TOPIC: Source of size insecurity

Before I go any further, I will say this: I love my wife and my children very much.
In the last 2 years, I\'ve had very little sex with my wife. Probably about 10 to 30 times. Earlier relationships I had with women: we had sex like 3 times a day or more / less / at least once a day (when average). Initially, I equated this to a problem with being too big. Later, I attributed it to her not being attracted to my Dick post-PMMA. Now, I equate this to being a problem with her libido and / or my expectations. IE - it is \"normal\". Also plus the fact that women cannot take a big one that often.

I\'m posting today, on this thread, because I feel that I\'m really getting deeper, and closer to the matter at hand. Before PMMA, I really was about average, maybe even above average. I was 6.5 EL X 5 EG. I am now 6.25 EL X 5.75 (maybe even 6) EG. My Girth now is clearly way above average.

For the first year, post PMMA, I was strictly faithful to my wife. As the amount of sex I received decreased, I increased the amount of \"outside sexual attention\" that I was receiving. To remain \"sane\". As things in my sex life got progressively worse, I (finally) turned to actual penetrative sex outside of our relationship. Part of my choice to have sex outside of the marriage was selfish, but some of it really was because I wanted to try out my new tool.

I am finally at a turning point, I now realize that the whole thing really has nothing to do with the penis at all. But it is more complex than that. Which I will elaborate on.

Before my marriage, I probably slept with 200+ women. After my marriage, I have now slept with 5-10+ women. It sounds terrible, I know.

I am admitting this now, not because I am bragging, or feeling self pity, but because I have had a chance to use my post PMMA Cock with at least 10 women. Now before anybody goes on assuming things, lets remember that before my marriage, I used my pre-PMMA Cock with at least 200 women.

I am sharing this, because pre-PMMA, before meeting my wife, I legitimately struggled with penile size anorexia. I know many millions of other men do too. So I am posting.

I now want to share the truth that has been uncovered by my life experiment. I am sharing this because I want (other) men, to know the truth. Period - at least from my experience. The output of the below is the result of my experiences in my life.

Unfortunately, I only have feedback for men who are average sized or larger.
However, I am almost certain that what I say below HOLDS TRUE for smaller men.

Okay guys, ready? - here it is.

1. Women do notice a difference in size. All of them.
2. There are no medals awarded for being too big. (or average, or small)
3. Some women are not aroused by average penises.
4. Some women are not aroused by large penises.
5. Some women are not aroused by small penises.
6. Most women think 5.5+ EG is TOO big.
7. Most women can enjoy average sized penises - ALOT.
8. Most women can enjoy large sized penises - ALOT - Usually WITH PAIN.
9. Some women are curious about trying sex with a large penis. But generally, they still experience PAIN.
10. Women generally use size as a tool to manipulate men emotionally. Small, Medium, AND Large.
11. A large penis can and does often does hurt a woman physically.
12. A average penis does not generally hurt women.
13. Normal women do not respond to a big penis in real life the way they do in porn.
14. Women enjoy sex with average men, ALOT.
15. Women enjoy sex with large men, ALOT - but with PAIN.
16. A \'quicky\' is not easily possible with a large Girth (with most women).
17. A woman can \"feel\" a big penis more than they can \"feel\" an average penis.
18. From a mans perspective, it \"feels\" almost the same - a bit tighter, but with other \"issues\".
19. Some women \"brag\" about large penises with other women even if they don\'t enjoy it. (I found texts of my wife \"bragging\" to other women even though she clearly enjoyed my average penis more. - She had much more regular sex with my average penis - and appeared physically to enjoy it more.
20. All people respond to the presence large penis more than an average penis - Yes, they know it is around and can detect it.
21. Most men are insecure about having a large penis \"around\".
22. Most women are \"attracted/nervous\" to the idea of having a large penis \"around\".
23. Women care more about size than they do about how it looks.
24. A larger penis will generally cure penis anorexia however it will not cure alcoholism (it might make it worse).
25. A larger penis will make its owner feel more confident, at least if they play with their business.
26. A long penis is actually a liability, not a benefit, with many women - I\'ve had several women (the majority) confide that if my penis was longer that really, they would not be able to service it comfortably. I should note that this was something that happened AFTER my alteration. I\'ve had multiple women tell me I am \"perfect as long as I am not longer\". This is peculiar. Women don\'t normally say this.
27. Some women with a very small vagina are more likely to enjoy (more) a large penis physically - however, WITH PAIN. I should note that these women are VERY acutely aware of size. The woman with the \"smallest\" vagina seemed to enjoy it the most. This would suggest that the statement \"size matters\" is essentially true, with caveats.
28. If size does matter to women, it does not matter as much as men think it does. Men think it (small size) is like \"Eggs benedict without hollandaise\", but really it is like \"Eggs benedict with a little less sauce\". In other words, its still damn good regardless. So lets codify this: Sex with a small penis still feels pretty awesome for women.


That is it for now. I will add more if I think they\'re true.

Although that was interesting to know it made me feel more self concious after reading it

Reklaw wrote: Although that was interesting to know it made me feel more self concious after reading it

Sorry Reklaw, my goal was just to expose as much \"accurate\" information as I could.

