TOPIC: Dr. Loria and the Platinum method worked for me. Photos inside and feel free to ask questions.

Pretty much none of DongJohnson\'s posting adds up:

- The photos are strange - nothing like those posted by pretty much all other members of this forum.

- The sales pitch way of describing his treatment, suggesting others contact Dr. L. who is the \"real deal\".

- Displaying a careless, reckless and foolish attitude in not knowing what Dr. L has injected into his body.

- Becomes agitated and highly defensive when scrutinised by senior members of PB, despite knowing and having access to all the material on this forum that clearly points out Dr. L\'s past unethical and immoral behaviour.

- Lies dormant as a member for a long time with zero posts and then suddenly writes a glowing review of one of the most despised Dr\'s on PB and despised for sound, logical reasons.

- Dubious reasons as to why he chose Dr. L in the first place, despite having access to all the material on this site which clearly paints Dr. L in a very poor light. \"Honestly I am impulsive and lucked out with Dr. L.\" WTF? It\'s highly abnormal for a person to approach something as serious as PE in such a flippant manner, and to not even post any questions about Dr. L before going ahead.

- \"My procedure worked phenomenally, zero negative effects, 1000000000% satisfied and 100000% real...\" I don\'t think I\'ve read a single thread on this forum in the progress reports where a member has had ZERO negative effects. Even those with great outcomes had issues to deal with and resolve. Dong\'s procedure comes off like its a perfect miracle.

Poor DongJohnson getting grilled by the PMMA Colosseum. As long as you are happy nothing else matters. But since you subjected yourself to your peers and we ask questions and not all the questions are clearly answered this is what you get. The salem towns people will cry witch every single time. It was extremely stupid and foolish to not question what exact materials he was injecting you with. The fact you trust someone just because they graduated from medical school is going to be a harsh awakening for you down the line if you develop complications. Since i\'m not your clinician, doctor, nurse I can call your actions stupid, because quite frankly this doc doesn\'t have a stellar rep. Again I wish you the best, i think it sucks that you didn\'t answer my questions, but with the hostile mob building up against you, as a fellow man you should move on. The drama is only going to get worse. Hell i love transparency, but we have to keep our cool. At all times. Even if we don\'t like someone. To a particular mod out there, your a mod keep a level head. Salud

-CHL

andydandy wrote: The only thing that worries me is that a full topic ban would also ban the horror stories and warnings against the \"doc\'s\" Tho, i see the point about not mention them at all as a way to reduce their influence, i hope and belive the horror stories and warnings helps people pick a safer way! Other then that.. Noone will miss dr. Loria and dr.elists advertisment..

If a ban is implemented, most (but probably not all) threads pertaining to Dr. L (and even Dr. E) that are currently up will remain. This will serve as a \"historical record\" if-you-will, of why such bans were implemented in the first place. However, these threads will be locked and not open for discussion. Furthermore, any new topics/posts concerning Dr. L (or Dr. E) will be subject to deletion.

The exception would be threads/posts regarding help, reconstruction, Repair, Revision, and counsel as it pertains to either physician or their procedures. An example is when a Dr. Elist patient is desperately seeking the advice of former patients on what to do about implant Removal. Or what a Dr. Loria patient might want to know about complication treatment. Etc etc etc. These posts exist for other doctors on this site, I can\'t see why former Dr. Elist or Dr. Loria patients can\'t seek out the same assistance.

I know Dr. Elist hasn\'t really been discussed much as of late, and we haven\'t seen any real shill suspects recently (unlike Dr. L), but if we are to ban the Dr. Loria content, the same reasoning would inevitably extend to Dr. Elist\'s content too.

Just know that these are musings and not policy implementation. No such thing has been put into effect but I may call for a Moderator vote in the near future and we will see.

The only thing that worries me is that a full topic ban would also ban the horror stories and warnings against the \"doc\'s\"

Tho, i see the point about not mention them at all as a way to reduce their influence, i hope and belive the horror stories and warnings helps people pick a safer way!

Other then that.. Noone will miss dr. Loria and dr.elists advertisment..

@dongjohnson

Your comments only continue to reaffirm my suions. You call it a witch hunt despite the fact we\'ve dealt with shills, fake accounts, and fake pictures. Why are you so surprised by this type of scrutiny if you know we\'ve had to deal with this kind of thing? We just found out a member touting the same procedure you had used fake photos. Wouldn\'t it be natural for us to be very skeptical of your posts?

