TOPIC: At ease

Insight - you should take SO\'s advice and look into Botox or alpha blockers. Dr. C is doing Botox for $250 now and I am sure there are other docs doing it in the states as well. At 10% the cost of just one PMMA session and 6 to 12 month results wouldn\'t it be worth trying this first? If you really want permanent results and are only interested in Flaccid gains then shouldn\'t you be looking into having your ligs cut?

Well succes with natural pe is not guaranteed.
And to my experience the guys who gained in Flaccid were already show-ers to beginn with.

But sure if you have not tried go try that. Watch out you can hurt yourself pretty bad aswell with natural pe.

God im so thankfull for this forum, all the natural salesman pe forums make me puke. \"Buy this product, do this stupid exercise even tho it does not work\"

Buddy,

Most PE methods (jelquing, the use of extenders, Hanging etc) will help you attain a larger Flaccid Dick first, then the real lnegth gains follow. You can rely on natural methods alone to achieve what you are seeking. However, you will also gain length. For Girth you can also try what is knows as \'Clamping\'.

Yes on perscription only, wish i could sent you guys a pack so you could see for yourself how awesome this is. However if you ask your doc it should be possible to get. Or some other way.

Insight with a 8x5 flaccid cock
Well the solution is to come up with ideas. This has to be possible to my belive! Without surgery without injections of fillers.

If you guys have anymore questions towards the spray or ideas for increasing the flaccd penis, i would not mind if you post them in the Grower to Show-er thread. To get the ball rolling.

phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Tur...r-5968131?trail=15#2

Its right even show-ers would want their flaccid at max size possible to show.

I saw it as well, click asesticgirth\'s username and click threads started by him in order to find it... Annoying to link on my iPhone.

Looks like it was a prescription drug and not something you can get over the counter?

@aestheticgirth, What?? Please elaborate on the spray on bandaid.
Nevermind found the thread

Being a Grower kind of blows :/ It sucks at pools, in locker rooms, at the beach, hell even just wearing pants. I honestly do not think I\'ve ever been judged adversely by a woman because of it, but it plays on my confidence quite a bit despite my Erect size which is a bit crazy. And I really do hate having to get a semi to take a piss that I feel safe about lol. Not to mention the possibility of co-workers, friends seeing my tiny Flaccid and starting rumors about that shit :/

Just out of curiosity, is it still dysmorphia for a Grower to obsess over size despite being average or larger when Erect?

@aestheticgirth, so you just sprayed yourself with a spray on bandaid and it worked? Interesting!

My experience with nitroglycerin bandaid/spray was almost magical. Because i wasn\'t expecting anything anymore.

Try to get your hands on that stuff and find yourself with a Flaccid penis of almost your entire Erect size.
Length and circumference!
Without risking to be affected by the risk of PMMA and the risk of an unaesthetic result or future problems.

There has to be a diffrent way to get this done for a time period of ca. 12 hours.


Your thread is coincidence, already had the nitrothread moved from chemical section to natural pe section and felt the only thing left to do at all is to get a thread in the mainsection. To be done, to reach, to the extend that was possible.


I mean we have a pill that gives us a full Erection.
Where is the pill or i don\'t know what that gives a 20-30% Erection for a longer time period. Well you get what i want to point out with that i guess.

I have the same problem, Turtling that is, not pissing on my Balls. I am of adequate size aswell being 7 in. NBPEL and 5.5 EG. I will be getting PMMA in the future mostly for a bigger Flaccid, a bigger Dick when Erect is just a bonus . I have gained a little Flaccid length through manuel PE but only length.

I\'m a Grower, just about as hardcore as you (though I\'ve never pissed on my Balls...that\'s probably because I press against my fat pad, so maybe if I didn\'t, I could experience this too??).

PMMA has improved the overall appearance of my Flaccid yes, however my penis still wants to turtle hardcore. I have a feeling that us turtler\'s will need to look at other treatment options (i.e. botox, alpha blockers??) that may prove more useful than simply injecting fillers. My Flaccid looks fat, pig-in-the-blanket and doesn\'t nearly get as small as it used to - but the fact is - that it was and still is a Grower!

Don\'t want to be a debbie downer but I\'m not sure that PMMA alone will magically solve the problem. Your Flaccid may not get as small as it used to, and hell, it may improve Turtling. But if your penis is inherently a Grower, that simply wont change.

Should note manual PE isn\'t without its risks either.

Just throwing this out there... I never had a Grower Flaccid... BUT I did increase my Flaccid from 4\" to 6\" using manual PE alone, no money or surgery needed.

A dude that\'s 8\" x 5.5\"... you are HUGE compared to the world around you and shouldn\'t risk surgery IMHO.

HA, I know it sounds funny but it\'s true, and I\'ve been in some jams because of it. I remember one time I wasn\'t paying attention and I pissed all over Balls and khakis and had to literally sit in the bathroom for 30 minutes until I felt safe enough to make a quick dodge to the nearest desk, get some paper to cover myself and make a dash to my office. I angled the fan downwards and let\'s just say I had an hour and half overtime that day.

I just heard that PMMA in there reduces retention of the Flaccid penis was how I got that. As far as safety goes, I\'m mainly interested in my Dick not falling off due to Necrosis or having to have my Cock removed after a severe allergic reaction to plexiglass. If I have bumps or nodules or pain i dont really care about that. and yeah I\'m not after huge Erect gains, sure a little more would be nice but the main thing is buffing up the Flaccid Cock. It\'s not like I have big or saggy Balls either it\'s just my Flaccid peen is so fucking small with a ton of folds and shit, looks like a turtle in it\'s shell and I\'m circumsized. It\'s really weird and annoying as fuck.

/e Thanks to this forum, I\'ve avoided the Elist implant, and after researching, it appears to me that PMMA is safest. FFT is not permanent, and the allo/Belladerm procedures appear to require intense invasive surgeries followed by a milieu of post-operative protocol I would be very afraid to mess something up on my end in the post-operative phase. I could be wrong but that\'s just what I\'m gathering from that.

It sounds a bit odd that you penis is so short you piss on your Balls, but if this is the case, then how is PMMA going to help?

Also PMMA had probably been used in the penis for longer than 6 years, maybe much longer, but that doesn\'t mean it\'s safe. Liquid silicone has been used for decades.

Another thing I\'d consider is that with such big starting stats, that is a lot of area to cover, so to get a decent gain, you will requite a hell of a lot of PMMA.

Personally I think you are far too big to consider a PE procedure. On top of that you haven\'t even had sex with the GF yet. It\'s pretty crazy to go for an enlargement before you\'ve even used you already considerable endowment on her. You might find she thinks your too big as it is.