While I was going through my penile anorexia all I wanted was \"real\" information, so I could make my own mind about things. As we ALL know, the information on the web is not really consistent and just gives us mixed messages.

See my next post please.

Also, if insecure, you may want to re-read: #28, #17 & #18, #4, #19. If still insecure, re-read #28.

In fact, lets say this: If you read these are feel insecure: read #28 - if you still feel insecure, re-read: #28.

If that does not make you feel better, re-read:#17 and #18. Then read this:

It is logical that pussy size difference feels the same/similar for men as it does for women. IE: whether the penis is bigger or the pussy is smaller, the result is the same: It feels (from a mans perspective) smaller and tighter. But anyone with a Dick who has had sex with a few pussies of different sizes: the variation in how it feels is not THAT significant. IE even a very loose pussy can still be very fun and exciting.

I think if the pussy (or penis for that matter) is VERY VERY VERY loose (or penis is VERY VERY VERY small) it is hard to get \"as much\" excitement. But small guys (or very loose women) who read this, you should consider to also read this: This difference does not make the act unenjoyable or \"pointless\". It is still sex, it is still exciting and it is still fun.

Don\'t worry bout it, just me been nuts

See #28.

Restoration wrote: My friend just texted this to me (I am obviously not on this app since I am in sexual quarantine) but this sums up about 70% of interactions with other gay men online. There\'s a source of insecurity if I ever saw one.

Gays FOR SURE have it the worst. Trust me, straight dudes - girls can be prickly about that but not to the degree that gay dudes are. Literally Cock monsters.

buttercups wrote: Before I go any further, I will say this: I love my wife and my children very much.
In the last 2 years, I\'ve had very little sex with my wife. Probably about 10 to 30 times. Earlier relationships I had with women: we had sex like 3 times a day or more / less / at least once a day (when average). Initially, I equated this to a problem with being too big. Later, I attributed it to her not being attracted to my Dick post-PMMA. Now, I equate this to being a problem with her libido and / or my expectations. IE - it is \"normal\". Also plus the fact that women cannot take a big one that often.

I\'m posting today, on this thread, because I feel that I\'m really getting deeper, and closer to the matter at hand. Before PMMA, I really was about average, maybe even above average. I was 6.5 EL X 5 EG. I am now 6.25 EL X 5.75 (maybe even 6) EG. My Girth now is clearly way above average.

For the first year, post PMMA, I was strictly faithful to my wife. As the amount of sex I received decreased, I increased the amount of \"outside sexual attention\" that I was receiving. To remain \"sane\". As things in my sex life got progressively worse, I (finally) turned to actual penetrative sex outside of our relationship. Part of my choice to have sex outside of the marriage was selfish, but some of it really was because I wanted to try out my new tool.

I am finally at a turning point, I now realize that the whole thing really has nothing to do with the penis at all. But it is more complex than that. Which I will elaborate on.

Before my marriage, I probably slept with 200+ women. After my marriage, I have now slept with 5-10+ women. It sounds terrible, I know.

I am admitting this now, not because I am bragging, or feeling self pity, but because I have had a chance to use my post PMMA Cock with at least 10 women. Now before anybody goes on assuming things, lets remember that before my marriage, I used my pre-PMMA Cock with at least 200 women.

I am sharing this, because pre-PMMA, before meeting my wife, I legitimately struggled with penile size anorexia. I know many millions of other men do too. So I am posting.

I now want to share the truth that has been uncovered by my life experiment. I am sharing this because I want (other) men, to know the truth. Period - at least from my experience. The output of the below is the result of my experiences in my life.

Unfortunately, I only have feedback for men who are average sized or larger.
However, I am almost certain that what I say below HOLDS TRUE for smaller men.

Okay guys, ready? - here it is.

