TOPIC: PhalBak - A Highly Innovative Vacuum Device

I had found that blog too. And so far his gains have primarily been in the device. We'll see if Erect gains eventually follow. It's a very well designed unit but everything is custom made so that and the monitoring raise the cost. I would think he, (Phalback),could design a smaller and less expensive version without the monitoring that could produce similar results. It's not hard to put measurements on the pump cylinder, many current ones already do. It will interesting to see how this works for this fellow as he has been in the PE world for some time apparently.

Yea, he says that great measuring is necessary cause the thing makes an automatic pause once you stretched a new high, and this process is like 40x per session if i understood it.

Interesting stuff from the threads covering 5 months of posts:

It's a race to stay ahead of the tissues becoming stronger. Typically around 60 days length stops increasing. Girth can continue because that is a different mechanism.

In the future when someone combines what we do to mechanically soften collagen with a drug to soften the collagen, we might take off to the moon. We know how to organically soften collagen. We forbid this in our contract because of the unknown medical risks, but we know someone is going to try it.

Over a 90 day period we generate about 4 million stretch events which are microscopic and last about 4 milliseconds each. With this we can be relatively gentle. That makes us very slow compared to what you might expect we could do. There are things you can do with automation that are impossible otherwise.

We get in and stretch hard for a few seconds the relax for a few seconds. Within about 30 of those cycles we've gotten almost all of what we are going to get at the time. The machine turns off and the client goes about their day.
Because we are measuring so precisely, we know when the benefit has ceased.
When we demonstrated for Big Al, his very first comment was that our measurement system is the game changer, measuring ever 0.25 seconds.

The max tension is unchanged during the 90 days. I personally experimented with higher levels and the additional stretch was not worth the risk.

Our Girth process is counterintuitive. We select a chamber a little larger than the head to eliminate or minimize any donut. This acts as a hard limit to how far the shaft can stretch radially. You are thinking that Girth growth requires a radial stretch. You can do it that way, but it's super slow as many men have learned. It's an axial stretch while maintaining a fixed diameter that causes a useful stretch. Again, this is completely counterintuitive. Imagine something soft in the shape of a cylinder. Hold it generally in place while pulling the center axially and you will see it pull in and get narrower. Ah, but with the penis in our chamber it cannot pull in axially. The vacuum will not allow it. It's being pulled in while being held out. Hence the stretch. Do the trigonometry on those forces and you see that the tissue gets a whole lot more tension than vacuum alone could ever apply. And safely.

Girth and length happen simultaneously. However their rates vary based on chamber size. If we are contouring for Girth, the length will often step back by 0.1 inches for about a week because we are pulling more tissue out to fill a wider chamber. It makes a sawtooth pattern in the data. When the chamber is wider, more of the tension is diverted into the radial stretch, as described above.

It is not available until we have a clinical partner in an area. At the moment that's Atlanta, Tampa, Nashville, and Baton Rouge. More locations are coming in January. If you have a relationship with a clinic that is already in the "penis" business, we'd appreciate an introduction.

Do not think of your penis as some sort of taffy that will slowly stretch over an hour. Think of it as a natural fiber rope. Imagine giving it a sharp yank which you hold. It might break a few fibers when the tension is applied, but then it's going to do nothing. So let it go slack and do that again. That is how I found that I was making progress, doing that a couple hundred times. I was using vacuum to create the yank, so to call it a yank is overstating it. But I got it tight, then relaxed. Not unlike the manual methods. The advantage over manual methods is that you can automate the application of cyclic tension. Find a real vacuum pump and get a kid with an Arduino to control the pump. Install a vacuum limiting valve and a gauge to get the vacuum right and stay out of the dangerous vacuum levels. With this you can do a cycle probably every two seconds. In 15 minutes that is 450 stretch events. And all of those stretch events are to the exact vacuum and tension you set.
We automate it and find a frequency nearer the harmonic frequency of the penis. That's the complex part of what we do. Yet it allows us to get in more than 20,000 stretch events in a day.

We need to supervise at least two sessions and they must be 7 hours apart. Someone with ss needs to evaluate fit and technique. We leave the machine with the measured chamber size and the next three upsizes. That's over an Inch of Girth with diameter span of 0.375 inches.

Penis harmonics: I found that my penis could be made to "ring", or vibrate at certain frequencies. The science there is pretty clear on how that softens collagen. create waves throughout the tissue that the collagen is unprepared for. Imagine making waves in a pool that are directed to the other side. They will reach the other side then bounce back. The harmonics are frequencies that make the waves build more energy than is lost to heat. If you were to measure the pressure at a fixed depth under the water at the other side, you would find the pressure fluctuating with the wave height. I create waves in the penis that drive the transient tensions within the collagen to fluctuate and hopefully exceed the level needed for a slippage.

It's all at a microscopic level with nearly nothing accomplished. Nearly nothing. But nearly nothing multiplied by hundreds of thousands of times can add up. The hard part is getting it all to happen while staying under the limits of tissue we do not want to be stressed, like the skin and blood system. Without automation I'd call it impossible to operate with that precision. I have both the engineering and controls ss to pull it off. ...The Phalback uses an eccentric rotating mass vibration motor with a frequency of 3600 RPM (60Hz)

In addition to the $20,000 for services, you make a $10,000 rental deposit which is refunded when you return the machine.

