B6 does help as does the herb mucuna pruriens (which is more effective). However, nothing is as potent as cabergoline. As far as lasting side effects are concerned, I have zero and none were shown in clinical trials. It has been used in parkinson\'s patients for years. The combo of cabergoline and PT-141 is great and very effective. The great thing about mucuna pruriens is that it also boosts dopamine in the brain and reduces SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) which binds/cleaves to testosterone rendering it inactive. Most testosterone is bound by SHBG or is converted by aromatase into estrogen, DHT, etc. Free testosterone is what you are after. Stinging nettle root is also a potent SHBG binding herb. Mucuna pruriens is the herbal equivalent of cabergoline. I use it and love it (small amounts). Keeping all of your hormones optimized (testosterone (and it\'s metabolites), estrogen, DHEA, thyroid, growth hormone, etc) drastically effect erectile performance and libido. Eat healthy and exercise to keep blood flow in check and you are good to go. I too prefer the natural route and have managed to fully restore my T levels to that of my early twenties. Staying lean/trim/cut also reduces aromatase and boosts your T levels. For the first time in decades, at 39, I have a six pack and can f*ck like a machine. It has not been an easy journey but was well, well, well worth it. Put down your cell phone, get off the computer, stay away from plastics (xenoestrogens) and soy (phytoestrogens), take your shirt off and chase down a deer in the woods. Be a man. There\'s a reason that low testosterone is such an epidemic in today\'s society. Modern living turns most of us into a shadow of our former selves. Man wasn\'t created to live in a cubicle under artificial lighting only to come home and crash on the couch and eat potato chips and update Facebook status.
Man! You\'ve gotten my hopes high.
After your earlier message about prolactin, I did some research.
It appears Vitamin B-6 in its pure form (called p5p) helps reduce prolactin as well. Since that is more natural , I ordered that already.
However I would love to hear from you about how I can get dostinex. I hope it does not come with lasting side effects although I only plan to use it every now and then.
I have been working on quality of the erections and just being able to last more and something like this can help me finally not think too much about the size aspect.
Just PMed you. Although I am sure the other guys on the site would love to know more too, so you might want to share this with everyone.
I have an excellent source for generic dostinex (cabergoline). PM me if anyone is interested. (Wait... my mailbox is full -- must delete some old mssgs). It is not for long term use... unless you have Parkinson\'s. Cabergoline drastically reduces levels of prolactin which are part of the natural feedback loop that tells the body that you are \"finished\" having sex. About .5mg/week will have an excellent effect in reducing the refractory period and in some case, produce multiple orgasms (it did for me). The orgasms are intense and until I tried cabergoline, I had never experienced such explosive, body shaking orgasms. Nice thing about it is you can do it all over again just a few minutes later. If one were to combine cabergoline/cabaser with Cialis/levitra/viagra and PT-141 (bremelanotide), one could in theory, destroy all women on a college campus. However, risk of Priapism would be high and I do not recommend someone use such an aggressive protocol. I\'ve managed to elevate my natural levels of testosterone to that of my youth and do not require any assistance. With my anniversary rapidly approaching, I will begin dosing in the coming weeks. I\'ll also be returning to Tijuana for Round 3. My wife is going to kill me... or is it the other way around? Haha
Sorry guys! I am married, have 3 children and a full time job... well, make that two jobs. Haha
There are primarily two factors that affect the refractory period. One is the formerly mentioned hormone prolactin which decreases interest in sex and makes men \"disinterested\" in a repeat performance. This is easily combated by the Rx Cabergoline/Dostinex/Cabaser or Pramipexole. It does take some time (week or two) to elevate blood levels of Cabergoline so that you can fu*k like a teenager (or likely better ) While on Cabergoline, my refractory period is approximately 5 minutes or less. Sometimes, I don\'t even want to pull out; just go for it all over again.
Then you have oxytocin (the cuddle hormone). This makes men/women want to cuddle/snuggle after sex. I always wanted to \"crash\" so this hormone was never a factor for me.
The other \"big\" obstacle to overcome is endorphins. This neurotransmitter fills you with a sense of well being, euphoria and intense pleasure. Endorphins bind to opiate receptor sites in your brain. An overproduction of endorphins (too much pleasure) results in decreased sexual desire due to the \"reward\" of orgasm having less effect. In essence, you become overstimulated and the same act (sex) will not produce the same amount pleasure as the opiate receptor sites are still recovering from the stimulation they just received from your endorphins. The secret here is to maintain good health and exercise frequently. Combine this with allowing yourself to \"semi\" climax without full ejaculation and you will become a super stud. It is difficult to master but makes subsequent rounds of intercourse much easier. You can still climax but without full ejaculation.
It is best if one starts early in the morning while testosterone levels are peaking. Healthy testosterone and growth hormone levels make the entire marathon process much easier. Exogenous testosterone will NOT have the same beneficial effect as it causes shutdown and your arousal is highly dependent on luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH). But that my friends, is for another post...
The male refractory period is largely due to the release of prolactin at orgasm which causes satiety and the forthcoming male sleepiness. This increases as males age. There are ways to reduce prolactin and be ready to go again within 5-10 minutes. I know from personal experience... as I am 39 years old and can outperform most teenagers. I could take on a cheerleader squad and satisfy every last one of them. It is awfully taxing physically though. Endurance/Stamina is a must.
A big hurdle I overcame towards multiple-sex sessions was that even if the desire didn\'t immediately kick back in, the actual physical functioning may have already recovered.
I read somewhere a long time ago, who knows if its even accurate or not that the average refractory period is like 15 minutes for a full recovery of the male Erection/ejaculation complex.
This might not work for everyone, and obviously might be a bit harder if you are older and actually have some more physiological issues, but I just keep plowing ahead, switch to foreplay and or oral for a period and then slowly switch back into intercourse if needed/desired. A common trick I do if I\'m not hard yet is to start giving them a nice backrub, with you sitting on them sort of thrusting in sync. That usually gets me hard asap and then its a natural transition.
Id say a big no to energy drinks... they might give you more \"energy\" but the stuff thats in them will actually make it harder for you to get hard (at least in my experience).
The most I have had in a day was probably 8 different sex sessions... (with 4 ejaculations on my part) we literally spent the entire day in bed just breaking for food and water.... BUT that was before my enlargement.