TOPIC: Dr. C

needtogrow4 wrote: I see a lot of posts referencing Dr. C. Who are they referring to, is it Dr. Dr. Camacho or Dr. Casavantes?
I am at 4.25-4.5 Girth and it affecting every aspect of my life. I have extreme sexual anxiety and it\'s really been holding me back in pursuing relationships. I\'m seriously considering surgery and have heard good anecdotes about a Dr. C. I sent Dr. Casavantes an email.

Another thing that concerns me, how do I know this website isn\'t just a marketing tool for these doctors? The results from Dr. C seem almost too good to be true. Sex within weeks, very natural looks, why does surgery have such a bad reputation if this doctor can perform miracles?

Thanks

You could try reading some of the threads. It doesn\'t sound as if you have.

Where have you heard these \"good anecdotes?\"

needtogrow4 wrote: Another thing that concerns me, how do I know this website isn\'t just a marketing tool for these doctors? The results from Dr. C seem almost too good to be true. Sex within weeks, very natural looks, why does surgery have such a bad reputation if this doctor can perform miracles?

Thanks

You need to read more progress reports. I don\'t want to knock Dr. C, but the results are inconsistent at best. Even with the same person having multiple rounds. It\'s a crapshoot. Maybe you\'ll gain a half-Inch, maybe an Inch, or maybe you\'ll gain nothing. Maybe it will look normal, maybe it will look uneven, maybe you\'ll have a big circ ring, maybe you\'ll have nodules and lumps, or maybe you\'ll have several problems at once.

I can tell you this, there are very few people that have had this procedure, and it looks completely normal. I can also tell you that if you\'re gay, the chances are the men you\'re with will notice. If you\'re straight, some women might notice, and you\'ll have to think of an excuse to tell them, so they don\'t suspect it\'s a STD.

This is your Dick. This is the only Dick you have. Read all the negative reports, and then tell me that this is some miracle, or a marketing site for the Dr. C. Tell me if you\'ll be okay with the chance that your Dick will never again look and feel \"normal\", or at worst that you might have to have additional procedures (surgery) to remove hard lumps, nodules, or even deglove your Dick to remove all of it?

Maybe ask why this procedure isn\'t more common? I mean, if it\'s some \"miracle\" than why doesn\'t every plastic surgeon offer it? Why are you traveling to Tijuana Mexico to do it? Would you elect to go to Tijuana to have a \"plastic surgeon\" give you a nose job or a face lift, yet you don\'t even think twice about having them touch your Dick?

Also, why is it that in the past year it seems as if there\'s a definite trend of the results going down, and the number of problems going up? I\'m not trying to tell you not to do it. It\'s up to you, but you should at least ask yourself these questions, and do some more research.

I just heard back and the email actually directed me to this website.....

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You need to read more progress reports. I don\'t want to knock Dr. C, but the results are inconsistent at best. Even with the same person having multiple rounds. It\'s a crapshoot. Maybe you\'ll gain a half-Inch, maybe an Inch, or maybe you\'ll gain nothing. Maybe it will look normal, maybe it will look uneven, maybe you\'ll have a big circ ring, maybe you\'ll have nodules and lumps, or maybe you\'ll have several problems at once.

I can tell you this, there are very few people that have had this procedure, and it looks completely normal. I can also tell you that if you\'re gay, the chances are the men you\'re with will notice. If you\'re straight, some women might notice, and you\'ll have to think of an excuse to tell them, so they don\'t suspect it\'s a STD.

This is your Dick. This is the only Dick you have. Read all the negative reports, and then tell me that this is some miracle, or a marketing site for the Dr. C. Tell me if you\'ll be okay with the chance that your Dick will never again look and feel \"normal\", or at worst that you might have to have additional procedures (surgery) to remove hard lumps, nodules, or even deglove your Dick to remove all of it?

Maybe ask why this procedure isn\'t more common? I mean, if it\'s some \"miracle\" than why doesn\'t every plastic surgeon offer it? Why are you traveling to Tijuana Mexico to do it? Would you elect to go to Tijuana to have a \"plastic surgeon\" give you a nose job or a face lift, yet you don\'t even think twice about having them touch your Dick?

Also, why is it that in the past year it seems as if there\'s a definite trend of the results going down, and the number of problems going up? I\'m not trying to tell you not to do it. It\'s up to you, but you should at least ask yourself these questions, and do some more research. [/QUOTE]

You had the procedure done SLK20003
How did it go?

