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Juvaderm Voluma Questions (HA) 5 years 7 months ago #1295457299

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Seeing that we now have 6 persons who posted a progress report including myself and quite a few who will take part and post their progress soon as well there are still many lingering questions regarding Juvaderm Voluma as well as some information I feel we should summarize since not every is starting a progress thread but it would still be great to receive their feedback and results.

General questions (would be great if Dr Oates can give some feedback).
1. Realistically when should we go for a top up before it starts to diminish? Being realistic that the Penis is a different organ where it will be under more pressure and movement. Since most reports for people where it stayed in place for 2 years or longer was in the face.

2. How much top up would be enough every year to keep your gains? For example if I get 20 ML and I gained 1 Inch from this and I top up before it starts to dissolve how much ML would be enough? 6 ML? 10 ML? Another 20 ML?

3. Let\'s say I initially had 20 ML and lets say I top up with 10 ML before the originally 20 Ml dissolves do i then gain additionally or just gain initially and then lose after the original starts to dissolve. How much will we lose in that case giving a example?4. Does Juvaderm Voluma stimulate Collagen Growth, to what extend and for how long? In that case would it make sense to do light PE excercise to stimulate the growth even further. For example Clamping, bends, Uli\'s etc?

5. Is it is okay to Pump? What are the effects, will it strain the product and make it dissolve sooner?

6. What about Hanging. I have a vacuum Hanger that allows me to hang from the head and target the inner penis. Would this be okay? If I would gain length would parts of the penis become thinner?

7. What can be done extend the longevity of the filler? Is there things we should do more or less. Things we should eat? Supplements we could take? Lotion we could put on our member?

8. What are the thoughts on Clamping? Clamping mostly makes your penis expand from the inside unlike Pumping which targets the outside. I have no product in the base which also means I can not compress the filler with the clamp. This would perhaps be the best exercise to do after having a HA procedure done? Could the combination of HA and Clamping promote faster growth as some say Clamping after pumping helps you gain faster?


Questions for those who had the procedure done:

- State your starting Pre HA and current Post HA and how much product you received and what date you had your last procedure.

Flaccid Length
Flaccid Girth
Erect Length
Erect Girth (midshaft)

- Do you remember your Erect Girth midshaft measurements:
On the evening after you had the procedure done
the morning after the procedure
5 days after the procedure
10 days after procedure
30 days after procedure

- What was your recovery like? Did you have lots of swelling, bruising, etc?

- Do you have any issues with your Juvaderm Voluma filler?


That is it for now folks, would be great to gain a better understanding by compiling more information and gathering our thoughts!

Cheers,
Uncas

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Juvaderm Voluma Questions (HA) 5 years 7 months ago #1295457487

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I guess I will start!
My feedback:Though it is a longer lasting and firmer filler and I have read reports of people where it still did not diminish even after over 2 years which was mostly in the face. Then again I read some feedback from some doctors who did not want to change to Juvaderm Voluma due to price as they believe it will only work half as long as they advertise (so 12 months) and their other fillers that last 8 months are way cheaper and they don\'t believe it is worthwhile (for non penis procedures it is). If that is the case I guess we should top up 10 months or so after to be safe. This is just me speculating though but this would be important to know.

It would be great if we just had to top up once every two years but I highly doubt this. What I am really curious about is what would be a realistic time frame to top up and how much would we need to keep our current gains.

I am very interested in the Collagen growth through Temporarily fillers giving the benefit of giving you some permanent growth. I am not sure to what extend this is possible with JV but I hope there is some permanency. Hopefully combined with some PE exercises there are some good permanent gains to be made.

Talking about the PE Exercises I really thinking right now that Clamping could be the only good option since it aims for the inner penis and so will have less affect on dissolving the JV faster? I think pumping would be the worst for this as it mainly just targets the outer penis. I could be wrong of course but I am interested to find out.

My measurements:

Pre HA
Flaccid Length: varied 4.5 - 6.5 Inches
Flaccid Girth: average 5.3 Inches
Erect Length: 8.3 Inches
Erect Girth (midshaft): 6 Inches

Current post HA day 6, received 14 ML (1st visit):
Flaccid Length: 6.5 Inches
Flaccid Girth: 6.3 Inches
Erect Length: 7.8 Inches
Erect Girth (midshaft): 6.9 Inches

Measurements:
Day of procedure: 6.5 Inches
Day After: 7.1 Inches
Day 5: 6.9 Inches
Day 10: N/a
Day 30: N/a

- My recovery was very smooth, bruising and was gone within 16 hours and injection placed swelling within 48 hours

- No issues, no lumps, no pain currently on day 6.

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Juvaderm Voluma Questions (HA) 5 years 7 months ago #1295459015

4. Does Juvaderm Voluma stimulate Collagen Growth, to what extend and for how long?

No. Voluma is not a stimulatory filler. That would be Ellanse.

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Juvaderm Voluma Questions (HA) 5 years 7 months ago #1295463480

uncas wrote:
Hi Unas,

Just back from school holidays....