And your allegations of association with Dr. C, as silly as it is, was the same topic of a visceral PM sent to me by a busted shill account a while back, pretty much making the same baseless accusations. Coincidence? Not that I even intend on defending this forum, but our inception was well before PMMA was relevant. Check out Phalloplasty.proboards.com if you want to look even further back.

And I wasn\'t wrong about your inability to help yourself...you just had to insert another pitch... \"Call him.\" This is classic shill language, no normal member is like \"Oh my God my FFT with Dr. Giunta was amazing, give him a call you wont regret it!,\" or \"not sure why all the negative reports but Dr. Elist is the real deal, just call him yourself and you\'ll see.\" Not saying you are a shill, but you sure do sound like one. Nothing normal about a 5-month inactive Loria member coming alive just when another member gets busted with shilling. Actually, you are one of two accounts that popped up coincidentally around the same time this shill was busted. Again, are you so surprised by the scrutiny knowing all this?

Honestly people, who are we kidding here? I\'ve been through this charade one too many times before, if we\'ve done anything to earn your trust, trust me on this one. This guy doesn\'t add up. And if I\'m wrong, he still doesn\'t add up. I\'m serious, he\'s flat out admitted to being completely okay with having a mystery cocktail injected into his penis. So either we\'re dealing with a shill or we dealing with a guy who likes to use weird black bordering around all his photos.


@Bigben & those who are interested in knowing about potential topic bans:

What\'s on the forum isn\'t everything. Oh boy, not even the half of it. We just didn\'t feel the need to play these kind of \"games\" with Dr. L publicly, back during the peak of those cat & mouse games. Suffice it to say there is enough information to have already justified a permanent ban on new Dr. Loria posts (and even Dr. Elist for that matter).

But the reason it has not happened was because of a founding principle of this forum: preventing censorship. The reason (among a few) this forum was created was due to the censorship of Elist-critical threads at MyNewSize (dot com, now defunct). That said, another founding principle of this forum was the prevention of misinformation, which also stemmed from the shilling and deception at MyNewSize.

What is happening now with these recent shilling attempts is the realization that if this continues, PhalloBoards will be at a crossroads: is it justified to ban content if it more often proliferates misinformation than it does educate, even if that ban amounts to some form of content censorship? To many of you, you might think, \"why such a big deal?\" or \"why so serious?\" Well, try finding any other legitimate source of information on this website\'s topic and then you\'ll begin to understand why this site\'s integrity has a lot of importance... we value our cocks (maybe obsessively), and many of us have pressing reasons to enlarge it. It\'s crucial that the source we obtain penis enlargement information from isn\'t cheap, misleading, biased, or commercial in any way. And this explains why I haven\'t made an executive decision on the matter (yet).

Now, however, things are starting to shift toward implementation of a forum-wide ban. For two reasons really. Firstly, the notion that this physician can profit through a forum he\'s deliberately disrespected has rubbed us the wrong way. This is in light of the fact that I\'ve started to collect donations because I will no longer allocate personal finances to fund this forum. Now you may think this is a personal/emotional response, but so what if it is? This is not a full-time endeavor for me, but I\'m proud of the number of people this forum has helped (including the many who decided against Phalloplasty) and am not entirely fond of a few entities who wish to taint the content here with quackery & deception.

Secondly, the fact that it\'s happening again. We had a peak of Dr. L shilling a while ago and it died down. We\'d have some things occasionally pop up but what we\'re seeing now looks like another full-blown shill barrage. It\'s like the \"straw that broke the camels back,\" we\'re far too busy in our personal lives to have to constantly investigate the shamelessness of some of these doctors. Will it end?

On a last note, and to touch on what Hoddle\'s been saying, exposure alone is plenty of advertisement for Dr. Loria. When MyNewSize was up & running, many men saw the red flags but were so allured by the idea of a big penis that they were willing to look the other way. Ask Messageman, he and others can relate. Had there been a PhalloBoards during those days, maybe, just maybe, a few more men could have been spared a horrific life experience. Is that PhalloBoard\'s responsibility? To protect its readership from unscrupulous doctors who wish to profit on our insecurities? Or should we just vanish and let this forum become inundated with spam, magic cocktails and Penis Pills? Where do we draw the line?