This is definitely not a shill site for any doctor. It is the best resource possible for anyone considering Phalloplasty. I don\'t disagree with the above, but i can tell you that it\'s been over 2 years and I\'m very happy with mine. I\'m gay and no one has ever said anything about the look or feel of my Cock that is anything but complimentary. It has been a real positive in my life and I have no regrets. I\'m grateful to the guys that had the procedure and stayed around to guide others and I have decided to do the same. Who knows what will happen down the line, but I have only gratitude--no regrets. BUT, that\'s just my experience. I certainly couldn\'t guarantee it\'d be yours.

brunoxxx wrote: This is definitely not a shill site for any doctor. It is the best resource possible for anyone considering Phalloplasty. I don\'t disagree with the above, but i can tell you that it\'s been over 2 years and I\'m very happy with mine. I\'m gay and no one has ever said anything about the look or feel of my Cock that is anything but complimentary. It has been a real positive in my life and I have no regrets. I\'m grateful to the guys that had the procedure and stayed around to guide others and I have decided to do the same. Who knows what will happen down the line, but I have only gratitude--no regrets. BUT, that\'s just my experience. I certainly couldn\'t guarantee it\'d be yours.

With all due respect though, how many guys have ended up with a result like yours? Honestly? Maybe less than 10 out of hundreds? What about recently? Zero? One? Two? I\'m not trying to be an asshole, but seriously asking because to me all the ones that have had great outcomes were done in the past, and not recently. The problem with this site is that the progress reports with the best results are the ones that get the most views and responses, and are therefore pushed to the top, so I feel that new users think this is the norm. Besides the Elist\'s implant reports, Restorations progress report is the only one with a negative result(s) that has received a lot of attention.

Again, I\'m not saying \"don\'t do it\", but at least have some perspective, and do your research before proclaiming this is some kind of miracle. Why is it that all the new people seem to point to your results, and then assume that\'s going to be their outcome? Shouldn\'t there be hundreds of examples of great results, instead of just a handful? The majority of patients will have to get multiple procedures, and they\'ll experience some type of problems, and that\'s just a fact.

slk20003 wrote:

briceb wrote: I have to wonder how much of the information people are relying on is found here and how much did they receive directly from the doctor. If someone does not ask direct questions and get direct answers from their doctor, then they are relying on others, this board for example, for their answers. These people cannot then say \"the doctor hid XYZ from me.\" If a potential patient only relies on this or any other board for their research, they are doing themselves a disservice. Although this is a great board full of very knowledgeable members, it is not a substitute for direct doctor/patient conversation.

I don\'t know, I think the Dr.\'s tell you what you want to hear. As an example, I was initially considering the Elist implant procedure, and all I ever heard from his office was: \"We can help, just take a look at our before/after pictures, blah, blah, blah.\" There was no mention of any problems, etc.. Luckily I found this place, and heard the same thing when I contacted Dr. C: \"oh yeah, we can help, just take a look at the before/after pictures, blah, blah, blah.\"

I just so happened to have had my 1st procedure scheduled a week before they were getting LinneaSafe(?), and I asked them if I should wait because I heard it was better and more consistent than Metacrill. \"Oh no, they\'re the exact same, no need to delay your appt.\" Who knows if that\'s true or not. Then when I had issues after my initial procedure, I emailed them with my concerns, and after waiting several weeks for a response, I was told to schedule another appt, so they can try and correct the issues with a 2nd round.

Surely you were aware of the possibility of the complications you\'ve mentioned and the probable need for a second round.

In my opinion the problems we see usually aren\'t down to the forum, as much as the sheer determination of the guys that come here, to not only get something done, but to go as big as possible.

Let\'s be honest, most of the problems we see are due to guys being unable to resist asking for large quantities of high concentration PMMA. On top of that we see guys with perfectly good sized penises having an injectable filler and then being unhappy with how it looks or feels compared to their previous penis.

I\'ve been critical of Dr C for not sticking to his original \"enhancement\" as opposed to \"enlargement\" ideals, bowing to customer demands and doing virtually no patient profiling at all. But ultimately, most of the time, when I read of guys who are unhappy with their results, I do think that more than anything they\'ve only got themselves to blame. I used to offer so much more advise than I have done in the last year and it\'s because I\'ve learned that in the majority of cases, guys are going to rationalize things in a way that convinces them that having PMMA or whatever other procedure is a good idea.

I\'ve said so many times that the decision to have a penis enlargement procedure comes down to risk/reward analysis. Yet in the vast majority of cases, I am left scratching my head as to how they decided it was worth the risk. When things don\'t turn out as planned, though I fully understand and empathize with the anguish these guys feel, it\'s rare I think their complaint is something they shouldn\'t have been aware of going into the procedure or that I thought the guy \"needed\" anything done in the first place.

