of the low ebb strong energy. I am taking Formadrol against excessive estrogen, as well as rubbing DHT cream on my moobs (man boobs). Actually I\'ve had a minor case of gynecomastia since I was 14 and while there is a tiny bit of glandular growth there the rest is fat tissue which will get removed by cryogenic freeze at the end of the month (today I arranged to be the test subject for my local provider who happens to be a very prudent leading dermotologist).
I would much appreciate, as I am sure others would to, to learn more about why steroids are necessary to take with Pregnyl. Regarding fertility, I had no idea there were such risks and you do well to highlight it. I feel like the Pregnly has kick started my hormone production getting me back in the pink. If I find that there is too strong of a reaction next weekend when I inject again, I will down the dosage to a single shot per week at 1500IU. Let us remember that this was prescribed as a corrective hormonal balancing measure, it is only a coincidence that I am secretly desiring PE from it incidentally.
It is true that I am experimenting with various substances but do stop them as soon as I feel an adverse effect. Of course this won\'t prevent deeper consequences or long term problems such as sterility. So you do well to warn me and others to any implicit risks. Please don\'t hesitate to add explanations or details to what these are.
And I will in a week\'s time be joining others here in the manual side of PE using a mushroom head glans pump as well as an AutoVacs extender. You can say I\'ll try anything once or twice, that is... unless good friends like Justabitmore warn me otherwise.
Cheers,
HC

Mikehok-
I\'m very interested in learning more about alfuzosin and doxazosin and their effect on Turtling. I shrink up a lot with any physical activity. If I walk up a flight of stair, I probably lose an Inch and a half. At the end of an hour at the gym, heck, I look like an acorn. This concerns me because I am strongly considering PMMA and would like to prevent shrinkange during the healing phase so the filler doesn\'t form a funny shape.
Do you recommend one of these meds over the other or both? I\'m thinking of taking it pre-procedure and then for the 6 weeks following. I see both are available on medsmex.com.

@ mikehok
I think my doctor had prescribed two in a single take so I\'ll cut his script in half, especially as I\'ve stopped taking the Adovart. This should be a good combination with pumping. I\'ll be starting if I get Dr C\'s blessing that it is PMMA compatible.
Protocol being: Application of sodium acetate heat pack, then adding Andractim DHT cream with ground pills of Relaxin (Vitalaxin brand) and Potoba (French sun allergy pills), then applying DMSO for deep substance penetration, then using Mushroom head pump, finishing with cold flush with ice water. Note: I might precede this entire protocol with a QuadMix corpus caverna injection if I can get it prescribed soon.
HC

@ Mikehook, LEGEND !! Congrats! well deserved!!!!

@ HC

Well done for receiving my comments as I intended them.

Like Mike mentioned hormones shut your own production down while you are using them and it takes a while to get your own production up again. When your own production stops your testes experience Atrophy. It makes sense that small shrunken testes are less efficient at getting your own production back to normal so we used to take Pregnyl at the end of a cycle to wake the \'boys\' up again and subsequently make the recovery period quicker the dosage was about what you are taking. Then about ten years ago it was found that taking 250-500mg every week or two weeks while on was better and more predictable. Basically you prevented your testes from shrinking in the first place. So that is the correct use of this drug apart from its prescribed purpose as a fertility drug or to kick start puberty if there is a case of delayed onset.

The positive effects you are feeling now are what you would feel if you were on a moderate dose of testosterone. The difference is that when you stop testosterone your pituitary gland will eventually start production again even without a post cycle regime.
With pregnyl especially taken over a longer period this has not always been the case as it has the ability to shut down gonadotropins production permanently. You would then have to go on hrt to feel normal and would then have to use pregnyl when trying to get your woman pregnant.

This would not be the case if you used testosterone on its own. Hence if you are trying to get leaner/stronger and want to experience life in the high testosterone bracket then use testosterone.

Why anyone would prescribe it to you for an hormone imbalance is beyond me as it doenst cure it but could in fact do the opposite. I know you have experimented with test boosters like Methyl 1-D (much less efficient and much more harmful than just testosterone).

Seriously unless you have delayed onset puberty or you are trying to get your woman pregnant or you are at the end of a steroid cycle then you should not use this compound.

If you are trying to feel better and get stronger then use the real thing EG test enanthate or cypionate 250mg pw for 8-10 weeks. IF your nipples start to itch then make sure to start nolvadex or aromasin continue with those compounds for three-four weeks after. Very simple very safe. Good luck !

southie, I\'ve only taken Doxazosin and Tamsulozin so don\'t know how it compares to Alfuzosin. Probaly very similar except they all have different peak plasma times and different half lives. Tamsulozin is only available in extended release as far as I am aware so is less reliable if you need a quick response. Doxazosin normally is fully working within 2 hours of taking it.

I went in to get QuadMix prescribed and the Urologist scheduled me for a doppler: it will be 5 days after my first session with Dr C and I am wondering if I\'ll still be totally swollen and black and blue? Does anyone here remember how long it took for the swelling to start to subside?
HC

@ HC it varies I was black and blue for 5 days then it subsided quickly and after 8 no sign of swelling anymore. Others have taken longer and others hardly had any bruising!

@ HC

Just a quick post to tell you that I find your profile name hilarious. Love it dude. Cracks me up every time I read it.

