TOPIC: Please help.......

Hi hunkydory.

\"1. your Dick can never be made longer when hard \"

Yes, with weights maybe that is true, have to work long and hard at it. But what I meant to say was just by snipping the ligament your Dick is not longer When Hard.

Apologies for the poor grammar in my posts I was never strong with writing, but I am going to go back and tidy up what I wrote.

\"1. your Dick can never be made longer when hard. \"

That\'s not true - I started at 6 and have been at 7.25 for almost 2 decades. Hanging works if you are consistent - and I am definitely not the only person on this board who has succeeded in gaining length.

I did have my ligs cut - and while I am not recommending it -, I never had any negative consequences - a longer Flaccid and about .25\" increase Erect, and the rest was Hanging and stretching.

BOBUSA :

1, of course money is a big factor. I\'m prepared to use up my savings if there was a guarantee of a good outcome, but it does appear to be a gamble with lig cut. I\'m gutted that it didn\'t work out for you, and hope you do eventually get things sorted.... Thanks for sharing & I\'m very grateful that you did.

2, agreed, Dr Elist!!!!

3, my research also confirms the safety of HA, obviously there is still risks, but it appears much less compared to the other options.

\"how much is permanent I dont know. dr kim said 1/3 than another time he said 1/2 , all i know is I went there 1st time in 2011 for 15mls then 2013 for 5 mls only so somethings grown, I prob need a couple more jabs on the way back home.

Even if nothings grew id rather go back every couple of years than have fat blocking my Dick up and oozing out. I have enough fat blocking the blood flow to my penis from my gutt already\"

----10 ml still left after 2 years, that\'s good to hear......

I can\'t comment on PMMA as I haven\'t done enough research on this, many on hear seem to be doing it though!

No probs MKR, I shall look on the their website again. Let us know if you get a response. I have a consultation at the beginning of March, so I will keep you updated.

Billy, I was debating stretching/ Hanging to enhance my length. I want to move pretty quickly with HA if I\'m satisfied with the consultation. Don\'t think I\'m going to get much time before if I decide to go ahead, not to sure if I can hang after HA. Or whether it\'s best to do before hand. Allowing more volume to go in.... We will see. Which extender is best or are they all on par?

Thanks to everyone.... I look forward to checking on this thread, it is helping massively to help me decide what I\'m going to do..

actually you could try stretching for lenght...in this board there is a report with progress pictures from someone who used an extender for a year

hey 007 thanks for the additional info. Bobusa too.

i haven\'t heard back from Androfill yet but will let you know when i do. i expect they are focused on trying to get people to come in for a consultation. anyway, they definitely keep their website updated because there is some new info on there today - 10 syringes maximum have to be spaced 2 weeks apart apparently. but i am wondering if they use the 2ml juvederm voluma syringes or the 1ml cos that would obviously make all the difference.
i guess if they respond to my email i will have the answer to that and other questions i asked...

i dunno about any permanent effect but as you probably saw on the Androfill site, they have changed their information on that now, while not saying it doesnt happen, they are kind of distancing themselves from saying it does. but i am not really bothered about that if it lasts a year or more even if its getting less

007jw wrote: I have been researching for some time which had been beneficial but at the same time I\'m really struggling as to which procedure I should go for. These are my considerations so far, I wonder if others could please advise and if possible speak of their own experiences: Dr Elist, penis implants, I think I have knocked this one off the list due to the bad feedback given. Roberto Viel, or London international andrology both using FFT technique for enhanceing Girth plus the susp lig cut to enhance length. Not to sure as to which surgeon is the better one or if on par? Also not to certain on the reliability both in terms of look and longevity? Body re-absorbing the fat, does the penis go back to its original size over a period of time? Androfill, Hyaluronic Acid injected into the penis shaft to increase Girth and some length. Not to sure how this compares to FFT. Whether it\'s better or not? Same as FFT, how long does it last? Does the penis go back to its original size? Appearance of penis once the HA is injected? PMMA is this a form of Hyaluronic Acid? Seems to be the favoured option for most on here? Can you get PMMA done in the UK? Thanks in advance.

No PMMA is OIL like your car uses

Why anyone vote me down. Dont like the truth?

There are some simple rules.

1. surgery alone will not make the hard Dick longer. Surgery to cut the sus lig should be banned because Dick just points straight down and sex is a pain.

2. if you want to get a wider Dick use the HA - 2 million people in US get it a year 2 million injections! but I agree not in Dick.

3. When you get HA you must see a pro. The technique of injecting is No 1 thing. He pushes the needle in and then only squirts the HA out as he\'s pulling back. If you see anyone but a Dick doctor for this then the odds of a problem go from 1 in 1million to 1 in say 10,000


Follow these instructions CAREFULLY .

1. Money is number 99/100 of what you have to consider. My Dick was snipped (sus lig) and I have a lifetime of frustration and no extra length, to fix any problem is impossible or 10 times more $. So don\'t try to save $1-2,000 by shopping around.

2. Do not see any doc that has done the penis sus lig chop. If a doc is doing surgery like that then they are not to be trusted with ANYTHING.

So, Dr V does he do this? Yes, so... dont see him.. he must know it\'s crap.