I wrote that all out so that many of you will now know our reasoning behind any major policy changes, should they happen.

I\'ve never doubted your results...
I just am wondering why you waited until 4 months after you joined this site to start hard selling Dr. LORIA. You don\'t care whether he is actually a real doctor or feel the need to conclusively know what is in your penis, but you do feel need to post your results and seem eager for your fellow members to follow suit.
And regarding the steller results...If you were to inject crisco oil into your Dick, you could get the same beautifull results. The problem is a few years down the road....
On this board, Dr. Loria is a known shister, who has employed numerous shills, not only on this site but others...Do yourself a favor and type in \"Dr. Loria\" on this site and spend about two hours reading up on him....And if afterward you can sleep well at night, I would be very surprised.

Check out PE Gym... They\'ve had their share of Loria headaches too.

This isn\'t some conspiracy against Dr. Loria....Follow the threads of his shills (on this site and other PE sites) and you will easily see that this man engages in dubious practices....

I am against censorship too, but the amount of time us unpaid moderators have to spend defending this site from Dr. Loria shenanigans is ridiculous.

It would be prudent not to ban Dr Loria outcome discussion on the forum. Unfortunately, if guys start to get the impression he is being censored it may have unintended consequences.

There was some reluctance to let Dane post about Dr Elist a while ago. Initially he had a good outcome, and understandably people were upset by his progress report. However as time passed the truth was revealed as his situation deteriorated and ultimately it served as a good example of why the procedure is flawed and dangerous.

I would encourage you to treat this situation with the same transparency assuming the pics are legit. I would like to see how this case ultimately turns out. The bottom line is guys will not get the procedure done if they understand the true risk.

However if people get the impression discussion of Dr Loria is forbidden because of spamming and personal/emotional reaction from the mods, in some cases this will not be strong enough evidence to prevent them from acting impulsively in the quest for Girth.

I know this is a highly charged topic, but I felt it was necessary to speak up.

Dong, maybe a minor thing, but could I ask why every photo has been edited with black cropping added and also why nearly every pic is a different size? Just never seen that in anyone\'s threads on here, and curious why that was done.

WTF are you serious guys? PHOTOSHOPPED? Really? This is a witch hunt it seems for anyone who had the procedure from Dr. L. I am NOT bullshitting ANYONE here and I am actually pretty offended now by the way you have treated me simply for sharing my experience. PM me. I can talk to you over the phone and give you my real name. You can research me and see I have ZERO affiliation with Dr. L and hell I\'ll show you my Dick using whatever method you want - text, webcam, carrier pigeon.. If you are in or near San Jose California hit me up and we can put the skepticism to rest. Take it or leave it, my procedure worked phenomenally, zero negative effects, 1000000000% satisfied and 100000% real including EVERY PHOTO there. Unbelievable... This is quite odd to tell you the truth and I\'m wondering if this board has an affiliation with Dr. C somehow... Perhaps I shall dig into the domain registry etc and see if there are any ties.. Really really unfortunate that you would deny these readers the opportunity to hear my experience and discredit me as a person simply because I used Dr. L. And WHO GIVES A FLYING F if DR L was a hair specialist or Hand specialist or a proctologist for that matter - he seems to have learned what he is doing somewhere and he is damn good at it. I\'m sure if I had asked he would tell me exactly what was going in my Dick but truth is at the time I didn\'t really care after seeing sample work and talking to him personally.
I\'m not hard selling shit, talking to someone is the most effective way to get something settled and get your facts from the source - not from he said she said. Call him - ask away I\'m sure he\'d be happy to help.

Anyone who wants proof PM me and I\'ll send you my Mobile #

Aaron aka DongJohnson

Restoration wrote: Just for the record, I\'m equally dubious of all this (particularly the registration date vs post date) - but I just figured I\'d ask my questions for my own curiosity (whether or not it was true - I\'m not going to Loria anyway - just curious what he\'d say). I haven\'t had to put up with whatever has happened behind the scenes as a mod, so I didn\'t realize there was that much of a headache (impersonating you is fucked up to say the least)... maybe I should have just ignored it. Anyway, the more Loria\'s name is mentioned in combination w/ skepticism and lack of positive results, the more google is going to pick that up first. This board has a lot of internal links which usually gets google\'s attention - i\'m surprised how many searches lead right here.