Seeing that we now have 6 persons who posted a progress report including myself and quite a few who will take part and post their progress soon as well there are still many lingering questions regarding Juvaderm Voluma as well as some information I feel we should summarize since not every is starting a progress thread but it would still be great to receive their feedback and results.

General questions (would be great if Dr Oates can give some feedback).
1. Realistically when should we go for a top up before it starts to diminish? Being realistic that the Penis is a different organ where it will be under more pressure and movement. Since most reports for people where it stayed in place for 2 years or longer was in the face.

We are waiting to see. We have had a few where the guys have thought Voluma diminished over a few months. They were professional athletes. We have had guys say it is gone but on measurement they still have their increase. I think if you start seeing a decrease then it is time, but predicting when is not yet possible.

2. How much top up would be enough every year to keep your gains? For example if I get 20 ML and I gained 1 Inch from this and I top up before it starts to dissolve how much ML would be enough? 6 ML? 10 ML? Another 20 ML?

The have topped up lots of guys - because they want to be even bigger. Maybe it took a while to save up more spare cash. Volume - well I think the more you put in the greater the increase again.

3. Let\'s say I initially had 20 ML and lets say I top up with 10 ML before the originally 20 Ml dissolves do i then gain additionally or just gain initially and then lose after the original starts to dissolve. How much will we lose in that case giving a example?

I think it just add 10ml of volume. The original is diminishing and the new 10 has added. If less than 10ml volume had gone then you would be bigger than the original increase.4. Does Juvaderm Voluma stimulate Collagen Growth, to what extend and for how long? In that case would it make sense to do light PE excercise to stimulate the growth even further. For example Clamping, bends, Uli\'s etc?

I have just written a post on this, see -
calibreclinic.com.au/is-there-any-perman...change-with-calibre/
They don\'t quantify how much in these studies.

5. Is it is okay to Pump? What are the effects, will it strain the product and make it dissolve sooner?

Great questions, I wish I had good science to give answers. I would not recommend pumping for at least 3 weeks. I don\'t know hat it will do - I doubt it will speed up the breakdown.


6. What about hanging. I have a vacuum hanger that allows me to hang from the head and target the inner penis. Would this be okay? If I would gain length would parts of the penis become thinner?

I like this better. I do think that regular hanging will produce benefits in a % of guys. But probably not everyone and you have to be diligent over a long period. You probably still need CALIBRE for girth.

7. What can be done extend the longevity of the filler? Is there things we should do more or less. Things we should eat? Supplements we could take? Lotion we could put on our member?

I don\'t think anything will make a difference - again not been studied (that I know of)

8. What are the thoughts on Clamping? Clamping mostly makes your penis expand from the inside unlike Pumping which targets the outside. I have no product in the base which also means I can not compress the filler with the clamp. This would perhaps be the best exercise to do after having a HA procedure done? Could the combination of HA and Clamping promote faster growth as some say clamping after pumping helps you gain faster?

I am not sure if this is better than stretching. If someone was not getting regular erections it would certainly help maintain size. Maybe it works great but I have not seen any study on it.

We are just about to start our second study. It is a retrospective to patients who have had the procedure so far. Then we will start the most important study which will be following guys prospectively - into the future and see how happy they are, what happens with size, top ups etc.

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Juvaderm Voluma Questions (HA) 5 years 7 months ago #1295463960

If i can weight in for penis exercice i dont think they are damageable for HA, maybe i would even state the opposite, i feel they make it more homogeneous. i started again to do some 1 week ago (i had an other 8 ml of HA injected last month snd will start a specific tread after my touch up ) and i feel the product is now less squishy ( but could be due to better Erection as more tension) and small bumps are less noticeable.this woukd mske sens as HA is not suppose to move once it settle in the connective tissues but it can still be a bit mould and spread around ( jelq is like massaging after all). Now those thingscould also be due tothe acide stiill being settling as it took more time to heal this procedure.

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Juvaderm Voluma Questions (HA) 5 years 7 months ago #1295490839

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Thank you Mat and doctor Oates,

That is very helpful and it is good to know there is some collagen growth happening.

I am on day 10 now and started already some Clamping a few days ago. So far that has led to good results evening some things out. I am not using much pressure and very short sets but I can only say it has been positive.

One more questions:

Do top ups have the affect that the previous HA received will stay longer and not breakdown as swift? Or will it still disappear as normal?

Looking forward to hear more about your research dr. Oates in the future


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Juvaderm Voluma Questions (HA) 5 years 7 months ago #1295537575

I had HA more than half a year ago. Wouldn\'t recommend it. Bad product - dimishes pretty fast and worst even: gets really squishy. You just don\'t want a penis that isn\'t hard. Worst money I\'ve ever spent. Maybe Ellanse is better I dont know.

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Juvaderm Voluma Questions (HA) 5 years 7 months ago #1295537928

I wasn\'t a fan either but I started with Mirza who fucked it up so badly I could never tell if I was a unique case, mine was squishy as well. I blew between $6-8,000 by the time I had mine dissolved. At least I was able to by the Hyaluronidase off Alibaba for $100 and dissolve it in my apartment.

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