1. Women do notice a difference in size. All of them.
2. There are no medals awarded for being too big. (or average, or small)
3. Some women are not aroused by average penises.
4. Some women are not aroused by large penises.
5. Some women are not aroused by small penises.
6. Most women think 5.5+ EG is TOO big.
7. Most women can enjoy average sized penises - ALOT.
8. Most women can enjoy large sized penises - ALOT - Usually WITH PAIN.
9. Some women are curious about trying sex with a large penis. But generally, they still experience PAIN.
10. Women generally use size as a tool to manipulate men emotionally. Small, Medium, AND Large.
11. A large penis can and does often does hurt a woman physically.
12. A average penis does not generally hurt women.
13. Normal women do not respond to a big penis in real life the way they do in porn.
14. Women enjoy sex with average men, ALOT.
15. Women enjoy sex with large men, ALOT - but with PAIN.
16. A \'quicky\' is not easily possible with a large Girth (with most women).
17. A woman can \"feel\" a big penis more than they can \"feel\" an average penis.
18. From a mans perspective, it \"feels\" almost the same - a bit tighter, but with other \"issues\".
19. Some women \"brag\" about large penises with other women even if they don\'t enjoy it. (I found texts of my wife \"bragging\" to other women even though she clearly enjoyed my average penis more. - She had much more regular sex with my average penis - and appeared physically to enjoy it more.
20. All people respond to the presence large penis more than an average penis - Yes, they know it is around and can detect it.
21. Most men are insecure about having a large penis \"around\".
22. Most women are \"attracted/nervous\" to the idea of having a large penis \"around\".
23. Women care more about size than they do about how it looks.
24. A larger penis will generally cure penis anorexia however it will not cure alcoholism (it might make it worse).
25. A larger penis will make its owner feel more confident, at least if they play with their business.
26. A long penis is actually a liability, not a benefit, with many women - I\'ve had several women (the majority) confide that if my penis was longer that really, they would not be able to service it comfortably. I should note that this was something that happened AFTER my alteration. I\'ve had multiple women tell me I am \"perfect as long as I am not longer\". This is peculiar. Women don\'t normally say this.
27. Some women with a very small vagina are more likely to enjoy (more) a large penis physically - however, WITH PAIN. I should note that these women are VERY acutely aware of size. The woman with the \"smallest\" vagina seemed to enjoy it the most. This would suggest that the statement \"size matters\" is essentially true, with caveats.
28. If size does matter to women, it does not matter as much as men think it does. Men think it (small size) is like \"Eggs benedict without hollandaise\", but really it is like \"Eggs benedict with a little less sauce\". In other words, its still damn good regardless. So lets codify this: Sex with a small penis still feels pretty awesome for women.


That is it for now. I will add more if I think they\'re true.

One of the best posts in 2016, maybe the best. I\'m a firm believer in #10, but your entire list is spot-on.

Fellow brethren, please take heed with Buttercup\'s relevant insight.

I think a lot can be said about erectile quality as well. A 6 x 5 penis with an Erection that is so hard it points to the sky will please a woman more than a 7 x 6 penis that has weak Erection quality. I know this because I have been experiencing weaker erections ever since getting PMMA... which was caused psychologically bc I\'m so much in my head about the reaction of the appearance. It\'s gotten better lately and I take 1/4 of a viagra for confidence but I want to stop using this crap as a crutch. Anyways I envy smaller guys than me that have super hard erections. Anybody know how to get those. Is it genetic? I\'ve never in my life remember have my penis point up while standing. Sucks.

neverendingjourney wrote: I think a lot can be said about erectile quality as well. A 6 x 5 penis with an Erection that is so hard it points to the sky will please a woman more than a 7 x 6 penis that has weak Erection quality. I know this because I have been experiencing weaker erections ever since getting PMMA... which was caused psychologically bc I\'m so much in my head about the reaction of the appearance. It\'s gotten better lately and I take 1/4 of a viagra for confidence but I want to stop using this crap as a crutch. Anyways I envy smaller guys than me that have super hard erections. Anybody know how to get those. Is it genetic? I\'ve never in my life remember have my penis point up while standing. Sucks.

EQ depends on so many variables its not easy to pin point unless enough info is provided. Psychological effect it probably the most to conquer but of course there are physical effects too.
Age and over weight are big ones. Diet and exercise are also important in getting better Erection quality.

Before my elist implant, I used to have excellent EQ pointing upwards. After its barbaric Removal in his office while I was watching my open pelvic, I never can get the same EQ. Plus now with PMMA, its weight causes it to point straight forward at best.

But if I have a new girl, my member seem to behave great, so its a mind set too. Still erections are never as hard as they used to be 3 years ago and not upwards.

Thanks SO.
I think anyone who has done PE is in a unique position because they\'ve seen both sides of the coin.

I agree to all except:

\"20. All people respond to the presence large penis more than an average penis - Yes, they know it is around and can detect it.\"

Maybe people respond to the confidence / the aura of confidence that some with a big Dick may have, but if it\'s concealed properly I don\'t think there\'s a magical or subcounsious presence to a big Dick that would make people just somehow know its around. - Though many who are considering PE, or bummed about their size, would like to think this is true.

But other than that I can definitely relate to most points on this list. It definitely hit home! ... Especially these numbers I can say I can completely relate to: 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 23, 24, 27, 28 ... lol basically most of them.

neverending is spot on about eq. That and the amount and slipperyness of the woman\'s liquid negates most of the points. When I pump, willy is bigger but softer and eq is less and I \"see\" the effect on the same woman. The points have to be reviewed ...

Didn\'t read DWD\'s post before. No more to be said ...

I just gave a Chinese masseuse named Wendy a good pussy massage. She seemed thoroughly interested in having me agree that she had a small pussy. That is something that I have been noticing. It seems women are competing about who has the smallest pussy.

This was something I never experienced as a small / average man. First off all, she didn\'t seem to be able to take the whole thing. This was a first for me.

Second, she was very into it and I think she had an orgasm. But it\'s hard to tell with masseuses because they fake it a lot. But she seemed very wet, very excited and very full.

I tried several times to push it in bit she always defended it.

So funny. She was a size queen but couldn\'t handle it!

All she did though was talk about how an average one didn\'t hurt and how it was easier. Folks - the grass is greener