In my opinion, the only way a guy could have spent sufficient time reading the content on this forum and then go have a large quantity of 30% PMMA injected into their penis and not be aware there is a good chance of things not turning out as they hoped, is by being incredibly blinkered.

bigben: im going in to drN (prague) tomorrow to do round 2

briceb wrote: I have to wonder how much of the information people are relying on is found here and how much did they receive directly from the doctor. If someone does not ask direct questions and get direct answers from their doctor, then they are relying on others, this board for example, for their answers. These people cannot then say \"the doctor hid XYZ from me.\" If a potential patient only relies on this or any other board for their research, they are doing themselves a disservice. Although this is a great board full of very knowledgeable members, it is not a substitute for direct doctor/patient conversation.

I don\'t know, I think the Dr.\'s tell you what you want to hear. As an example, I was initially considering the Elist implant procedure, and all I ever heard from his office was: \"We can help, just take a look at our before/after pictures, blah, blah, blah.\" There was no mention of any problems, etc.. Luckily I found this place, and heard the same thing when I contacted Dr. C: \"oh yeah, we can help, just take a look at the before/after pictures, blah, blah, blah.\"

I just so happened to have had my 1st procedure scheduled a week before they were getting LinneaSafe(?), and I asked them if I should wait because I heard it was better and more consistent than Metacrill. \"Oh no, they\'re the exact same, no need to delay your appt.\" Who knows if that\'s true or not. Then when I had issues after my initial procedure, I emailed them with my concerns, and after waiting several weeks for a response, I was told to schedule another appt, so they can try and correct the issues with a 2nd round.

I have to wonder how much of the information people are relying on is found here and how much did they receive directly from the doctor. If someone does not ask direct questions and get direct answers from their doctor, then they are relying on others, this board for example, for their answers. These people cannot then say \"the doctor hid XYZ from me.\" If a potential patient only relies on this or any other board for their research, they are doing themselves a disservice. Although this is a great board full of very knowledgeable members, it is not a substitute for direct doctor/patient conversation.

The results have trended downward in quality over the past few years. This is counterintuitive since Dr C has gained more experience and Wade appears to spend considerably more time on patient aftercare. I can only speculate the PMMA has become more inconsistent from lot to lot. We had a period last year where very few were getting any reasonable gains. Now the hard nodules appear to be very common again. Also it appears as though Dr N is not longer performing the procedure which could also support the theory of potential issues with the PMMA quality control. It is unfortunate we do not have another PMMA provider so we could triangulate data.

The only thing that seems certain is that the patients 3+ years ago (ie before new plastic brand PMMA was discontinued) were on average encountering far fewer issues.

Do your research and weight the risks carefully. There are no do overs with PMMA. Once you move forward there is not turning back.

brunoxxx wrote: I believe this forum has value because everyone is free to speak of their experience. That\'s all I was doing. I was not endorsing or promoting. I\'ll think twice before posting again.

I agree 100%, and I hope I don\'t come across as implying you shouldn\'t be posting about your experience. The fact is that everyone should be achieving similar results as yours, and my problem is that I feel as if the results are getting worse. This procedure should be straight forward and simple, with virtually no complications. It\'s a great thing that can truly help a lot of men feel so much better about themselves.

I don\'t believe Dr. C is keeping things from his patients, but I feel that maybe they\'re not being entirely upfront about the issues with the product and/or procedure. Why do they keep changing the way they do things, and the amount they inject? It doesn\'t make sense unless the product keeps changing.

EDIT: I want to make it clear that I\'m not trying to dissuade anyone from doing this, and I feel that Dr C is trying to get the best results he can, but I DO want new people to understand the potential risks & complications that might arise. I also want people to know the results are inconsistent at best, & no one really knows the long term effects.

SLK,

You are right, the most popular posts always get the most attention and end up at the top. This is why it is important for people to read, read, read and not just skim the first couple of progress reports. There are all sorts of outcomes, potential pitfalls, etc. that someone can experience. Just seeing the most impressive results will give a skewed view of the real-life potential.

I have nothing but good things to say about the guys with Dr. C, and I am satisfied with my outcome, but guys really need to realize that the results that Guy A gets, good or bad, are not necessarily the results Guy B will experience.

Some people disappear when they have issues...not sure if they resolved or if they persisted. Or, people just disappear in general. It happens on plastic surgery forums in particular. I don\'t know what is behind that phenomenon...but there are a lot of people who have gone silent on their results.

I believe this forum has value because everyone is free to speak of their experience. That\'s all I was doing. I was not endorsing or promoting. I\'ll think twice before posting again.