Someone "I found the patent. It's pretty impressive and comprehensive, patent number 11517467."

Ok, it's only available in USA, and only in certain places..
And so far he is not looking for people who have fillers if i am right

I guess principles are:
- 2x a day, at least 8h in between, 10-15min
- supershort 'maximum stretch' and then release again, do this 40x (so every about 15seconds
- i guess do this with either/and manual stretches (length) and pump (Girth?)
- lots of more complicated stuff that is not replicable

- first few public logs only now seem to start to be underway
I guess only after like 5 of these we'll start to have a picture

Yup wrote: Is it ok that I link to that here Skeptical_One ?

Of course, if the information is pertinent, relevant, and authentic (within forum rules/guidelines), it's most admissible. The idea is to get all the necessary information we can to be more informed decision makers. Thanks for the link!

@Dream , I think the other key is using a more snug cylinder to concentrate the force on lengthening, then increasing gradually that as growth occurs.

Dream wrote: Yea, he says that great measuring is necessary cause the thing makes an automatic pause once you stretched a new high, and this process is like 40x per session if i understood it.

Interesting stuff from the threads covering 5 months of posts:

In addition to the $20,000 for services, you make a $10,000 rental deposit which is refunded when you return the machine.

Am I reading that correctly: the initial outlay is $30,000?

If a sex store won't take back a dildo, I'm confident a medical facility will not re-use penis equipment, despite both being easily sterilized (the former even more so and cheaper)

Hospitals re-use cystoscopy (bladder camera) equipment. From time to time a patient gets an infection after the procedure. Of course, no one can *prove* it came from inadequate cleaning of the equipment.

edit: I see this was answered downthread, so I'll add "ask your urologist what the diameter of the camera is." The web says modern cameras are 4 or 5mm in diameter. The one they used on me last year was probably an antique; it was the size of my little finger, and I "experienced some discomfort" as the medical practitioners like to put it.

They re use the equipment not he pump cylinders

I contacted them and asked for the device to be delivered to Emirates to a certified clinic, but they refused. I suggested To buy the device for double price and a non-commercial use agreement, but was refused and ignored. I'm inclined to believe that this device is a scam. Until we see real tests and evidence.

Emirates777 wrote: I contacted them and asked for the device to be delivered to Emirates to a certified clinic, but they refused. I suggested To buy the device for double price and a non-commercial use agreement, but was refused and ignored. I'm inclined to believe that this device is a scam. Until we see real tests and evidence.

I don't believe their unwillingness to ship it abroad is sufficient grounds to throw the word "scam" around to be frank, and here's the reason why: the pump is treated as a medical device and thus is prescribed by an American physician and not directly by the company (although to be fair, this too is a little confusing because it appears they possibly deal with repairs, refunds, etc, and I'll have to reach out to them).

If this policy (i.e. requiring a Doctor's Orders) remain consistent today, then it makes complete sense why they wouldn't ship it abroad. They have every reason to make a profit, so denying the transaction for DOUBLE the asking price at your request tells me they take seriously liability and other constraints (e.g. laws), and only a true scammer would have gone through with the transaction in the face of questionable hurdles & possible infractions.

I should note that I could be wrong in my assumption that they denied shipment due to "the rules," but I can't see how turning down double the business in it of itself is scam-like. They could have any other number of reasons, which include the potential costs of having to cover the hefty costs of shipping it back & forth in the need it requires repairs, etc.

User Dickwhitman79 said in a separate Phalback post: "I got a refund before i ever started. They are a professional organization but I think they jumped the gun on their claims." and others have mentioned that the Company has been dialing back on the size emphasis, and finding it to be more effective in treating Erection quality (which in turn can improve maximizing your natural size). Their willingness to change their claims when presented with newer and large sample sizes is a positive thing, when they could have always doubled down on their original claims (and that isn't to say their initial studies were wrong or that you cannot gain actual size with its therapy). Again, these decisions by Phalback seem far less scam-like upon further examination.

As I've stated numerous times previously, they are not a Sponsor and instead a limited time Advertiser on the frontpage -- the distinction is that a Sponsor is endorsed by the PhalloBoards, while limited time advertisers are simply that, ads. If it appears to be a viable and relatively safe alternative to other options here, I'm all for sharing it, but if they aren't a Sponsor, I cannot say that I share any convictions in their guarantees.

I genuinely felt (and still do, despite some of the changes in narrative) that precision manual penis enlargement has the most potential for successful gains (if they are at all possible), since tracking data is so much more accurate and reliable. Phalback represented the first time I've seen this level of precision & engineering in a device intended for the benefits of the penis (be it size and/or Erection quality).

What I'm hoping is to reach out to them this month and see if they are willing to share a forum post (through me or directly themselves) on what Phalback has learned in the past year and what its primary purpose is today.