I feel really sad for the poor men who paid thousands to improve themselves, only to have someone ruin their lives and be protected by the law. And sadly, these doctors have seen the major damage they have caused ( part of pubic bone being removed) and smile at new potential patients, telling them it\'s perfectly safe. It\'s obvious that it\'s done for the large amount of money. It\'s pure evil!!!
I don\'t trust the FDA anymore, cause of a lot of their motives seem to be motivated by money and not safety. A lot of people assume cause a treatment is not in the U.S.A approved by the FDA, it is not safe. Luckily, we live in a time where patients can share their views on procedures and doctors.
ilovetofu wrote: Any comments on these horror stories of PMMA. I am interested in the procedure but I\'m still too wary of those who have had terrible complications and disastrous results. How to establish the authenticity of these reviews???
Well the most recent claims to have had the procedure in 2009. How would he have heard of Dr C then I don\'t know. Dr C was originally treating HIV patients, so I don\'t think he even offered PE in 2009. I\'m not even sure he was in private practice back then. Also the fact he calls Dr Casavantes \"Dr C,\" tells you he reads this forum. In other words it\'s either Loria or Elist.
The guy called \"martin1\" claims to have been banned from our forum, which is total lie. He also claims \"ulcers\" which we\'ve never come across. He also describes Dr C as a \"sociapath\" which is what we\'ve decsribed Elist as.
Any comments on these horror stories of PMMA. I am interested in the procedure but I\'m still too wary of those who have had terrible complications and disastrous results. How to establish the authenticity of these reviews???
tom kat wrote: I think i read a post in another thread where someone said that Dr C is thinking of opening a new clinic in Bahamas where he will offer the linnea safe.
Can i ask a question: what is the benefits of linnea safe over the metacrill? I think i read somewhere else a while ago but I can\'t find where right now.
There are no substantiated benefits between the two. Not saying there isn\'t a difference in a quality, just no hard evidence suggesting you\'ll have dramatically better results with one product over the other, or any evidence suggesting one is safer than the other.
If & when it is reintroduced we could see a better comparison. For those interested in doing some additional research, a lot of the first and second wave of PMMA pioneers on this site received New Plastic. Linnea Safe is essentially a re-branding of New Plastic, so you can actually read about some results & experiences if you sort threads based on dates (2011-ish). Phalloplasty.proboards.com also should contain some of that info.
Yeah, if Dr. salas could offer Linnea Safe, that would be great...and finding out the pricing would be interesting. I wonder, also, how much is artefill is sold for in Mexico? Artefill 20% PMMA in collagen - with extremely well-tested & regulated formula (all particles 20-60 and spherical, evenly distributed). You\'d have to get the allergy test at home before getting a penis full of artefill though! I\'m guessing it would be over $8000 for a session with artefill, so it\'s probably not practical.
On my 3rd session with Dr C, I had discussed the idea of injecting PMMA while in the Erect state. In my case, I have a slight peyronies curvature thax the the brilliant work of the best PE dr in the world, elist! Prior to the session, I had taken a cialas pill and I forced a semi Erection to see if the penile skin would perhaps force the PMMA where it was not intended to go. Sure enough, The left side of the skin was tighter than the right side. If Dr C had injected PMMA while in this state, I was sure it would have caused PMMA to go to the loose side, the right side and it would not look right. I went back to the bathroom and poured cold water on the penis to shrink it back. It worked and after about 30 min or so we started the procedure as usual. I never mentioned this in my previous reports since I did not think it was important enough.
So, in my case I think injecting PMMA while Erect would have been disastrous. Now, if one has a perfectly straight shaft and the penile skin is uniformly pliable all around, then may be Erect injection would give same or better results....Just a guess on my part.
I also noticed in the above video that the Dr was using one entry point (and from the glans area) and he was injecting whatever material in a very quick manner. I know Dr C uses many entry points (at the base and near the glans, as needed) and he inject very slowly and carefully.
anyway, I wanted to share with you my experience.