3. Don\'t put fat or implants in your Dick... does the doc offer this or anything else that looks gruesome? Simple if yes, don\'t go to him.

4. The hyal acid is there in your Dick already from birth, your dicks not going to fall off & its not going to hurt.
Its squiggy for a couple of days , then firms - my wife is a happy.

If you have a doctor or experienced person do it then no problem, its all about the injecting technique. 1 in millions chance of a problem, even then just inject something to dissolve it.

On HA

How much is permanent I dont know.
Dr kim said 1/3 than another time he said 1/2 - he is the world\'s expert he says.
All i know is I went there 1st time in 2011 for 15mls then 2013 for 5 mls only so somethings grown.

I prob need a couple more jabs on the way back home. I can\'t understand how people are getting 50 mls because I got 15ml first time and it was massive. The HA takes extra water so, its not like the MEGAFill. Thats why I do the HA you get more volume

Even if nothing grew ever perm, I would rather go back every couple of years than have fat blocking my Dick up and oozing out. I am slightly older and I know fat = impotence. I have enough fat blocking the blood flow to my penis from my gutt already. Im convinced the HA improved my impotence so its nearly gone, how Im not sure maybe the new tissue.

PMMA? you got to be nuts man.
NUTS . Im not even going to edit the text.

Dr kim website has a post on it, proper medical PMMA is from germany , research the company that makes it and call them I forget the name. and costs a fortune so no clinic would offers the good stuff. the HA costs the clinics about $300 each ml the medical PMMA $1000 per ml , who knows what they want to squirt in your Dick down in mexico, its cut with something for sure.

I looked at Androfill.com its the same stuff as in korea, thats what I use and I stand by it. Im in europe now so id consider it, but if I was in Cali id go to Korea or Phoenix. It\'s not relevant if they are expensive or not - whats relevant is who the doc is, how many hes done & are you living far away in case 1 in 1 million happens 3 days later.

I suppose if it\'s temporary and your not happy with the result then yes it\'s a good thing, however if you love the extra gain and it looks good then maybe not! Amdrofill claims 6 syringes at '2640, now it doesn\'t state the measurements!

I\'ve also read that some of the gain through HA can be permanent, but yet I\'m not certain if this is true or not!?
Maybe BOBUSA could add in here? - Thanks for your previous input, & comments noted.

I completely agree reference Dr Oudot, not a good indication. I was also considering London andrology international but will see how my consultation goes with Androfill.

It was '5000 with Dr Viel for FFT alone.

Are you then getting into the remit of PMA by adding other fillers?

Two things. Don\'t cut the suspensory ligament , I had it done and my Dick is actually shorter hard , but maybe 1cm longer when floppy. Any doctor who does this should and claims its penis lengthening should be struck off because its just lengthens the Dick when its soft so whats the point. scam, makes me angry

2. Go to Dr Kim in korea and have the HA, I have it once every couple of years. Anything else is nuts.

thanks for the reply and pm 007.
i have always been interested in HA first and foremost - partly because of the temporary nature. the thing is, if the maximum i can get in the UK is 10ml, well that hardly seems worth the bother and certainly not worth the cost. if someone was doing less pricey fillers - therefore more volume for the same price - i would be one of the first in the queue !

i emailed that french doctor - dr oudot - with some questions via his website but no reply so far after 4 days... i think perhaps either nobody checks the website messages, which wouldnt surprise me since the pricing on there is out of date compared to the prices he says on his youtube videos, or he cant be arsed answering questions. i dunno. but stuff like that does not fill me with confidence. if he doesnt bother to maintain his website or answer questions then how bothered is he about everything else? maybe i am too fixated on small details but i dont want anyone with a slapdash approach to life messing around with my Cock !i dont believe he is that busy or receiving hundreds of enquiries a day...

anyway, just out of interest to save me the time of waiting for an answer, how much did viel quote you recently for FFT only ? i\'m not interested in lig cut as, from what i can gather, any gains seem as likely from manual device stretching post op as from the op itself. and i dont want to be messing with ligaments and stuff anyway, just Girth.

thanks again for the response. i emailed Androfill in london yesterday for some more info on the \'filler with volumiser\' they mention once on the site. if that means they may increase the overall volume by adding another filler to the juvederm then i am interested ! i will post whatever i get in reply.

I have been researching for some time which had been beneficial but at the same time I\'m really struggling as to which procedure I should go for.

These are my considerations so far, I wonder if others could please advise and if possible speak of their own experiences:

Dr Elist, penis implants, I think I have knocked this one off the list due to the bad feedback given.

Roberto Viel, or London international andrology both using FFT technique for enhanceing Girth plus the susp lig cut to enhance length. Not to sure as to which surgeon is the better one or if on par? Also not to certain on the reliability both in terms of look and longevity? Body re-absorbing the fat, does the penis go back to its original size over a period of time?

Androfill, Hyaluronic Acid injected into the penis shaft to increase Girth and some length. Not to sure how this compares to FFT. Whether it\'s better or not? Same as FFT, how long does it last? Does the penis go back to its original size? Appearance of penis once the HA is injected?

PMMA is this a form of Hyaluronic Acid? Seems to be the favoured option for most on here? Can you get PMMA done in the UK?

Thanks in advance.