I can\'t tell if his last Dick pic is photoshopped...where does it look photoshopped? If you go into photoshop and select \"trace contour\" it\'s often a way to easily see where people have moved pixels around.

But that isn\'t necessarily a bad things for Loria. It\'s not hard to inject silicone into the penis and get a nice looking result. It\'s been on the underground for years. All he needs is a couple of nice looking results posted on here and people will become interested. The consequences are more than likely longer down the road, yet we\'ve already got \"patients\" claiming total success, as if they thought the risks came in the first few weeks or months. Guys are amazingly prepared to take risks to get a bigger penis. So the site of a couple of aesthetically pleasing looking results will be all it takes.

Given the trouble he\'s caused I personally can\'t stand the thought of him gaining one patient as a result of this forum and I\'d go as far as to say I resent it when people are interested in hearing about his procedure. It\'s not just about concerns with the procedure he offers, it\'s a personal issue we have with Loria. I think our members should respect that if we decide to ban Loria posts. Yes, we don\'t know what he\'s injecting and suspect it to be Silikon1000. But most of all, he\'s been a total jerk to this forum and thus we don\'t even want him discussed here. That\'s why I don\'t care if dongjohnson is a real patient or not. Even if he\'s real, I personally still would resent any discourse with the guy, as he represents someone who has caused no end of hassle for us.

So while I understand the points both you and Mustang make, from our point of view (SO and the Mods), I think we\'d (or at least I would, can\'t speak for the others) feel far better by just not having to deal with any discussion of that man or his \"work.\" I don\'t want to take the risk of it convincing one person to go to Loria. Not due to concerns over their health, as ultimately that isn\'t my problem, but due to concerns that Loria would financially benefit.

Just for the record, I\'m equally dubious of all this (particularly the registration date vs post date) - but I just figured I\'d ask my questions for my own curiosity (whether or not it was true - I\'m not going to Loria anyway - just curious what he\'d say). I haven\'t had to put up with whatever has happened behind the scenes as a mod, so I didn\'t realize there was that much of a headache (impersonating you is fucked up to say the least)... maybe I should have just ignored it. Anyway, the more Loria\'s name is mentioned in combination w/ skepticism and lack of positive results, the more google is going to pick that up first. This board has a lot of internal links which usually gets google\'s attention - i\'m surprised how many searches lead right here.

I can\'t tell if his last Dick pic is photoshopped...where does it look photoshopped? If you go into photoshop and select \"trace contour\" it\'s often a way to easily see where people have moved pixels around.

While this video is about hair transplantation, it still goes to show that \"frauds, scams, illegal and unethical activities\" can infiltrate any medical field... told by the guy who knows exactly what he\'s talking about!

dongjohnson wrote: Honestly I am impulsive and lucked out with Dr. L. He assured me the material has been used for a long time in the face/lips and hands and was approved for that purpose and was permanent. He said it will not diminish. That being said since the procedure my Girth went from 5 to 6.5 immediately after while material was still in. I had the bandage mishap and thought inscrewed myself.. It lost a good portion. But it quickly plateaued and i noticed when i was soft i had this extra tissue layer forming and bam here we are with an additional 3/4 of an Inch that isnt going anywhere. Gets hard as a rock when Erect and i have all sensation left.. Like i said before i dont know why but it actually feels better than before. I was worried about the glans at first. Since it had an obvious 2 rows of injections on it with what looks like a missed shot on one side (lol) . But just like the doc said it backfilled with collagen and is smoothing out nicely and retaining the size. I dont know how much more ill be posting here folks.. My goal was to let you know dr loria was a success for me.. I am not affiliated or paid or compensated in any form to promote this guy as a doctor. I am doing this only because it worked for me and ive read a lot of horror stories and see horrific photos. I am beyond satisfied and i am making one final trip this month if his schedule permits. I will post new results after 2nd treatment and i may check here every once in a while to read aome more comments on how im some fictitious a hole, or better yet im dr L himself snickering away while taunting the PhalloBoards to dupe yet another person into his services.. Muahaha. Not. Im a real guy and like guy stuff like most of you. i love fast cars (m3), my penis (probably too much), firearms (my smitty wesson 500), sticking up for the little guy and setting records straight if i believe something is bullshit. I call bullshit on people bad mouthing loria. Give his office a call if you want he was always availalble to answer my questions. That last line may have sounded like a pitch but i could care less its simply the truth and easiest way to cut through the bs.. Ps he charged me 8k for glans and shaft and flew his assistant to the bay area to rewrap my manhood. Best fucking 8000 i ever spent. Dong Johnson (stepping off the soap box and putting my Dick away for the night folks)