I repeat that it would be nice to have other quality Dr\'s perform PMMA injection in the penis so we patients have options...time will tell...So far I would trust only DR C, but I am also open to listen, wait and see what others have to offer.
He is allowed to participate in a interview format if it\'s arranged with the admin. But let\'s be honest, he\'s no PMMA expert, so I\'m not sure it\'s worth it.
I think the Erect injection is more of a marketing thing than anything else. We\'ve seen that PMMA changes in the recovery period and ultimately there is little to no difference between injecting when Erect and when stretched. I don\'t think it will have the impact they want and people will still go to Dr C, as he\'s trusted and he\'s way more experienced.
Dan and Dr C-M have realized that if they want to get patients, they need to offer something different to what Dr C offers. I just think they\'ve taken the wrong angle. When you next speak to Dan, tell him that by far the best thing he could do is to offer Linnea Safe. I\'m not sure if that is even possible, as otherwise I think Dr C would still offer it, but he should certainly look into it. Failing that they need to do something more simplistic, like under cut Dr C.
Personally, I think it\'s good that there is another Dr offering PMMA. Competition can only be a good thing for the patients in my opinion. But at the moment, there is no reason to go to Dr C-M, as I just don\'t think people will buy into to Erect penis thing, as common sense tells us, it wont make a difference. Potential patients will want to believe that are getting a better product for the same price or the same product for a cheaper price. At the moment it seems like Dr C-M is charging and extra $300 for an Erection that will subside after 3 hours, yet we know the product doesn\'t set for days and changes for weeks. I think everyone would rather keep the extra $300 and go to the much more experienced Dr C.
Basically, what I\'m saying is that if you speak to Dan, tell him to give us (I\'m really considering PMMA at the moment) a good reason to consider going to Phallocare, as at the moment there isn\'t one. If they can\'t get Linnea Safe, they should take the price down to $2000, for at least 6 months, in order to establish themselves. Dr C originally charged $1500. He built his business and reputation among our members before upping the price. If there isn\'t an obvious reason to go to Dr C-M, then I can\'t see them establishing themselves. If they gave our readers a good reason to give them a try and they delivered good results, then their business would flourish for years to come. But $2800, for an unknown Dr, isn\'t going to fly in my opinion, Erection injection or not.
I\'m not sure about whether or not it was a forum member or about the specific products being used. I just posted it here as I understand Dan and others working for a clinic aren\'t allowed to post. Dan did mention that he\'d be more than willing to participate in the dialog here and answer questions if there was a way to do so within the context of the forum rules so you might want to shoot him an email about that stuff if you think it would be beneficial to the discussion.
I\'m too scared to have any further Phalloplasty as I consider myself VERY lucky to have a normal looking Dick after everything I went through back in 2005 so I haven\'t really kept up to date with all of the PMMA news and information as I don\'t want to tempt myself into having anything done.
Looks good so far. It would be great to see a progression of the results in the next few weeks. It is also a good idea to mention the PMMA name that was used, the Dr\'s name and the cost of this procedure. I think it is good to have another Dr perform the PMMA procedure and to see a track record of him as we have seen through with Dr Casaventes. honest and transparent competition is good for every one...I hope Dan Salas will follow up with credible videos.
But ideally we need to see evidence that it makes a difference, so we\'ll have to wait to see some results a couple of months post procedure. Did you get any forum volunteers for the free PMMA offer?
If Dan and Dr C-M wanted a really marketing coo, I personally think that if they could offer Linnea Safe, it would do more to attract patients than the Erect procedure. Ultimately we\'ve see enough of PMMA to know that how it looks in the 24 hours post op, don\'t mean that much. So I\'m not sure we\'ll actually see any real benefit if the procedure is done Erect as so much changes in the weeks post procedure. But due to some concerns expressed with Metacrill in recent months, offering New Plastic would be a real coo.