PS. I\'m also in agreement with JAM on your phallic enlargement cocktail doing more harm than good. Having multiple family members in the medical field has it\'s advantages. For low test, might I recommend the following changes:

1. Work out with high intensity 4 times per week. No more.
2. Sleep as soundly as possible (REM sleep) for 8 hours.
3. Skip on meat fat as much as possible. Lean meat only.
4. Eat more cruciferous vegetables that pull false estrogen from the body.
5. Stay away from soy products and limit dairy.
6. Keep your BMI in check. Fat kills testosterone.
7. Drink a ton of water. Do I have to list why????
8. Store food in glass containers instead of plastic. (Yes even BPA-free ones)
9. Don\'t ejaculate more than 4 times per week.
10. Try this before saying it doesn\'t work. Trust me, it does. My dad is 72. He followed my recommendations and his testosterone is rising to levels of a normal 40 year old and they were very low. As any GOOD doctor will tell you: Eat right. Exercise right. Sleep right. Throwing synthetic or \'biologically identical\' hormones at your problem is a mistake. I only say this because I care. Please don\'t misconstrue my purpose in sharing this information with you and know that I wish you the best of success in your mission to build a bigger pee-pee.

It works.

miracle7 wrote: @ HC

Just a quick post to tell you that I find your profile name hilarious. Love it dude. Cracks me up every time I read it.

PS. I\'m also in agreement with JAM on your phallic enlargement cocktail doing more harm than good. Having multiple family members in the medical field has it\'s advantages. For low test, might I recommend the following changes:

1. Work out with high intensity 4 times per week. No more.
2. Sleep as soundly as possible (REM sleep) for 8 hours.
3. Skip on the meat fat as much as possible. Lean meat only.
4. Eat more cruciferous vegetables that pull false estrogen from the body.
5. Stay away from soy products and limit dairy.
6. Keep your BMI in check. Fat kills testosterone.
7. Drink a ton of water. Do I have to list why????
8. Store food in glass containers instead of plastic. (Yes even BPA-free ones)
9. Don\'t ejaculate more than 4 times per week.
10. Try this before saying it doesn\'t work. Trust me, it does. My dad is 72. He followed my recommendations and his testosterone is rising to levels of a normal 40 year old and they were very low. As any GOOD doctor will tell you: Eat right. Exercise right. Sleep right. Throwing synthetic or \'biologically identical\' hormones at your problem is a mistake. I only say this because I care. Please don\'t misconstrue my purpose in sharing this information with you and know that I wish you the best of success in your mission to build a bigger pee-pee.

It works.

Very informational! I wrote everything down.. Only think i may have a problem with is the sleeping thing. But your saying if I work out 6 days a week thats bad for me?

@Justabitmore
Thanks, I figured I\'d be safer after a week but heck I\'ll go in there with a grilled Weisswurst sausage and check out the scan doctor\'s reaction. I guess he\'ll be able to see the PMMA beads in the echographic scanner and wonder what this odd growth is inside it. I was sent there by an FFT doctor so I\'ll be having some explaining to do after. Over on this side of the pond they\'ve seen a lot of issues with PMMA granulomas and as penile surgery isn\'t nearly as accepted as elsewhere I bet I\'ll be getting my share of dismay lol. I\'ll let you know how it unfolds.
@Miracle7
Yeah that\'s a corny name but it does resume it all, some girls go for the hunks with a chunk. Also I take note of your recommended suggestions. I\'ve stopped all the supplements except for caffeine and the weekly Gonadotropine. I will only continue that one a while as I have gotten feedback that it has upped my libido more than the test supplements before.
Quote:Originally Posted by New1inch Very informational! I wrote everything down.. Only think i may have a problem with is the sleeping thing. But your saying if I work out 6 days a week thats bad for me?
Note: The only thing that I may have a problem with is... item number 9. Quick, where\'s my shot ?!?
HC

It\'s not corny HC... it\'s awesome! I love you man and I believe as dedicated as you are, you\'ll be massive in size. I cannot overstate the importance of a HEALTHY erection though. Health is #1 ALWAYS. By naturally increasing your free testosterone and decreasing your estrogen, you\'ll regain lost libido and won\'t need pharmaceuticals anymore. You\'ll want to tag every pretty thing you see.

@ N1 Regarding working out 6 times per week ... YES! Four times per week is optimal as your body needs time to recover and heal. Work out no longer than 45 minutes each session but keep it as intense as you can handle. Your rate should be through the roof for the duration of your session. Don\'t rest too much between sets either and try to keep reps to 7 or below pushing around 80% of your max and to failure as much as possible. Make sure you are doing plenty of squats. Hail to the KING baby. Squats are number one to induce huge amounts of testosterone released into the bloodstream. Try combining squats with roman chair sit-ups/crunches/leg raises. Guess what\'s in between your legs and you abs buddy? That\'s right. Your manhood. You\'ll have wood that will make and 18 year old jealous. As for sleep, it\'s extremely important as your body repairs itself during sleep, releases HGH, growth factors, testosterone (early morning) and more! Without quality sleep, you\'re running on empty and your body lacks the repair it needs to move forward in you workout routine. And since you are a glutton for punishment, you can do aerobic exercise on your \"off\" days. Cardiovascular activity will keep your and arteries in tip-top shape and provide you with even stronger erections. Just remember to sleep as soundly as possible and for no more and no less than 8 hours. #9 is a tough one for me too. Try edging! Having an erection boosts your testosterone through the roof! Just don\'t ejaculate. It\'s tough. It\'s worth it though. Try it and believe in me. I don\'t lie.


@ HC I\'m glad you didn\'t take offense to my post as I definitely didn\'t mean anything negative by it. I wish you the best sir! Take care and I hope you visit my thread soon. I\'m trying to update as I have time and would appreciate any and all feedback. Good luck... M7 out!