I really don\'t know of any other progress report (minus Dr. Elist progress reports) where the member insisted the reader to call or to learn more. You just can\'t help yourself. You have to insert the pitch somewhere in that word block of a post. Even the name of the thread and the original post reads like a big sales pitch. The only other posts that have this tone were confirmed shill threads related to either Dr. Elist or Dr. Loria. Just sayin...

And as Messageman pointed out...you wait until now to talk about your amazing penis story when you\'ve been registered since July? Did you get a text or phone alert that some shill was busted and you had to come to the rescue? What are the odds that one shill gets busted and then a bunch of inactive Loria accounts get activated? Hmm..

None of these photos prove anything. And is the 3rd picture in the original post photoshopped? Or are my eyes playing tricks on me? lol!

Anyways, I am more and more starting to agree with Hoddle\'s push to have Dr. L content banned period. He\'s gone overboard so many times (including impersonating me at a separate PE forum), and employs accounts that post fake pictures. The PLATINUM procedure brings nothing new, innovative, or groundbreaking to Phalloplasty, and if anything, is a dangerous route to take (i.e. unknown filler cocktail). And all this to gain visibility and business off of a forum he\'s willing to disrespect time and time again?

Had he came here originally, with clear intentions, explained his new procedure and that he was looking for volunteers, it might have worked. He could have explained his filler, ingredients and all. Then surely some of our current members (who can obviously be vouched for) could relay to us all the information about whether or not it was something to look into. But even had this happened, Dr. L simply lacks the expertise & experience, and his filler cocktail simply lacks the history to be deemed ultimately safe for Phalloplasty application. BUT, had he at least tried being transparent, he would at the very least have gotten a warm reception. Instead we have this bullshit.

Anyways, the Moderators are currently discussing whether or not to ban all future Dr. Loria content on grounds that it promotes misinformation. For anyone who has an objection, please first read all the previous Loria related threads. If that isn\'t enough to convince you action is needed, then just remember you aren\'t volunteering to keep a non-commercial forum free of shenanigans so that men don\'t lose their penis to the highest bidder.

Honestly I am impulsive and lucked out with Dr. L. He assured me the material has been used for a long time in the face/lips and hands and was approved for that purpose and was permanent. He said it will not diminish. That being said since the procedure my Girth went from 5 to 6.5 immediately after while material was still in. I had the bandage mishap and thought inscrewed myself.. It lost a good portion. But it quickly plateaued and i noticed when i was soft i had this extra tissue layer forming and bam here we are with an additional 3/4 of an Inch that isnt going anywhere. Gets hard as a rock when Erect and i have all sensation left.. Like i said before i dont know why but it actually feels better than before. I was worried about the glans at first. Since it had an obvious 2 rows of injections on it with what looks like a missed shot on one side (lol) . But just like the doc said it backfilled with collagen and is smoothing out nicely and retaining the size. I dont know how much more ill be posting here folks.. My goal was to let you know dr loria was a success for me.. I am not affiliated or paid or compensated in any form to promote this guy as a doctor. I am doing this only because it worked for me and ive read a lot of horror stories and see horrific photos. I am beyond satisfied and i am making one final trip this month if his schedule permits. I will post new results after 2nd treatment and i may check here every once in a while to read aome more comments on how im some fictitious a hole, or better yet im dr L himself snickering away while taunting the PhalloBoards to dupe yet another person into his services.. Muahaha. Not. Im a real guy and like guy stuff like most of you. i love fast cars (m3), my penis (probably too much), firearms (my smitty wesson 500), sticking up for the little guy and setting records straight if i believe something is bullshit. I call bullshit on people bad mouthing loria. Give his office a call if you want he was always availalble to answer my questions. That last line may have sounded like a pitch but i could care less its simply the truth and easiest way to cut through the bs..

Ps he charged me 8k for glans and shaft and flew his assistant to the bay area to rewrap my manhood. Best fucking 8000 i ever spent.

Dong Johnson (stepping off the soap box and putting my Dick away for the night folks)